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Subject: Miki 4 Needs Renders As Well


SamTherapy ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 4:48 PM

I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users.  Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:07 PM

are there any premade head morphs apart for miki4 to change the character?

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:42 PM · edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:43 PM

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Yes, she gets my thumbs up so far.

I used amber hair in this render. I had to unhide the dials for translate in the head part of the hair, and then the hair came in nicely.

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richardson ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:54 PM

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Eyelashes as a separate obj.. great.. You can render down on them finally, leave them behind when in Zbrush and not worry about trashing them. Old Miki3 texture with baked in lip gloss. not good. cropped it off after a long render.


jerr3d ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:55 PM · edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 5:56 PM

Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users...

What, she's not also free to us DAZ Studio 4 Genesis users too? T.T

(jk, although I downloaded DS4, I have yet to install it).

Miki 4 looks awesome by the way.  I should upgrade my software...


thinkcooper ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:16 PM

Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users.  Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

 

Come on, you know you wanna upgrade, you know I want you to upgrade, you know that Miki and Tyler want you to upgrade. ;-)

BTW - I read your post to our team today - it was really clever and made us giggle. Thank you for that.

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Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:16 PM

Quote - Just installed her and messed around, I really like the figure as a whole, but what is with those hands..!

They look a bit long to me.....

But, that aside I will be using her a lot..

 

I originally had them too small, they got scaled up somewhere along the way. I may have over did it.


Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:20 PM

Quote - Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

I think armpits might even matter to me as much as feet matter to Laurie... maybe. Maybe that's my new thing... armpits :lol:

Personally, I like her feet too... maybe more so with a touch of arch morph added... sure.

I find that armpits are often overlooked in most 3D models. So I tried to pay attention to that area. I'm glad it paid off. Next time, it'll be feet hands and....armpits! :D


Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:22 PM

Esther, I love that hair on her (and I'm not a big fan of bangs). Which is that?


estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:25 PM

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I agree, it really does suit her doesn't it.  It's called amber hair and it is at rdna.  I'm a huge fan of bangs. 

It was really easy to get it to fit.  I just unhid the translate dial in the neck part of the hair and dialed y until it sat nicely.

Here's a screen cap of the dial.

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:25 PM

Quote - Esther, I love that hair on her (and I'm not a big fan of bangs). Which is that?

 

I was thinking the same thing!!



paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:28 PM

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One from me.

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:28 PM

Here's a crappy render of a younger Miki 4 I did with body morph, faceroom and EZskin. Miki 4


nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:29 PM

Sorry about the vertical distortion. It's not there in the original.


Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:31 PM · edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:31 PM

These are all great. I'm glad you all are finding things to like about her.  That's pretty sweet. I'm going to have to hunt down that hair at RDNA, thanks. :D


estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:38 PM

nobodyinparticular, that is too distorted for me to be able to tell how it looks.

what scaling changes did you make?

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:43 PM

She be showing some serious potential here folks.  This is exciting! 8-)



DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:48 PM

That hair went right in my shopping cart (mwahahahahaha!)



nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 6:58 PM

The problem is how the image shows up on the forum. I really didn't do any scaling, since she is the shortest of my poser women, slightly shorter that Alyson. This was just a quick and dirty project. I think I'll just delete the post. The distortion is not in the original.


estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:20 PM

but now I am curious.  I often just do screen caps of my render in poser and it seems to import fine into here.

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LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:30 PM

Yeah, mine import fine too, tho I do it thru the file import at the bottom of the reply box and not with the picture tool up in the right corner.

Laurie



estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:34 PM

I never noticed the picture tool.  I do it your way.

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:44 PM

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Try again. Thanks Laurie. Interface too cluttered. Too little sleep. Like I said, a crappy render anyway.


estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:47 PM

not bad.

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 7:51 PM

Thanks. I try not to repeat characters. The face room is my friend.


toastie ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:01 PM · edited Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:02 PM

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Definitely looks better, but I think I'll be sticking to GND4 and GNDA2 for feet!

 


smallspace ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:37 PM

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Have to say I'm a little underwhelmed. She has the strangest looking butt I've ever seen. Also, whoever rigged the eyes has probably never used the "point at" feature in Poser or they would know how badly they screwed up.

