Poser seems to be selling well enough.  Amazon did sell out.  People who placed orders ended up having to wait for delivery while they re-stocked.  (Admittedly, Amazon had great discounts on it over the holidays, which undoubtedly helped.)

I do like DAZ's figures, but what I really miss is the content.  I look at their store, and they have nice stuff for V5 that I wish I could use.  Not enough to actually install DS, though. 

Quote - Poser seems to be selling well enough.  Amazon did sell out.  People who placed orders ended up having to wait for delivery while they re-stocked.  (Admittedly, Amazon had great discounts on it over the holidays, which undoubtedly helped.)

I do like DAZ's figures, but what I really miss is the content.  I look at their store, and they have nice stuff for V5 that I wish I could use.  Not enough to actually install DS, though. 

 

 

See, when I look at their store, I see the same stuff, sold for V4, by the same vendors, trying to convince me I should spend the money for the very same product which has a higher price tag this time.

ROFL, just don't think I'm gonna fall for it twice.  Especially, when the supposed selling point to the Genesis blob was that you didn't have to buy all that stuff over again.....

You know, kinda like the new tutorial that shows you how to create a figure, even though:

a) According to DAZ, the Genesis blob is the end all, be all of figure creation now and forevermore; and

b) All the newbies now downloading the expensive, "free" software need to know how to create clothes for the Genesis blob and are getting told they NEED this part too.

No one's looked on the bright side of the split yet:

At least the galleries will be less homogenous ;).

Laurie

You know what??
I am going back into the future and use the Poser 1 male and female. :-)
Nothing beats the origionals. :-)

Beam me up Scotty :-)

Check out hte Rendo store, check out the RDNA store and you will find items that look like those nice new Genesis ones.

All the best.

LROG

Quote - "Is that PoserPhysics in action? Or something else?"

Hi indeed that is poser physics  running in good old Poser 6
Here is a another example clip demonstrating an undocumented "Exploding prop" Feature that I actually discovered in poser physics
EXPLOSIONS

Cheers

Nice work there Wolf... the exploding vehicles work really well.

Major LOL at the one where the V4 gets punted into the prop with the toilet in it... and her leg is stuck through part of the exploding / collapsing prop ;-)

I look forward PoserPhysics for 2012 being released (I think its still in the works)...

Quote - Check out hte Rendo store, check out the RDNA store and you will find items that look like those nice new Genesis ones.

Perhaps.  I did buy a Prime membership with the idea of doing that, but so far I haven't found anything I wanted to buy.  It's just harder to find stuff here at Rosity, and harder to predict the quality of the item.  DAZ has that nice money back guarantee, which makes it a lot easier to pull the trigger.

I wish I found it harder to find stuff here and at RDNA. I would be much richer! :m_smile:

I've not been disappointed with anything I've purchased either at Renderosity or RDNA but I've purchased plenty at the other place that hasn't been tested thoroughly in Poser and so has had to be fixed by me or returned. I guess that is why they need that guarantee. I'm tired of being a beta tester for them and have bought absolutely nothing there in almost a year. However, I've had Render Rewards here every month this last year. I love the Prime category too. Plenty of high quality bargains in there and much better than the PC. :m_smile:

I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I would like.  I just find the sheer number of offerings overwhelming.  Trying to weed through it all...

Wow, that looks really good wolf!

**Glitterati3D wrote;
**> Quote - See, when I look at their store, I see the same stuff, sold for V4, by the same vendors, trying to convince me I should spend the money for the very same product which has a higher price tag this time. ROFL, just don't think I'm gonna fall for it twice.  Especially, when the supposed selling point to the Genesis blob was that you didn't have to buy all that stuff over again.....

You don't need to buy it all over a second time, you can convert them easily enough with the CCT. The main reason they are in the store is for new people who don't have V4.

Quote - You know, kinda like the new tutorial that shows you how to create a figure, even though: a) According to DAZ, the Genesis blob is the end all, be all of figure creation now and forevermore; and

b) All the newbies now downloading the expensive, "free" software need to know how to create clothes for the Genesis blob and are getting told they NEED this part too.

"Whether you want to create an original, stand-alone figure, or create an add-on figures for geo-grafting, or just learn more about weight-mapping and adding ghost bones for use in clothing creation, this tutorial will teach you all the basics you need to know.

Coldrake*

Urgh. The usual suspects just don't get it, and it's getting in the way of the actual good stuff. :/

Don't mind me though - I'm only posting this to unsubscribe. To those usual suspects? Enjoy that keg o' bile you seem to be swilling, campers... and try not to be too angry surprised when both companies continue to grow and thrive, in spite of your worst efforts to influence prophesies otherwise.

Quote - No one's looked on the bright side of the split yet:

At least the galleries will be less homogenous ;).

Laurie

Now now! Don't go bringing us Homo's into this cat fight! Erm... oh... wait... nevermind!

