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Subject: Blackhearted Anastasia Clothing...
Quote - Anastasia and I are having this love/hate thing going on...
Love the morph, but it is so extreme on Alyson2, that Morphing Clothes and WW2 really struggle with a convert. For example, here is morphing clothes just taking a stock Alyson2 outift, and applying the FBM convert. ...wow... :( (Click for bigger)
I know auto-converts aren't great, not expecting perfection, but WW2 seems to do a better job going from V4 to Eepo than Alyson2 to Anastasia. The pants are the worst part. I could like with the top, by dialing back Ana to 0.85 or so...but I gotta get to like 0.5 for the pants, and then I am losing the magic of the character.
Anyone else getting better results?
Did you load Anastasia into poser and then have WW2 analyze the morphs so it can then transfer the antatasia moprhs to the converted cloth?
Gary
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Quote - Did you load Anastasia into poser and then have WW2 analyze the morphs so it can then transfer the antatasia moprhs to the converted cloth?
Yea, I believe so. Using the "Analyze Full Body Morphs", right? Then run a convert, and transfer the full body morph? Yep.
Yea, I know I can use Dynamic Clothes, but there are so many AWESOME conforming outfits that I have got from so many great vendors, it would be really cool to use them! A dynamic plain shirt and trousers just doesn't have the BAM! of an Uzilite Complicated Eve outfit. :thumbupboth:
Quote - i posted a notice yesterday at 5:27 PM in this thread informing people of it, and offering to send it directly.
unfortunately i am damned if i do, and damned if i dont. i try to address any possible issues immediately, but then i am faced with a dilemma about how to get the word out about an update. do you know what its like to send out a customer email notification? immediately my inbox fills up with a bunch of 'undeliverable' crap because people either havent kept their rosity email up-to-date or have far too aggressive antispam settings, and then about 10 min later the grumpy emails start coming in about how i am 'spamming' - no matter how politely i phrased the notification.
ive added a LOT of content in my Irina 2.0 and GND4.1 updates, and both times when sending a customer notification to let them know about the update i got flooded with nasty replies from people saying im spamming, and 'undeliverable' emails for days afterwards.
so yeah, until that changes - and it hasnt in over a decade - im always going to be hesitant about sending a customer notification.
That's really sad how paranoid so many Poser users are...also ignorant, mean, spiteful and worse. One of the many horror stories that keep me from wanting to ever be a merchant. My hat's off to you and the other merchants, Gabriel, for even trying to deal with their "issues."
^it may just be that people are used to getting a lot of spam. its not SO bad - not quite a horror story, heh - but yeah it is stressful. i mentioned to Rosity staff that perhaps another method of update notification would be better received by customers.
like on a mobile OS, when you have a little number icon beside your apps that need updating. you could log into rosity and there could be a little ticker somewhere on the page, or in your Sales page, that showed a feed of all the product updates relevant to your purchases. just like the PM notification, there could be another icon somewhere showing 'you have updates'.
it would also ensure that more people got the updates. i get a lot of undeliverables, and sometimes those annoying 'fill out this form to be allowed past my spam filter' -- which i actually do fill out, though half the time it doesnt work.
cheers,
-gabriel
Quote - ^it may just be that people are used to getting a lot of spam. its not SO bad - not quite a horror story, heh - but yeah it is stressful. i mentioned to Rosity staff that perhaps another method of update notification would be better received by customers.
like on a mobile OS, when you have a little number icon beside your apps that need updating. you could log into rosity and there could be a little ticker somewhere on the page, or in your Sales page, that showed a feed of all the product updates relevant to your purchases. just like the PM notification, there could be another icon somewhere showing 'you have updates'.
it would also ensure that more people got the updates. i get a lot of undeliverables, and sometimes those annoying 'fill out this form to be allowed past my spam filter' -- which i actually do fill out, though half the time it doesnt work.
cheers,
-gabriel
That's a good idea for updates!
She looks beautiful. 
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Quote - In the intrest of stirring up intrest in Alyson2 I've made a utility that will inject blank channels into Alyson 2. This will allow content creators to create convention INJ injections.
This utility is free for content creators to include with their products. Alyson2 is actually designed to accept PMD injections and that really is easier to use. It can create channels on the fly, it doesn't need blanks. I know that's not familiar to a lot of you. That's why I made this.
