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Subject: Mini Tutorial for Converting Clothes for V4-WM


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Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 1:32 PM · edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 2:57 PM

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Here's a quick mini tutorial for converting clothes with the V4WM script.  It would be good to hear from as many people what works and what doesn't.  Cage and shvrdavid are putting their heads together over at the Poser Place to come up with a dedicated clothing conversion script and I'm sure they'll come up with something spectacular.  In the meantime it'd be nice to hear if this works for people.

This method uses the script that came with V4WM.




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hborre ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 1:41 PM
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This is as simple as it gets.  Thanks, Vestmann.


Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 1:42 PM

No problem.  And please let me know how it works for you, good or bad.




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Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 1:43 PM

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I know this method works really well for the V4 Bodysuit.




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SteveJax ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 3:58 PM · edited Thu, 26 January 2012 at 3:59 PM

Question: Why do you have to copy the joint zones each time you conform? Aren't they copied permanently once you save the conformed item?

 

PS - Love the new Avatar.


Kalypso ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 4:09 PM
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Thanks Vestmann!  I suspected the script would work but when I mentioned it I was referred to the method described in the Antonia guide.   Thanks for all the details! 


Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 4:31 PM

Quote - Question: Why do you have to copy the joint zones each time you conform? Aren't they copied permanently once you save the conformed item?

 

PS - Love the new Avatar.

Actually, when I reloaded the bodysuit I didn't have to copy the joint zones so maybe it's just something to keep in mind IF the clothing starts to behave strangely

...and thanks :)




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VonCroy ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 5:42 PM

I just followed the tutorial on TheJeans and it seems to have worked very well. The top of the thighs seem to conform better. I did not have to re-copy the joint zones when I reloaded the conveted item.

Also V4's arm pits look much better in the WM version.


GeneralNutt ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 6:04 PM

Wow, I'm stunned this works so well. I have been trying high heel boots, dresses and robes.



Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 6:07 PM

Quote - Wow, I'm stunned this works so well. I have been trying high heel boots, dresses and robes.

That's great. I don't have that many dresses or robes. It would great to see a screen shot or a render.




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GeneralNutt ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 6:35 PM

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There is a bit of poke though on the chest. I didn't try to fix anything, just a screen capture.



Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 6:43 PM

There are still magnets on V4's chest that can cause problems.  Go to the 'Magnetize Clothing' folder that should be in your 'Daz's Victoria 4' pose folder and load the '!Magnetize to V4' Pose.




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GeneralNutt ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 6:50 PM

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Too lazy for that. Morph brush 5 seconds didn't need to change screens.



Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 7:17 PM

One thing I should have said earlier.  There is no need to use the script if the clothing doesn't need the helper bones.  The helper bones are in the hip/thigh, chest and shoulder/forearms areas so for most shoes it's enough to only use the 'Copy Joint Zones from...' in the figure menu.




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Kalypso ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 7:39 PM
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The Electra dress converted wonderfully!  And the best thing is the morphs are already there (and there are many!) so it's a great timesaver.  Trying boots, sandals and shoes next.   Thanks again Vestmann!


Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 7:49 PM

Quote - The Electra dress converted wonderfully!  And the best thing is the morphs are already there (and there are many!) so it's a great timesaver.  Trying boots, sandals and shoes next.   Thanks again Vestmann!

That is beautiful Kalypso!  It's good to get as many of these as possible. Especially things that don't work so we can find out why.




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Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 10:44 PM

A quick update. It seems that it's crucial to have SR1 installed in order to use the Copy Joint Zones from the Figure menu.




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nakamuram ( ) posted Thu, 26 January 2012 at 11:45 PM

Vestman,

 

How well does your technique work for high-heeled shoes, like Idler's?  Do you have any examples of shoe conversions?


Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 12:17 AM

Quote - Vestman,

 

How well does your technique work for high-heeled shoes, like Idler's?  Do you have any examples of shoe conversions?

I fear I'm having some problems with open shoes.  The V4WM team is aware of the problem and I'll post a solution as soon as it surfaces. I must go to bed now (it's 6 am where I am, yikes)  Hopefully we'll resolve this soon.




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nakamuram ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 12:57 AM

Thanks Vestman!!  When you get the problem solved, please let me know, and I will abandon Genesis and get Poser 9.  Are you using Poser 9 or Poser Pro 2012?


Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 2:03 AM

I use Poser Pro 2012.  If you have a 64bit operating system, I highly recommend it. 




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paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 9:47 AM

Another trick that Glitterati3D found.

Do your pose for V4WM.

Conform clothes to V4WM.

Looks odd?????

Select the clothes item, go to the Figures menu, select the Zero Figure option.

Looks better.

Now if you change the pose, you have to do the Zero Figure option again etc.

All the best.

LROG

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hborre ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 10:00 AM
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That seems like a lot of trouble to conform clothing to poses.


paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 10:01 AM

It's just a solution to a problem.

All the best.

LROG

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Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 10:12 AM

All of this is hopefully temporary until we find a more permanent coversion solution,




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ghost13 ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 1:26 PM

love it

 


RAMWorks ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 1:27 PM

Cool information..... Now we jus need a weight mapped M4! 

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RobynsVeil ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 4:26 PM

Quote - Cool information..... Now we jus need a weight mapped M4! 

Phantom3D is offering a course at PoserPlace where you can roll-your-own. THIS is the beauty of Poser: preserving the freedom to create our own! BTW, I'm first in the queue for that class... no queue-jumping and no pushing. 😉

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RAMWorks ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 7:15 PM

Hahaha.... call me lazy.. no lets make that uber busy so I'll just wait ... I'm sure he will ... come! 

