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Subject: Buying Reality 3 This Week ---- Some "More" Examples Please?


Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:27 PM · edited Thu, 13 February 2025 at 8:08 AM

Can someone who uses Reality 3 Post some more renders of what they've done with the program?

I'll be buying it this week so wanted to make sure it is really spectacular before purchasing it.

Thanks for anyone's help in advance with posting their renders with it.

 

 

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:35 PM · edited Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:46 PM
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Here's my latest. It's not super but I"m still learning. You might check at runtimedna. They have a gallery for reality and people have been posting there.


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Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:47 PM · edited Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:47 PM

Textures look nice in it ---- I like how that is so far.  Will check at Runtime and see. 😄

 

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Zanzo ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 6:53 PM

Anyone have a link to the Reality 3 gallery at RDNA? I found a "reality gallery" but I'm not sure if it's dedicated to the render engine reality or just renders that are realistic.


ashley9803 ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 7:21 PM

Quote - Anyone have a link to the Reality 3 gallery at RDNA? I found a "reality gallery" but I'm not sure if it's dedicated to the render engine reality or just renders that are realistic.

 

http://www.runtimedna.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=49


booksbydavid ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 7:22 PM

Here's the link for the Runtime Reality gallery page. It is for renders done with the Reality plugin

www.runtimedna.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=49

There's also a 'show us what you can do' sort of topic in the Reality forum at runtimedna as well.


Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 7:35 PM

That is absolutely awesome.  After seeing these, definitely buying it.  Well worth every penny from the looks of it. 

Gonna start a scene now I think and do it with/without reality to show the difference.  That is just TOO awesome! 😄

 

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LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 15 April 2013 at 11:50 PM · edited Tue, 16 April 2013 at 12:01 AM

Quote - Anyone have a link to the Reality 3 gallery at RDNA? I found a "reality gallery" but I'm not sure if it's dedicated to the render engine reality or just renders that are realistic.

Reality is NOT NOT NOT the render engine. Luxrender is. Realty is an exporter, bridge. It does no rendering whatsoever...a fallacy that's been running around since it first came out. Those pretty images you see? Yeah, it's LUXRENDER. Without it, Reality makes a dumb file you can't do anything with. LOL.

Reality gallery? I bet the Luxrender developers would get a kick outta that ;).

Laurie



ashley9803 ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 12:24 AM

The Reality gallery gives an insight into how well (or not) Reality handles Poser/Daz content, as opposed to a Lux gallery which wouldn't be Poser/Daz specific. That's why a specific gallery for that purpose is of interest to those thinking of buying Reality, and why it's called the Reality gallery and not the Lux gallery.


Vestmann ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 9:15 AM · edited Tue, 16 April 2013 at 9:19 AM

Just make sure you realize how long the render time is.  You'll need to get used to hours of render time. There is no quick render option when it comes to Luxrender.




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vitachick ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 9:46 AM

Still trying to get Reality3 to work with my Win7 64 bit comp. Window opens entitled Macros...Have posted to forum at Runtime

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bobvan ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 10:15 AM

One gets used to render times they are not that bad over 1500 renders in a approx 1 year


DustRider ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 4:11 PM

Johnny - just keep in mind that Reality 3 isn't that elusive make art button, but for those of us that are Poser light challenged - it's a dream come true. Your renders will typically take quite a while (in a relative sense, depending on what you are used to). Bobvan is one of the speed masters with Reality/Lux (using DS), so he could definitely give you some pointers on how to speed things up.

Just like with Poser, those who have mastered Reality and Lux produce some jaw dropping art work (I'm not one of them). For me, unlike with Poser, I can easily create good lighting with the included lights, because lights in Lux behave like lights in the real world. Even using HDRI for lighting is very simple with Reality/Lux.

I posted my first test render from Reality 3 and Lux here in my gallery, just click on the link in my sig line to easily get there (with the very creative title of "A Simple Test"). I was interested in seeing what could be done with Reality 3, basically straight out of the box. I added and placed 2 mesh lights in the scene. Other the that, I didn't do anything else to the scene other than export to Reality, and hit render. I did adjust the light intensities and other settings while it was rendering to get better lighting (one of the really great features of Lux - you can adjust light intensity and color while rendering!!!) It's definitely not a great lmage, it could use a lot more work and attention to detail. I think it is a great example of what can be done with a minimal amount of work using Reality/Lux.

One word of caution though - not all Poser mats will transfer to Reality/Lux well. Many vendors use a lot of "cheats" to get great looking materials in Poser. I have a render baking right now that initially some of the mats I wanted to use had baked in highlights, and simply did look that good. So I went back to the original mats for some things, and others I had to create and/or used Lux mats via Reality for others.