The Blanks injector will be in R'osity freebies soon or you can grab it from my site here: http://www.nerd3d.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=104
If you want to learn how to make your own PMD injector check out my tutorial here: http://www.nerd3d.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=13
ooo sweet. will it work on G2 figures, also?
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cheers,
-gabriel
Quote - I know this is a clothing thread but I just wanted to chime in and say - great job, Blackhearted!
thanks Teyon!
Quote - a (NSFW) Xmas Anastasia render and freestuff item - and no it doesnt load there :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2281425
cheers,
-gabriel
Quote - I know this is a clothing thread but I just wanted to chime in and say - great job, Blackhearted!
thanks Teyon!
I love Anastasia.. sadly I have 8 not 9. Thanks for the freebie Blackhearted :woot:
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oh and quick FYI on clothing... few of us content creators will quickly convert some of our popular sets to Alyson 2, and have them out more inexpensively ASAP. Those are sets that people loved for V4, and lot of people havem so you'll be able to reuse textures and props from the original sets (plus get couple new textures).
These will be nice hand done conversions, with no automatic converter cumpling.
Then we'll follow up with some new sets noone else has seen before :)
Also, I gather there wille be other characters based on GNDA, as add-ons, now that Gave has done most of refined morphing work, additional morphs and skins can be added to it.
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Gabe, did you choose Alyson 2 as a foundation because V4's mesh or rigging wouldn't do what you wanted it to do?
Alyson's body scheme (breasts are not part of her chest but rather her shoulders) freaks me out. And I sorely miss the ability to use V4 skin textures with Gabe's shaders.
Looking at the default Alyson, her appearance reminds me of primitive figures in the early days of our hobby. I knopw beauty is more than skin deep and the figures that come with Poser are much improved technically these days. But, man, why so unattractive in the default state? Is the idea to make you immediately run to CP and buy the $40 Miki 3?
Gabe, I'm amazed you were inspired to do this with default Alyson. Bravo. Literally an ugly duckling into a swan.
"Alyson's body scheme (breasts are not part of her chest but rather her shoulders) freaks me out. And I sorely miss the ability to use V4 skin textures with Gabe's shaders."
they actually bend better. think about it - when a woman (or man, for that matter) stretches her shoulder back or forward, her breasts/pecs will move.
"Gabe, did you choose Alyson 2 as a foundation because V4's mesh or rigging wouldn't do what you wanted it to do?"
that, and after what Daz did with Genesis i do not want to put all of my eggs into their basket anymore. Anastasia was part personal challenge and part trying to help give customers back their CHOICE in what figure to use. besides, Alyson 2 is already in everyones runtimes - so why not? i wish i could have made her Alyson 1 compatible as well but that just wasnt in the cards, and id rather continue developing for -- and adding features to -- Anastasia than working on an entirely new rig for backwards compatibility. poser 9/2012's lighting and renderer improvements, Subsurface Scattering, weight mapping and the morph brush are worth upgrading to in a heartbeat.
cheers,
-gabriel*
Quote - that, and after what Daz did with Genesis i do not want to put all of my eggs into their basket anymore. Anastasia was part personal challenge and part trying to help give customers back their CHOICE in what figure to use.
... and we appreciate this. Maybe if DAZ had done a simultaneous Genesis release with Poser and DAZ Studio I wouldn't have minded what they did so much. Since it's DAZ studio only, I can't use it because DAZ studio is so counter intuitive to how I work. As it stands now, I feel totally abandoned by DAZ after being a loyal customer for years.
The fact that Anastasia is NOT based on V4 is part of what excites me so about her.
I've voiced in other threads my concern that at some point Daz will withdraw V4 as a product. This will not affect those of us in the hobby now, but I think it is important to have viable figures available for the new users. The choice of Aly was, for me, an inspired one, since everyone HAS Aly.
Buying/making new textures is an issue with every new figure. For me that's small potatoes against the emergance of a truly lovely alternative to Victoria.
Thanks again, Blackheart!
It's just a matter of acclimating to something new. Like many Poser noobs I started out with the provided figures, plus Jessie 2 and the original Miki, whom they were giving away to Poser buyers at the time. I gradually moved over to V3, then V4 and have become accustomed to that. Now SM's figures seem primitive and off-putting to me.