Quote - OTOH, it still doesn't explain why we get someone claiming long and loud that they have no need for something, and yet in every topic where that something is dicussed, there they are.

I think the explanation may be quite simple.  Some people visit the forums while waiting for renders.  Unfortunately, the forums aren't quite active enough to keep a person going through a quality render unless there's a thread with at least a bit of controversy.  So peeps flock to such threads.  This issue provides guaranteed short-term distraction.  Posting in such a thread, however, is not equivalent to having any real emotions about the issue at hand.  Might be anger, resentment, bitterness, idealism, enthusiasm -- but could just as easily be curiosity, or sheer boredom.

I'm mildly curious about this: I'm picking up that there are those who feel strongly that Poser users should be upset/annoyed/dismayed/some-other-unhappy-sentiment because of their chosen software's inability to support another software's figure and the technology that figure represents. This appears to be the message of the OP and several other posters.

Those posters are contrasted by enthusiastic Poser users (with a few exceptions) who are clearly saying they're quite happy not being able to use those figures. That doesn't seem to please those other-technology proponents, who seem to want Poser users to demand to their software developer that Poser be able to use this other software's figure and incorporate the technology necessary for those figures into Poser. Enthusiastic Poser users counter with the statement that they perfectly content that Smith Micro has decided to focus on weight-mapping and better, more sophisticated materials, but that doesn't seem to satisfy those intent on making Poser users want/need these competitive/incompatible figures.
Which, frustratingly enough to those individuals, doesn't seem to be happening.

It's always those same people, too. You can pretty much predict what will be said.

I'm working in Blender 2.63. Jeez, if I were going to proselitise, caustics, node-based glass with an IOR channel, real-time preview rendering, materials that boggle the mind. Blender knocks the socks off what I'm rendering in Poser. But, I'm leaving it alone. I'll just use Blender for what it does best.

We Poser-users already have figures galore. You want more? Have a look at what Turbo-Squid has to offer and ask Smith Micro for SubD in the next version of Poser. Don't limit yourselves. Do think outside of the content-creator-as-standard-setter box.

There is some awesome stuff out there. And more on the way.

Quote - **Glitterati3D wrote;
**> Quote - See, when I look at their store, I see the same stuff, sold for V4, by the same vendors, trying to convince me I should spend the money for the very same product which has a higher price tag this time. ROFL, just don't think I'm gonna fall for it twice.  Especially, when the supposed selling point to the Genesis blob was that you didn't have to buy all that stuff over again.....

You don't need to buy it all over a second time, you can convert them easily enough with the CCT. The main reason they are in the store is for new people who don't have V4.

 

Quote - You know, kinda like the new tutorial that shows you how to create a figure, even though: a) According to DAZ, the Genesis blob is the end all, be all of figure creation now and forevermore; and

b) All the newbies now downloading the expensive, "free" software need to know how to create clothes for the Genesis blob and are getting told they NEED this part too.

"Whether you want to create an original, stand-alone figure, or create an add-on figures for geo-grafting, or just learn more about weight-mapping and adding ghost bones for use in clothing creation, this tutorial will teach you all the basics you need to know.

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Coldrake*

ROFL, yep......DAZ's entire existence is based on finding enough suckers to fall for the marketing.

Once more:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2848343

Can we please abide by established forum policy?

Quote - > Quote - No one's looked on the bright side of the split yet:

At least the galleries will be less homogenous ;).

Laurie

 

Now now! Don't go bringing us Homo's into this cat fight! Erm... oh... wait... nevermind!

Gawd Steve...lol. :P

Laurie

"...really depended on VBA's (Excel) IDE... "

Maybe take a look at Iron Python aka Python for .NET so you could use the Visual Studio IDE - still the best in the business IMO.

I used C a lot in the ancient past and later Delphi, now VB+Win32. Since I only program for myself now that's it as long as there's a VM if needed to run it :-) If I take up anything else, it might be something off the wall like Lua.

Quote - I'm mildly curious about this: I'm picking up that there are those who feel strongly that Poser users should be upset/annoyed/dismayed/some-other-unhappy-sentiment because of their chosen software's inability to support another software's figure and the technology that figure represents. This appears to be the message of the OP and several other posters.

Those posters are contrasted by enthusiastic Poser users (with a few exceptions) who are clearly saying they're quite happy not being able to use those figures. That doesn't seem to please those other-technology proponents, who seem to want Poser users to demand to their software developer that Poser be able to use this other software's figure and incorporate the technology necessary for those figures into Poser. Enthusiastic Poser users counter with the statement that they perfectly content that Smith Micro has decided to focus on weight-mapping and better, more sophisticated materials, but that doesn't seem to satisfy those intent on making Poser users want/need these competitive/incompatible figures.
Which, frustratingly enough to those individuals, doesn't seem to be happening.

Very cogent observation, indeed.