I'm having a problem with V4 morphs in Poser 9. Any morphs than I load into V4 figure either through a character morph pose or through individual morph targets do not show up under the figure. The only way to view the morph dials is by going to the vairious body parts. For example say I load the following morphs: breast size, waist size and hip size. In Poser 8 I could select the body and all the morphs would be listed and I could adjust them from the one place. In Poser 9 I have to select the chest to adjust the breast size, the abdomen to adjust the waist and the Hip to adjust the hip size. It takes more time and some morphs affect more than one body part. Is there a setting somewhere that would get the morphs to show under Body?  Also Elite morphs don't show at all. Help!

We are to assume that V4 was updated after each morph package was installed, correct?

First off never trust the updater to actually update. I used to have so much trouble with them.

Instead do the following:-

Go into your RuntimeLibraries folder.

You will see a folder called !DAZ, go into that folder.

Now look for this file:-

DzCreateExPFiles-V4

Double click that and it will update your V4.

It may be easier to install all your new morphs at the same time and then run the batch file once. Otherwise you have to do the above after every time you install a new morph set.

All the best.

LROG

Maybe I am not explaining this correctly, or morphs is not the right term.  What I am referring to is loading a character pose to V4.  In Poser 8 I would load V4.2 and from my poses load Mihrelle's Abbi character for example.  That loads all the morphs for the Abbi character.  I would select the body and adjust the dials to taste. In Poser 9 I do the same thing and it doesn't load all the morphs and those that do load don't apppear under Body, I have to go to each body part.  Problem is that certain morphs (I think that is the correct term), like inhale, affect both the chest and the abdomen.  But the morph dial only appears under the chest.  That causes a noticeable gap to appear between the chest and the abdomen.

Quote - First off never trust the updater to actually update. I used to have so much trouble with them.

Instead do the following:-

Go into your RuntimeLibraries folder.

You will see a folder called !DAZ, go into that folder.

Now look for this file:-

DzCreateExPFiles-V4

Double click that and it will update your V4.

It may be easier to install all your new morphs at the same time and then run the batch file once. Otherwise you have to do the above after every time you install a new morph set.

All the best.

LROG

Are you saying that I would need to do this one time with all the standard Daz V4 morphs and after that they will load correctly?  Hopefully I don't have to do this everything I load a new character.  I can't recall ever doing this with Poser 7 or 8.

John

It's a one time deal, no need to reload for each character.  If it was loading fine in P8, it should load fine in P9.  The only recommendation coming to mind is rebooting P9 and trying again.

BTW, did you link the P8 runtime to P9 or did you reload the character file into P9?

If you did a new install to a Poser 9 runtime, you will need to update.

Now, if you did that, you can install as many morph packs as you want for V4 and run the updater just once. It will find all the morph packs you have insatlled and update them.

It's a one off job per morph set. So, if you installed V4++Morphs, then you don't need to run the updater after you have run it for that set of morphs.

Now, a sneaky trick to save you some time.

Have different combinations ready to use.

Load up the Base V4, inject the ++Morphs, save back to your folder as:-

V4++Morphs

Do a new, and then load up your V4++Morphs cr2.

Up pops V4, ++morphs already injected.

If you want the Elite Morphs as well....

Load up the Base V4 (you always need to start from a base).

Inject ++ Morphs and then the Elite Morphs.

Save it back to your folder as:-

V4++Elite Morphs

This way you can save a lot of time loading and injecting morphs.

Same thing applies to M4 etc.

All the best.

LROG

Quote - It's a one time deal, no need to reload for each character.  If it was loading fine in P8, it should load fine in P9.  The only recommendation coming to mind is rebooting P9 and trying again.

BTW, did you link the P8 runtime to P9 or did you reload the character file into P9?

Both.  I have must of my V4 stuff in a Poser 7 runtime that I also used in Poser 8.  I have my M4 stuff in the Poser 8 runtime.  However I have the V4 and M4 figures in all three runtimes so I can get to them quickly. I have both runtimes linked to Poser 9.

Quote - If you did a new install to a Poser 9 runtime, you will need to update.

Now, if you did that, you can install as many morph packs as you want for V4 and run the updater just once. It will find all the morph packs you have insatlled and update them.

It's a one off job per morph set. So, if you installed V4++Morphs, then you don't need to run the updater after you have run it for that set of morphs.

All the best.

LROG

If I am understanding you correctly, I believe I did a new install to Poser 9. That is I installed V4 new into the Poser 9 runtime. However, I have V4 installed in my Poser 7 & 8 runtimes as well. I am having the problem no matter which runtime I use to load V4 into Poser 9.