But Anastasia, she is something else entirely. I could become rather fond of a girl like her. :) I don't totally agree with all the anti-DAZ sentiment around here, but I can understand the enthusiasm for such a nice new figure that bypasses the whole Genesis / DS4 debate. With Anastasia I don't have to care about Genesis and I don't have to remember what default Alyson 2 looks like. :)
Quote - Gabe, did you choose Alyson 2 as a foundation because V4's mesh or rigging wouldn't do what you wanted it to do?
Gabe has already given the GND treatment to V4 so it wasn't a choice between V4 and Alyson 2 :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/the-girl-next-door-4-athletic/63124
And he's done it for V3 and S3 as well - I know, I got 'em all :)
Quote - > Quote - Gabe, did you choose Alyson 2 as a foundation because V4's mesh or rigging wouldn't do what you wanted it to do?
Gabe has already given the GND treatment to V4 so it wasn't a choice between V4 and Alyson 2 :)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/the-girl-next-door-4-athletic/63124
And he's done it for V3 and S3 as well - I know, I got 'em all :)
Yes, but the V4 version isn't weight mapped, is she?
Quote - "Gabe, did you choose Alyson 2 as a foundation because V4's mesh or rigging wouldn't do what you wanted it to do?"
that, and after what Daz did with Genesis i do not want to put all of my eggs into their basket anymore. Anastasia was part personal challenge and part trying to help give customers back their CHOICE in what figure to use. besides, Alyson 2 is already in everyones runtimes - so why not? i wish i could have made her Alyson 1 compatible as well but that just wasnt in the cards, and id rather continue developing for -- and adding features to -- Anastasia than working on an entirely new rig for backwards compatibility. poser 9/2012's lighting and renderer improvements, Subsurface Scattering, weight mapping and the morph brush are worth upgrading to in a heartbeat.
cheers,
-gabriel*
Thank you for doing this. It is always good to have choices and she is a real pleasure to work with.
Has anyone tried Anastasia on Alyson 1? I don't have Alyson 2 (yet), and am not ready yet to buy Poser 2010 just so I can use Anastasia! :D A render would be nice.
Oh, and btw— Alyson 1 loads in Daz Studio 3, although a little rough around the edges (doubtless due to lacking the special Poser stuff)
there is a way to convert her morph to Alyson 1.
Deecey pioneered it. however, there are issues. Alyson 1 has a different T-pose and longer arms than Alyson 2, so in order for Anastasia to work on Alyson 1, shed need both the morph injection and rigging fixes. perhaps theres a way to inject the Alyson 2 rig (she doesnt just have weight mapping - she also has a fallback traditional rig) into Alyson 1, which would then work with the morph and give more compatibility.
btw PhilC hasnt posted yet - but he is working on adding WW fits to WW for Anastasia. Hes working with Deecey on them now. Netherworks is also working on adding support.
at the moment im working on an Expressions pack, which should go into Prime first thing after New Years (~$5 base, $3.50 prime). this will give her a range of quality custom expressions that should be well beyond the typical morph dial expressions. after that ill be joining the people making clothing for her.
cheers,
-gabriel
Quote - there is a way to convert her morph to Alyson 1.
Deecey pioneered it.
Should also add it's not for the faint of heart and I just happened to have the right combination of 3D software to make the morph work without explosions and "wrong number of vertices" messages. Lots of back and forth between several programs. Because of the different body shapes it will also involve changing joint parameters and such so it's not an easy conversion.
Deecey has nailed it: Anastasia is now ported to Alyson 1!!!! so Poser 8 support is coming soon. I will post a render shortly, i just need to remember to turn SSS off :P
it means i will need to do a slight shoulder tweak for her, port over her supplementary morphs like breasts and calves, and rework the shaders for P8. But its definitely going to be a reality. Of course P8 alyson has a couple quirks - like her arms will be a bit shorter, but other than that it looks pretty close. When it gets to that point ill be posting some comparisons of the P8 and P9+ versions of Anastasia.
Many thanks to Deecey's ingeniousness :)
Well, she's in my wishlist - I'm just waiting for clothing and accessories - never mind recovering from Christmas. I'm pleased to see that content is being developed for her and PROMISE to stand behind those vendors with my wallet. Of course, I'll take the freebies that come along, as well. :biggrin:
My first thought was that Gabe had given us Poser users something to cheer about. Like someone mentioned earlier, I'm counting on Anastasia being my new Victoria. With enough content I feel she'll turn things around for us. Daz is definitely moving in a direction I don't like, and I'm just not a Daz Studio user. Don't plan on being one, either.
