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Subject: So are you going to leave poser for V5, Gen ?

722 opened this issue on Aug 01, 2011 · 272 posts
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prixat ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 2:16 PM

To those testing the new Poser, did DAZ's new DSF format make it into the program?

regards
prixat

hornet3d ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 2:32 PM

Quote - To those testing the new Poser, did DAZ's new DSF format make it into the program?

 

I think you might have to ask that on the RNDA site.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 2:37 PM

Quote - To those testing the new Poser, did DAZ's new DSF format make it into the program?

You can ask, but I highly doubt it.

Laurie


prixat ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 2:48 PM

Thanks, I found the appropriate thread over at RDNA.

The answer is no.

It may be left to 3rd party translators.

I got the impression that DAZ were expecting at least an importer from SM, having made hints (maybe even statements) about supplying SM with the genesis/DSF format months ago.

regards
prixat

vholf ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 3:02 PM

"Interface difficulty" is highly subjective and IMO should not be brought up when comparing DS and Poser, because even though I use Poser as my main app, I find DS very intuitive and better organized. I do heavily modify the interface though, I can agree the initial layout is quite cluttered, but the option to customize it is there.

Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 3:09 PM

Quote - Thanks, I found the appropriate thread over at RDNA.

The answer is no.

It may be left to 3rd party translators.

I got the impression that DAZ were expecting at least an importer from SM, having made hints (maybe even statements) about supplying SM with the genesis/DSF format months ago.

I get the impression by the time Daz supplied that information, SM already were very advanced in their own weight mapping coding....


flibbits ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:22 PM

"And who gives a rat's butt?"

 

It's not pointed out to harp.  It's pointed out because sometimes it makes posts hard to read.

Use of 's for plurals and it's for its (possessive) is all over the Internet, and makes things hard to read.

When someone writes "DAZ made Genesis only work in it's program" there is confusion.  "DAZ made Genesis work in it is program?  Huh?  It is what?"

The same for plural words written with 's.  "These program's don't all have an easy to learn interface."  There is confusion "these program's what...what thing that is part of the program doesn't have an easy interface."

It slows down reading, creates confusion, and pointing it out may let someone know it's a mistake so they write more clearly next time.


vholf ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:32 PM · edited Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:34 PM

I read pass those errors just fine, it's all about context. But then again, I'm not a native english speaker like I said, I guess others might find it difficult.

Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:32 PM

and Flibbits, as pointed out, english is not everyone's language.

deal with it ok? there's not much else you can do about it.. telling people off in a forum is going to do bupka's.


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:39 PM · edited Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:39 PM

I've very rarely had a problem getting the gist of a thread, no matter who wrote it or what language they speak. ;)

Anyway, back on topic. To repeat myself, no. I'm gonna buy Poser 2012 and get on with my life. LOL

Laurie


Dale B ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 4:54 PM

Vis a vis the subject line.....

 

 NO.

 

 DS4 might earn a place in the pipeline, but the new tools and toys and options they present for all that past figure content is more than enough reason to stay with Poser 2012.

 Of course if someone can find a way to create more time, that would be lovely.....

bevans84 ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 5:51 PM · edited Sun, 14 August 2011 at 5:57 PM

Quote - I got the impression that DAZ were expecting at least an importer from SM, having made hints (maybe even statements) about supplying SM with the genesis/DSF format months ago.

I believe there was a mention at RDNA about Daz having the Poser SDK.

As a software company, I believe Daz makes very nice 3d figures, as far as their software, not so much.
Not impressed with what they've done with Carrara and Hex, and I've never had any version of Studio loaded on my system for longer than a week. If Genesis isn't fully functional in Poser, then I'll pass.


flibbits ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 5:58 PM

"and Flibbits, as pointed out, english is not everyone's language.
deal with it ok?"

Then it's a good thing to mention to them when they make a mistake.  That's how they learn to write English.

Don't read an insult into a correction.


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2011 at 6:51 PM

no, I wasn't reading an insult at all... but it's so good they have you to teach them. I bet they'll learn lots....


R_Hatch ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:27 AM · edited Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:28 AM

Quote - Not one of those images was rendered in Daz Studio - all of the images say he used Reality. Which means rendered in LuxRender.

Back on topic, I stand corrected (thanks, BB). I would be interested in seeing some of DAZ|Studio's best artists' work, but I don't have time to go hunting for it right now. I know what kind of results I can get from Poser, and I'll get even better results with the new material nodes.

As an attempt to preempt more defensiveness, I would like to point out that there are two features from DAZ|Studio 4 that I'm REALLY happy to see have made their way to Poser 9/Pro 2012: frame selected and orbit selected. Now if we could convince SM to also allow for easier hotkey customization (an area where DAZ|Studio sails right past Poser), I'd be happier than a monkey at a banana buffet :)

SnowSultan ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:37 AM · edited Mon, 15 August 2011 at 12:42 AM

"I would be interested in seeing some of DAZ|Studio's best artists' work"

 

All of the promo images by Joelegecko at DAZ are done in DAZ Studio, and Dreamlight is also very experienced with DAZ Studio animation and lighting. I consider them to be two of the best DAZ Studio artists.

I work exclusively in Studio too, although most of my recent works have been simple tests. You can still get an idea of my more 'serious' stuff in my gallery here if you feel like it.   :)

 

SnowS

my DeviantArt page: http://snowsultan.deviantart.com/

 

I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.

Cimaira ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2011 at 2:59 PM

Well, I might as well throw in a curve ball.... I'll be switching TO Poser from Daz. I feel I got burned with DS3A, they never fixed all the bugs, still twitches and flashes on my machine. So I'm not eager to throw money at them again for software I can't use. Not to mention the many plugins I had. So, I loaded up Poser 7 and I'm trying to learn that. Any body able to point me to some great beginner tuts? lol

LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2011 at 3:06 PM · edited Tue, 16 August 2011 at 3:07 PM

Quote - ... Any body able to point me to some great beginner tuts? lol

Dontcha worry....any questions you have can be answered right here. I imagine it's a big leap from DS to Poser (as it was for me from Poser to DS - so big I couldn't swing it...lol). Anyway, welcome to the fold

Oh, and I guess I should mention that if you are a Reality user, there is a Poser equivalent - Pose2Lux. I just thought I'd throw that out there...lol. It's free btw ;)

Laurie


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2011 at 3:22 PM

Quote - Well, I might as well throw in a curve ball.... I'll be switching TO Poser from Daz. I feel I got burned with DS3A, they never fixed all the bugs, still twitches and flashes on my machine. So I'm not eager to throw money at them again for software I can't use. Not to mention the many plugins I had. So, I loaded up Poser 7 and I'm trying to learn that. Any body able to point me to some great beginner tuts? lol

Just call the Doc. http://www.drgeep.com/

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Feel free to call me Ohki!

Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.

Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.

Cimaira ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2011 at 10:45 PM

Thanks Laurie and Ohki. I'll be back with questions I'm sure, since I have no clue where to start. Seems Dr.Geep is not accepting students at this time :(

sorry, I didn't mean to derail the thread, 

LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 17 August 2011 at 12:29 AM

Best place to start is probably the Poser manual. There are plenty of tutorials on the site as well. If not, ya can always ask ;).

Laurie


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