One last question just to be sure that I am understanding correctly. If go to the !Daz folder and run the updater you mentioned will it  automatically find the all Daz morphs in the runtime? Does that include the Elite morphs and muscle morphs too? Or do I need to load V4 and install all the morphs first?  I seem to recall that there is a pose that will install all the morphs, although I never use that because there are so many.

Thanks for everyone's help on this.

The !DAZ folderbatch file installer will install all the morphs in the  current runtime that have not previously been added,

So, if you had all your morphs in that runtime and had already installed them via the updater, then if you added say the Elite morphs, when you ran the updater, it would ignore previous installed morphs and just add to the morph definitions the Elite morphs.

When doing a new instal of V4 to a runtime, install V4 base first, then add the morphs packs after.

All the best.

LROG

One addition. I know that I have V4 and the basic morphs loaded into Poser 9, but I can't recall (I'm not at my home computer) whether I also loaded the Elite and muscle morph packs.  Like I said, I mostly work out of the Poser 7 runtime with V4.2 since that is where I have all my V4 stuff.  Maybe that is the problem. I probably need to load the Elite and Muscle morph packs in Poser 9 and then run the updater.

The only problem I can foresee is the multiple installation of model in various runtimes.  That might cause conflicts when injecting morph characters.  Poser does conduct a search for necessary files and will load the first files it finds whether they are right, wrong or corrupted.  The updaters might also get confused.  If you still have older Poser versions available on your computer, it would be wiser to link your runtimes to a you current application and not reinstall any models unless you intend to totally uninstall previous installs and their runtimes.

Quote - The only problem I can foresee is the multiple installation of model in various runtimes.  That might cause conflicts when injecting morph characters.  Poser does conduct a search for necessary files and will load the first files it finds whether they are right, wrong or corrupted.  The updaters might also get confused.  If you still have older Poser versions available on your computer, it would be wiser to link your runtimes to a you current application and not reinstall any models unless you intend to totally uninstall previous installs and their runtimes.

I've got V4 and M4 (and freak, steph, girl, aiko, shefreak, and a bunch of other Daz morphs) in 2 external runtimes, both linked in PP2012. No problems. I can't see why P9 would be any different.

However, if I install new morphs into either of those runtimes, I do run the updater located in that runtime.

Yes, running the updater for each installation would be logical process considering it only targets that particular runtime.  It complicates the issue when keeping track of each installation.  Better to keep it simple and link all runtimes.

Quote - Yes, running the updater for each installation would be logical process considering it only targets that particular runtime.  It complicates the issue when keeping track of each installation.  Better to keep it simple and link all runtimes.

I've got at least a dozen runtimes. The reason I often have duplicate content is that every once in a while I realize that I need to re-organize, and it's easier just to reinstall any given runtime from scratch, than to try to find all the various files when deleting. But it's a big project, so I leave the old runtime that I'm re-installing linked (so I can still use it), until the the job is finished. It does mean, though, that when I'm loading old PZ3's, there may be a bit of a delay while Poser looks for the files, as they are in a different location. Otherwise, no problems.

Update-- Thanks to your help I have the problem partially fixed. I had installed the V4.2 character to Poser 9, but not the morphs. After I installed the morphs and ran the updated the morphs are showing correctly under body. The problem now is that the Elite morphs will still not show when characters are installed from another runtime and I have not been able to install the Elite morphs in Poser 9. When I try to install  into My Documents > Poser 9 Contents where the character is located the installer tells me that i must install into the directory where the Poser.exe is located. That is under the C://Progams(x86)/Smith Micro/Poser 9 directory. Then I get the message that file not found and the installation crashes.  I have verified that the Poser.exe is in that directory. I assume that the problem is that the executable file is in one directory and the V4.2 character is in another directory. Do you think that if I totally removed the V4.2 character and morphs from Poser 9 it would then upload correctly from the other runtime? It's just that then I would lose the weight-mapped V4 character too.

Although you can mess around with trying to put a dummy exe into the runtime location for the morphs, it will probably be easiest to just select Daz Studio as the program option on the installer and then just point the installer to the correct runtime.

I have seen it said that it won't alter the format of the files installed and it will keep the installer from lookig for the Poser. exe

Quote - Although you can mess around with trying to put a dummy exe into the runtime location for the morphs, it will probably be easiest to just select Daz Studio as the program option on the installer and then just point the installer to the correct runtime.

 

I have seen it said that it won't alter the format of the files installed and it will keep the installer from lookig for the Poser. exe

Thanks! I had my doubts, but it worked like a charm. Loaded character from the other runtime and all the morphs including the Elite morphs are now showing.