Why make the eyelashes a seperate figure? That's just going to make developement harder.

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

 

One last thing. I HATE the exe installer!!! I am not an idiot who needs to have everything installed for me! In fact, I don't want ANYTHING in the places you decided to put them! I want geometries in the geometry  folder. I want pmd files all in an injection folder.  PLEASE...don't do me any favors! Just give me the zip, I'll put everything where I want and run it through Poser File Organizer to correct the references.

 

Rant over.

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:39 PM

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that's anice looking character already.  But have you not tried the faceroom to adjust the features more?

You will need to turn off those extra eyelashes and switch back to transmapped.  both are included.  for me the more options the better.

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estherau ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:41 PM

why would you not want to manually move the eyes separately from each other for a less crosseyed look?  when people look at something close up their eyes converge, and when they look at something in the distance their eyes diverge.  does the point at trick adjust for that movement?

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toulouse2k ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:44 PM

Here is a test of aniBlock-to-Poser app with the new Miki 4.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GWHt2UgKVQ


toulouse2k ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 8:54 PM

Here you go:

This is Miki 4 rendered in DazStudio.

 

Miki 4


Teyon ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 9:05 PM

To resize and move the eyes, use the face room. There are dials there specifcally for that and moving the ears.

Quote -  

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

 

 

So if you don't like the one in her head actor, you can use the ones in the face room. 


RedPhantom ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 9:51 PM
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Eric Walters ( ) posted Wed, 26 September 2012 at 10:28 PM

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Hey Steve

I'm impressed! Great work! Great body shape and morphs Teyon- love the expressive face!

Eric

quote]

Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

 

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

  • Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies
  • Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs
  • Denise Tyler for documentation and testing
  • Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers
  • Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
    -Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door
  • my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value
  • Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components
  • and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.



ssgbryan ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 12:09 AM

Quote - Have to say I'm a little underwhelmed. She has the strangest looking butt I've ever seen. Also, whoever rigged the eyes has probably never used the "point at" feature in Poser or they would know how badly they screwed up.

Why make the eyelashes a seperate figure? That's just going to make developement harder.

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

 

One last thing. I HATE the exe installer!!! I am not an idiot who needs to have everything installed for me! In fact, I don't want ANYTHING in the places you decided to put them! I want geometries in the geometry  folder. I want pmd files all in an injection folder.  PLEASE...don't do me any favors! Just give me the zip, I'll put everything where I want and run it through Poser File Organizer to correct the references.

 

Rant over.

Some people would bitch if they were hung with new rope.

There are these things called "morphs" with with figure, you can change the shape of the butt if it isn't to your fancy.

The eyelashes as a separate figure were in response to customer input on Miki 2 or 3, I remember a number of requests for it.

If you don't like how the eyes and ears work, redo the rigging in the modeler of your choice.

The exe installer is there for a reason. 

According to the Poser Product Manager, the exe was necessary because some files had to be added to the Poser program to support Tyler and Miki4.  It won't be necessary for the next version of Poser.



MargyThunderstorm ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 1:21 AM · edited Thu, 27 September 2012 at 1:21 AM

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I like Miki 4 very much and here is my first image with her. I used Asian Beauties by Virtual_World on her. :) 



smallspace ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 1:24 AM

Well, ok.

"Thank(s) you for generously (or is that really "gernerously"?) giving away 2 free characters.

Now then...

What I really meant to say is that just like V4...who's base figure was also "free"...I'd be delighted to pay for a set of morphs equivalent to V4's Morphs++, which include all the features I mentioned.

Are we happy yet?

 

Quote - Smallspace, I believe the words you're looking for are "Thanks you for gernerously giving away 2 free characters"

So she isn't perfect. Look out your window. You won't see a perfect person out there.

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smallspace ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 1:57 AM · edited Thu, 27 September 2012 at 2:00 AM

"Some people would bitch if they were hung with new rope."

**Hmm...I don't know. I think I would bitch no what type of rope was used to hang me.
**

"There are these things called "morphs" with with figure, you can change the shape of the butt if it isn't to your fancy."