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testingrocky ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 7:46 PM

Thanks.


Kendra ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 7:58 PM

Works great.  And I learned I didn't have SR1 yet.  Once I installed that it worked perfectly.  

...... Kendra


RAMWorks ( ) posted Fri, 27 January 2012 at 8:15 PM

By the by, the update checker inside of Poser Pro 2012 didn't seem to work at all, I had to go hunt down that SR1 myself... anyone else have that problem??

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Vestmann ( ) posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 2:12 PM

Just wanted to let people know that Cage is working on a dedicated clothing script and it's looking really promising at the moment.  It will have the ability to select multiple clothing items and it will transfer the weights automatically and save the items into the library.  And it's FAST! ;)




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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 2:31 PM
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That is great news.  Hopefully it will be available soon.


Vestmann ( ) posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 5:02 PM

There are some complications as one would expect but I'm confident Cage and the crew will sort those out.  




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ghost13 ( ) posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 6:34 PM

very cool n good to hear :)


paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Thu, 02 February 2012 at 5:18 PM

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OK, to show what has been going on with the V4WM clothing conversion project.

There won't be a release date until there is an official notice, so please don't ask, it will be sometime in the near future. Let's just say as well that there has been some great work done by the programmers of the Poser Place Crew.

This is my V4WM Pixie in the WM versions of the Chain top and skirt from RDNA. Took less than a minute to convert both, both conformed perfectly the first time, no poke through, no post work. What you see is what I rendered and nothing else.

All the best.

LROG

Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 02 February 2012 at 6:17 PM · edited Thu, 02 February 2012 at 6:18 PM
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So, how near in the near future?

Nice conversion, BTW.


Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 02 February 2012 at 7:57 PM

We don't really know ourselves. I think the bulk of the scripting work is done so it should be soon.




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grichter ( ) posted Fri, 03 February 2012 at 5:16 AM · edited Fri, 03 February 2012 at 5:18 AM

Quote - So, how near in the near future?

Nice conversion, BTW.

Look on the bright side...nobody used the dreaded "S" word! :blink: Does this mean Poserites have their core word now for we don't know when...."Near Future!" Cool beans....:laugh: Edited to add, I have ants in my pants and can't wait for this to be finished. Good job PoserPlaceCrew!

Gary

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paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Fri, 03 February 2012 at 7:13 AM

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Another one that needed nothing changed, worked perfect first time!!!

All the best.
LROG

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ghost13 ( ) posted Fri, 03 February 2012 at 7:15 AM

pics look great

 


3doutlaw ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 10:36 AM

Does this process work for just V4 Rigged conforming clothes, or can it be used for clothes that are modeled but not rigged?  (sorry, maybe this is a dumb question, but I am playing with Hex, and have not yet got to the "rigging" part...its all new to me)


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 12:03 PM

Any chance there's a script like this to convert clothing for Antonia~Standard to Antonia~WM? Would really be a lifesaver for the clothing I'm starting to make for her ;)

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Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 12:28 PM

Quote - Any chance there's a script like this to convert clothing for Antonia~Standard to Antonia~WM? Would really be a lifesaver for the clothing I'm starting to make for her ;)

The new converter will also work for Antonia ;)  It should be ready early next week.




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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 12:32 PM

Quote - > Quote - Any chance there's a script like this to convert clothing for Antonia~Standard to Antonia~WM? Would really be a lifesaver for the clothing I'm starting to make for her ;)

The new converter will also work for Antonia ;)  It should be ready early next week.

 

OOOOH! Awesome! And will it be ok to sell clothes converted with it? (I mean, clothes I make. I'm hoping to make stuff for Antonia Standard, and then convert to Antonia WM, and include both versions in my product.)

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Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.


Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 12:37 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Any chance there's a script like this to convert clothing for Antonia~Standard to Antonia~WM? Would really be a lifesaver for the clothing I'm starting to make for her ;)

The new converter will also work for Antonia ;)  It should be ready early next week.

 

OOOOH! Awesome! And will it be ok to sell clothes converted with it? (I mean, clothes I make. I'm hoping to make stuff for Antonia Standard, and then convert to Antonia WM, and include both versions in my product.)

I don't know for sure so I passed the question over to the Poser Place team. I'm they'll answer quickly ;) 




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Vestmann ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 12:46 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Any chance there's a script like this to convert clothing for Antonia~Standard to Antonia~WM? Would really be a lifesaver for the clothing I'm starting to make for her ;)

The new converter will also work for Antonia ;)  It should be ready early next week.

 

OOOOH! Awesome! And will it be ok to sell clothes converted with it? (I mean, clothes I make. I'm hoping to make stuff for Antonia Standard, and then convert to Antonia WM, and include both versions in my product.)

Here's an answer from Cage over at PoserPlace:

"I don't see why it wouldn't be okay to sell converted clothes -- as long as you own the rights to sell the original, unconverted versions of those clothes. Again, we're using the built-in Poser function, here. We're adding in the helper bone geometries, but those fall under the Creative Commons licenses used when releasing Antonia-WM and V4-WM. Any additional proxy geometries added by the script for ghost actors are the same basic mesh as the helper bones and are algorithmically generated by a script which will be released under GPL. So, yes. As long as the person has the right to sell the original version of the garment, they should have the right to sell the converted version."




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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 1:04 PM

Thank you for the answer! And aren't they always such darlings <3 this will be great!

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3doutlaw ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 2:41 PM

Doh! I sort of got buried up there about 7 posts back.  Where's the love?  ;-)


GeneralNutt ( ) posted Fri, 10 February 2012 at 2:54 PM

3doutlaw, that's not the intent or scope of the script. But people always find new things as time goes by.



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