Speaking of GND, am I the only one who remembers GND for Victoria 2 (or was that the original Stephanie Petite)?
Great work, Gabe!
Brynna
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Quote - btw PhilC hasnt posted yet - but he is working on adding WW fits to WW for Anastasia. Hes working with Deecey on them now. Netherworks is also working on adding support
I had a feeling this was happening! :m_tongue: (doh!)
Just saw this Anastasia pose set too! Good to see stuff starting to pop-up!
Quote - I had a feeling this was happening! :m_tongue: (doh!) Just saw this Anastasia pose set too! Good to see stuff starting to pop-up!
Straight into my wishlist. Nice to see DM in on the action.
Brynna
With your arms around the future, and your back up against the past
You're already falling
It's calling you on to face the music.
The Moody Blues
Dell Desktop XPS 8940 i9, three 14 tb External drives, 64 GB DDR4 RAM, NVidia RTX 3060 12 GB DDR5.
Monitor - My 75 Inch Roku TV. Works great!
Daz Studio Premier
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WELL NOW! Seeing as I'll be able to use her in Poser 8, you may just see a dynamic dress or two come your way in the next couple of months :P. Maybe even shoes if I'm feeling especially masochistic...lol. I've been wanting to frustrate myself to death with learning to rig. Maybe now's the time...hehe. If it doesn't kill me, you may even see some conformers from me.
Laurie
shes almost ready, but im kindof in a quandary here: im trying to figure out how to distribute this.
Anastasia for Alyson 1 works great. the morph is identical except for Alyson 1's little T-rex arms which i have remedied with some scaling.
However, everything in the GND: Anastasia package was built for Alyson 2 from the ground up. All of her content is geared towards the base Alyson 2 version. Her poses, her SSS shaders, JCMs, etc. Unfortunately functionality is lost with the Alyson 1 version. Even little things like her smart props and poses need tweaking. That said, the morph transferred perfectly and this is the best Alyson 1 has ever looked.
But I am not going to go through all the effort I went through making GND: Anastasia for Alyson 2 all over again just to completely port it to Alyson 1. Nor am I going to make every future update and add-on twice over just to maintain Alyson 1 compatibility... And I cant just put her in freestuff because its my full morph.
I was thinking of adding her as an unsupported free supplemental package to GND: Anastasia, with a disclaimer that you are getting her AS IS. There is still plenty there to be worth the while for adventurous Poser users who really want her in P8, but I'm not going to start taking bad feedback because the Alyson 1 version doesnt look/work exactly the Alyson 2 version. I'm going out of my way to provide extra functionality here, but I dont want me or my work to suffer for it.
Any thoughts?
Alyson 1 and Alyson 2 have different proportions in the arms, and a slightly different posture. As a result, they don't have the same joint parameters. The grouping between the two versions is also slightly different. What this basically means is that conforming clothing will not work the same from one version to the next.
This is what made the conversion rather tricky. The best compromise was to figure out a way to get the basic GNDA shape applied to Alyson 1 WITHOUT changing her proportions. Otherwise it would have meant totally rerigging her. Not a pleasant prospect. 8-)
Given the choice between the two, I'd lean toward making conformers for the Alyson 2/Poser 9/Poser Pro 2012 version because of the improved bending with weight maps, the better proportions, and the other nice features that P9/PP2012 has to offer.
Dynamics would probably work between the two, but conformers and poses will differ because of the different JPs.
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Anastasia and I are having this love/hate thing going on...
Love the morph, but it is so extreme on Alyson2, that Morphing Clothes and WW2 really struggle with a convert. For example, here is morphing clothes just taking a stock Alyson2 outift, and applying the FBM convert. ...wow... :( (Click for bigger)
I know auto-converts aren't great, not expecting perfection, but WW2 seems to do a better job going from V4 to Eepo than Alyson2 to Anastasia. The pants are the worst part. I could like with the top, by dialing back Ana to 0.85 or so...but I gotta get to like 0.5 for the pants, and then I am losing the magic of the character.
Anyone else getting better results?