while i posted my latest submissions, i just added them to the daz studio gallery, simply because they were created with ds3 - though not rendered. right now i've read the headline of this gallery, and especially one line caught my eye; quote: "Images of DAZ|Studio figures rendered in other applications are still welcome, but what's the challenge in that? See how well you can do using its basic rendering tools!"

huh? what's the challenge in that? just try it, and you will see :D

there is no make-my-daz-scene-most-beautyful-with-a-single-click application out there. renderers like octanerender (which i have choosen) or luxrender - even with the help of reality - just don't give outstanding results by just klicking "render". you need to dig into them, learn how to use them, how to create materials (the most important one) - just how their possibilities could help to make the results look good or even better. to reach a decent level it will take the same countless hours than tweaking daz' own renderer, but having the limits extended by margins.

so what's the point in saying native renders preferred? ds4 has an advanced renderer already, what's the challenge in that 'cause everything rendered in ds4 will just look better than if rendered in ds3 (you may disagree, and i will maybe too ;) - and there are still a lot of ds3 users out there.

i think, everyone who starts creating imagery with daz studio will - at some point - come to the conclusion, that he or she wants better results, and that simply means "choose another renderer". so if the daz studio gallery gives some insight in what will be possible by crossing this border, and using renderes like octane, lux, thea, arion, ... it'll be not the worst thing to have imo ;)

To be honest I had not seen that before, my friend.  It is a strange one because I do not understand what is mean't by "what's the challenge in that"? Is there supposed to be some kind of challenge in producing an image within the Daz software?......If so, I have never come across it!

Maybe the writer had some kiind of problem producing Daz rendered images.....or, maybe the comment translation is wrong....I don't know, but it is odd!

Anyway, I much prefer using Reality simply because of the technicalities involved, now that does create a challenge for me.

And, your right about DS4 render engine.....boy, that is really beefed up.  I can make some very nice stuff using that....WITHOUT LIGHTING!!!

apparently there must be a challenge to render a sweet looking image created in daz in another render engine.  but i read daz gallery as a render in a daz original program like carrerra, bryce, or daz studio so that's how i do it

I think it's possible to make an outstanding image using DS basic tools (I assume that means the basic lights too). It will be quite a  challenge as it means hours of experimentation / trail renders with different material surface settings, light combinations, settings and positioning.

Sometimes one does too quickly complain about the limitations of a program without taking the time to fully understand how to use all it's functions and their settings. As the old saying goes "a poor tradesman blames his tools".

I thought Sculptris was too simple a modeler but then when I saw what others had done I realised it was me not taking the time to experiment. Also having a good imagination helps considerably.