That's a bit of a stutter you've got there.

**I've already done some work on her butt with the morph tool...but, 1: I stand by my claim that she has an ugly butt and 2: there are no morphs included in the package that will fix it.
**

"The eyelashes as a separate figure were in response to customer input on Miki 2 or 3, I remember a number of requests for it."

Since I don't frequent either Smith Micro's or Content Paradise's forums, I was unaware that anyone had ever complained of it being an issue. I may have missed it, but I don't remember anyone bringing it up here either. Since, as I have now been informed, she does, indeed, have eyelashes built in, it become as much a non-issue as V4's eyebrow zone that hardly anyone uses.*

"If you don't like how the eyes and ears work, redo the rigging in the modeler of your choice."

Ahh. I guess that's your answer to any complaint..."I you don't like it, fix it yourself!" You assume I haven't already done so. Your mistake.*

*The exe installer is there for a reason. *

Unless it made a change to the actual poser exe file, it's not...certainly it adds nothing to the runtime that could not be handled with a regular zip file.

**
**

I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!


smallspace ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 2:19 AM

Oh my! I made a booboo! Is my face red!

Should read:

"Hmm...I don't know. I think I would bitch no MATTER what type of rope was used to hang me."

(just ignore that whole, "sutter" comment, if you please...but the rest of it stands)

I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!


monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 2:26 AM

Quote - > Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users.  Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

 

Come on, you know you wanna upgrade, you know I want you to upgrade, you know that Miki and Tyler want you to upgrade. ;-)

BTW - I read your post to our team today - it was really clever and made us giggle. Thank you for that.

Cooper

I was lucky that Poser 9 / Pro 2012 was the first version I've owned.

With all the money I now keep getting tempted to spend on content, there's no way I could afford to upgrade again right now. He he :laugh: Have you seen Dreamland Tom's latest model? It looks amazing 🤤

I'm just very thankful that SamTherapy's FANtastic Dalek figures are freebies. If he was able to charge for the totally awesome work he does on those, I'd be even lighter of pocket! I'd be a sucker for a good looking, splendidly rigged Dalek product any day 😉

 

 


monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 2:35 AM

Nice pointy pixie ears on her there Paganeagle, by the way... and that amber hair looks great Esther 👍


WandW ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:02 AM · edited Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:04 AM

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

That's gorgeous, Ted, but I was more concerned about getting those dogs into shoes... 😉

One thing I learmned from working on V4WM is that each person notices different things about a Figure.  I myself was concerned about the bending of the collars and shoulders, but somehow no one paid much mind to the elbows; it wasn't until after she was released that someone pointed out they could bend better; I even have test renders showing her bent elbows! (Miki 4's elbows are quite nice).

 

Quote - Here you go:

This is Miki 4 rendered in DazStudio.

 

That's a beautiful render!  Does she bend?

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toulouse2k ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:21 AM

I haven't tried in Daz yet. She does work well with aniBlock-to-Poser. I'll give it a try.


-Timberwolf- ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:30 AM

It would be interesting to see, what a GND version of Miki4 would look like ;-) . Well , I know Michelle is first. ;-)


monkeycloud ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:33 AM

Quote - It would be interesting to see, what a GND version of Miki4 would look like ;-) . Well , I know Michelle is first. ;-)

Totally 😉

I so hope that one is on the cards...


toulouse2k ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:36 AM · edited Thu, 27 September 2012 at 8:36 AM

Miki 4 does not pose nor bend properly in DS 4.5, at least in my quick tests


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paganeagle2001 ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 11:31 AM

AMAZING work!!!!!

All the ebst.

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Teyon ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 11:32 AM

Thanks! Sorry to hear she doesn't quite work in DS but you can't win 'em all I guess.


basicwiz ( ) posted Thu, 27 September 2012 at 11:45 AM · edited Thu, 27 September 2012 at 11:45 AM

Quote - Miki 4 does not pose nor bend properly in DS 4.5, at least in my quick tests

It says in Miki's documentation that it won't work in Daz Studio. I assume due to the extra bones in her rigging.


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