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Subject: Realistic Skin in Poser Pro 2010 or in other software?


jaguarmma ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 5:28 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 7:36 AM

My character looks fantastic in DAZ 3D Advanced

Model In DAZ 3D Advanced

 

But in Poser Pro 2010 it looks like this

 

Rendered in Poser Pro 2010

 

I havent figured out how to use DAZ 3D Advanced... I prefer to animate with Poser.....

 

Is there a way to acheive the same way my model looks in daz inside poser?

 

Does Daz play BVH files at all?


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 5:46 PM

For those blotchy black things on the skin, you need to set Texture Filtering to None. I find the skin itself (not the black bits) more realistic (looking at the neck) in PP2010, but that's obviously not the look you're after.

Something to consider: you might want to consider a shader... VSS suggests itself. Do a search by user Bagginsbill: a link to his stuff (including VSS) is in his signature.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 5:52 PM

That's a preview, not a render.  Of course it's gonna look manky.

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bagginsbill ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 6:39 PM

Your character will look better when you put shaders on. And do proper lighting.

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Winterclaw ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:04 PM · edited Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:04 PM

The second one to me looks more like a preview than anything else.

 

What are your render settings?

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jaguarmma ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:24 PM

The preview looks better then the firefly render.....

In vue my character looks 100% better but all of the changes made on the material to clothes dont go with the model inside Vue....

 

Am I missing something?


jaguarmma ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:26 PM

Is the a Shader guide for dummies? lol


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:32 PM

If you have a look at some of the renders produced with PP2010's FireFly, you'll come to realise that just possibly there may be a few things lacking in your lighting and rendering techniques. I'd have a look on this forum for subjects like IDL, shadows, lighting and so forth.

I'd be doing that before trying shaders, to be honest... even the best shaders need a reasonable lighting/render steup to look good.

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:36 PM

Also, it seems your morph isn't even on in your Poser image. What gives, you're trying to compare it halfway?

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:44 PM

bill's vss is the closest thing to "skin shader for dummies".  unfortunately most of the others require months of reading hundreds or thousands of forum msgs.  redviper just released easyshaderEVO on sharecg, but it don't look any easier than bill's vss, so far.  no links due to "adult content".  must avoid posting any imgs, as bill's wife would go ballistic if some of these showed up in one of his threads.  at least bill didn't get clobbered by the hurricane in martha's vinyard or thereabouts.



jaguarmma ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 7:51 PM

When I inject the morphs that came with my product poser gave me what you see in the second image.... In the 1st image daz showed me something completely different... I had to beef up the character since he lacked alot of muscle.


Winterclaw ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 9:07 PM

Quote - The preview looks better then the firefly render.....

In vue my character looks 100% better but all of the changes made on the material to clothes dont go with the model inside Vue....

 

Am I missing something?

 

For starters, what are your render settings?

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jaguarmma ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 9:47 PM

Fire Fly Render Settings

Fire Fly Render

 

Preview Render Settings

Preview Render Settings


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NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 6:43 AM

OK - I am a perpetual noob and I know nothing about Daz Studio. But to me, even the preview Poser image looks better than the Daz image. The skin has much more life. As Robyn says, you are probably not looking for lifelike skin. The Daz render looks more like a Poser 4 render, but you can't do a Poser 4 style render in PoserPro 2010. The skin shader that comes with VSS makes skin more lifelike, not less, so I doubt it will give you the effect you are looking for. For starters, you can turn gamma correction off in the Poser render settings and see if you like the result better. Possibly also use moderate quality render settings rather than max quality and see how you like it.

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richardson ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 8:47 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1808207&user_id=117649&member&np

If you want a better preview in PPro2010, raise "preview texture resolution" from 512 to 4096. Select "OpenGL" , "scene window"and "enhance multilayer transparency". Use Manual settings  and make sure Ray Trace and Shadows are checked.

Hopefully your pc can handle it.

Then get rid of the colors in the lights and move them till it pleases your eyes. You can load a background or a prop or just change the color of the background.. This will give you a decent preview.

This will not give you a decent render.

You must click "render now (firefly)" to see what you really did. You will need to move your lights many more times to see cause and effect. I probably rendered 2000 times before I posted my first and did not know what "render" was for a week. Just had preview animations ad nauseum.

Here's a Poser7 preview:


jaguarmma ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 2:41 PM

This is what he looks like with Fire Fly render.....

 

Now my pants look horrible =(

I like the skin though =)


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 6:30 PM

Pants might be glowing.


jaguarmma ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 6:37 PM

How do I make them not glow lol?

 

In the preview render they look great.... Pants are jet black but in the firefly render they appear gray-ish


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 6:45 PM

Look in the Material Room, tab Advanced, for Translucence Color, Translucence Value, Ambient Color and Ambient Value. Colors should be full black and Values should be zero, if they're not, change them to be.

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jaguarmma ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 7:06 PM

I fixed it in the material room....

under the advanced tab I changed the specular color from gray to black....

Fire Fly Render

 

Now the next thing for me is to animate my characters =)


jaguarmma ( ) posted Wed, 31 August 2011 at 5:08 PM

Here is the same pic but with a composite layer in After Effects

After Effects


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