BB I did use real reflections with ezskin, I turned the bounces down to 1 and  the render went quickly.

 A picture is worth a thousand words!

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Quote - BB I did use real reflections with ezskin, I turned the bounces down to 1 and  the render went quickly.

Aha. The new reflection behavior that respects reflections of blurred reflections should probably have been an option. We don't always need it and now there is evidence that it is rather expensive in some situations.

one bounce?!   but, but, what about 20 bounces?

lol

I'm having problems minimizing during rendering.  I can use show desktop, but opening anything from the desktop, eg explorer, reveals Poser running in the background.  I'd like to think I would have noticed if it had been doing this all along.  Would be nice if clicking the minus gadget would send Poser to the taskbar during a render.

But no one else seems to be complaining about it...

Were you able to minimize in the past? I have never. I have gotten used to using Window-D to hide all windows and then I can bring something up, but Poser still pops up with it. I hate this behavior, but it's typical of the program's lack of respect for UI standards, so I dismissed it long ago as something you just have to live with, because in the end I'd rather have SSS than a minimizable window.

 

Quote - Were you able to minimize in the past? I have never. I have gotten used to using Window-D to hide all windows and then I can bring something up, but Poser still pops up with it. I hate this behavior, but it's typical of the program's lack of respect for UI standards, so I dismissed it long ago as something you just have to live with, because in the end I'd rather have SSS than a minimizable window.

 

It's hard to say, but anything you notice something right after installing a SR, you tend to wonder if it's been changed.  I'd gotten use to using "show desktop" to hide Poser, but bringing any program forward brings Poser forward too...  I'll try Window-D, as that's a new shortcut to me.

Window-D is show desktop. You just said what I said.

Quote - then I can bring something up, but Poser still pops up with it

Quote - Window-D is show desktop. You just said what I said.

Quote - then I can bring something up, but Poser still pops up with it

Wasn't sure the behavior was the same, I've been using the corner widget and it sounded like you were using a key command... 

If I click the widget while in Firefox or Vegas it takes me to the desktop.  If I launch winrar or open an explorer window, those programs stay hidden.  Poser pops itself back open between the desktop and the launched program.  So that seems wrong to me.  And since I just installed SR3 I have to think it's somehow different to just be noticing it now. 

Always was that way for me.

Same here, I noticed that behavior before SR3. Poser do weird things, I believe it's in part due to its calls to external processes, like the library and the render service. 

For example, when hit the render button and minimize Poser's window, once the render is finished the library window pops right back. 

Had problem with a new genesis figure I exported to poser pro 2012 after sr3 update (I usually use one I saved into a default pz3 file that I created with sr2). As a test I loaded the exsiting one that was in my pz3 file, that is ok. I then loaded exactly the same figure but this time from the library into the same scene file. I got the same mesh mess as I did with the new one I had tried before. Sr3 seems to be handling the loading of the figures from the library (but not saved pz3 files) different some how. Any suggestions before I go back to sr2?

I have loaded lots of genesis figures from the library without any distortions and yours is the first one showing this problem. What version of DS has this been exported with?

 

This has nothing to do with SR3.
This is an exploding mesh.
A corrupt file most probably.
Or the way it was exported-imported.

Albert Einstein said, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."

We think you're suffering from multiple causation fallacy, a variation of post hoc ergo propter hoc. "This happened after SR3, therefore SR3 caused it."

Often people doing this are unaware of what else happened in the interval, and fail to give any credence to the idea that they've missed something.

The clue is when nobody else can verify the experience.

> Quote - This has nothing to do with SR3. > This is an exploding mesh. > A corrupt file most probably. > Or the way it was exported-imported.

Could very well be, however I renamed my sr3 install. Installed the original pp2012 then sr2. Loading the same figures from the same external runtime as before they loaded perfectly. So ok there maybe a corrupt or mesh issue, and I'm not a coding wizard, sr3 may not have caused but it aggravated it. I said it only happened when I loaded it from the librarary and not when it was saved in a pre-existing pz3 file. Picture of sr2 load above. Will keep both sr's on hard drive for now.

Quote - Albert Einstein said, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."

We think you're suffering from multiple causation fallacy, a variation of post hoc ergo propter hoc. "This happened after SR3, therefore SR3 caused it."

Often people doing this are unaware of what else happened in the interval, and fail to give any credence to the idea that they've missed something.

The clue is when nobody else can verify the experience.

I have considered that possibility.  I wasn't necessarily saying that SR3 caused the behavior, it could simply have been the installation procedure changing my settings for example.  But I have been using PoserPro2012 almost daily for weeks, so it does seem odd to notice something right after updating.

So if I understand correctly, you have this file that opens right in SR2 (confirmed) and opens exploded in SR3? Don't explain anything. Don't qualify.

I'm just trying to get a straight fact established. No writing files. No nothing. File opens in SR2 fine, does not open in SR3?

If so - don't touch the file!!! It's valuable.

Send it to SM.

Quote - BB I did use real reflections with ezskin, I turned the bounces down to 1 and  the render went quickly.

 

Aha! Wonder if that's my problem too. Must try it.

 

Think i have found a bug in SR3. try and use the wind force. i tried everything to get it to work in poser 2012 sr3 and nothing, not even a slight movement, so i did a test, on Poser 8, how easy is it on there, i can blow wind at everything and change most of the settings and still get results, but poser 2012 sr3, nothing... can someone give this a quick test to check if their p2012 sr3 is working with wind force or perhaps a fix is in order mr smith micro????

It looks like a bug in sr3. It works in sr2.1

 

I finally am home and installed SR3.  I have a scene that I use to test hardware with IDL, SSS and transparency; it gets the CPU into the mid 50 degrees C range.  It renders in 25:47 in SR2, and 27:04 in SR3, so it's not a huge difference.  There are some subtle differences in the shadows, but no major differences betwen the two renders...

Quote - I have a scene that I use to test hardware with IDL, SSS and transparency; it gets the CPU into the mid 50 degrees C range.

50C! No wonder she's doing her admin work in a bikini.