True, Reality 3 doesn't do any of the rendering. But then technically, Poser doesn't render anything either when using Firefly, Firefly does the rendering (originally an external render engine) - the materials editor/translator and render engine are just included with Poser.

Reality 3 "just" does all the heavy lifting to automatically convert your Poser textures (which can be quite a task, and sometimes just isn't possible), lights, and geometries to something Lux can render. It also provides a very well laid out and easy to use interface to tweak/optimize your materials, lights, volumetrics, etc. to improve upon the automatically converted mats if needed/desired. Reality 3 creates a file, or more accurately a series of files that LuxRender, a free and open source, high quality, unbiased renderer can use to create an image that may, or may not be considered art by the creator and/or the viewer. Without Reality 3, Poser 9/2012 files are just dumb files that mean noting to Lux. From what I have seen so far, the Reality/Lux combination seems to do an excelent job of making stunning images form Poser 9/2012 in the proper hands (but like Poser, I've seen a few that I wouldn't call that great too).

Without Reality, Poser 9/2012 users would have to jump through several major hoops to render in Lux, because Pose2Lux doesn't work in P9/PP2012. Plus, as mentioned before, the Reality interface is much more developed and easier to edit/tweak your materials than with Pose2Lux.

Of course, one might ask why would anyone want to use an external render engine when FireFly is capable of creating such beautiful renders? There are probably almost as many answers to this question as there are Reality 3 users. One obvious answer is caustics, FireFly still doesn't do caustics, which makes doing believable glass, jewels, fluids, etc, very difficult in Poser (and the reason I started using Carrara to render Poser content back in the Poser 4 days).  Another simple anwser could be "Because I can!". Many people just like to use new an different tools. Or maybe it's because someone really likes using open source tools, or wants to use linux/Lux for a render farm. Or, like in my case, because they have never been able to get their heads wrapped around lighting in Poser.

I can honestly say I've used Poser more in the last week, than in the last year thanks to Reality 3. Reality isn't for everyone, but IMVHO it's a great addition to the 3D tool kit at a great price. Your milage may vary.

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Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 5:36 PM

Thanks for your thoughts and opinions DustRider!  That is what I want in something, and it sounds really good.

I'm sure it will help me out alot, and looking forward to fooling around with it.  Will check out your Gallery image.  😄

 

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DustRider ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 5:41 PM

Good luck and have fun - I haven't had this much fun with Poser in years!!!

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Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 6:27 PM

That's really good to hear.  I'm looking forward to it.  Now gotta work on a cool scene to put together with it.  Your image came out great too by the way. 😄

 

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bobvan ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 6:57 PM · edited Tue, 16 April 2013 at 6:58 PM

LOL @ speedmaster mostly material adjustments and strategic light placement and PS is my friend! Its funny to read ppl echoing the same frustrations I had a year ago. My next challenge is trying win 8 LOL but it will be set up to run like 7...


Eric Walters ( ) posted Tue, 16 April 2013 at 8:09 PM

Luxrender CAN "blow the doors" off of Poser renders. Many that  I am seeing could easily be done with Poser2012. Not a criticism-just an observation- I suppose it is part of learning-I expect to make my own Lux renders that could have been rendered in Poser-before I figure things out. :-)



vilters ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 3:54 AM · edited Wed, 17 April 2013 at 3:57 AM

If you are good with the standard Poser materials and lights and render engine, you will be good at Reality / Lux.

If standard poser materials, lights and render engine are giving you lots of trouble, so will another render engine.

You have to understand what all the nodes and lgihts do in your scene.

And no, material and light setups, are NOT always interchangable between all the different render engines.

As pointed out above, a lot of the "cheeting" that had been done in the past has to be removed from the material room.

You can ony do that if you know exactly what you are doing.
And that is the learning curve to go from one render engine to another render engine. 

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Mazak ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 4:49 AM

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Here are my latest Reality3 renders.

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Tip: Most of them has only one single light in scene. Do not use Poser lights; use the mesh lights, that came with Reality.

 

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ItWasNotAvailable ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 5:28 AM

 

"Without Reality, Poser 9/2012 users would have to jump through several major hoops to render in Lux, because Pose2Lux doesn't work in P9/PP2012. Plus, as mentioned before, the Reality interface is much more developed and easier to edit/tweak your materials than with Pose2Lux."

 Just a wee note one that. pose2Lux does work in PP2012 as I am using it. You probably need the most recent version but it works like a charm. Also be aware that for Reality 3 all sales are final.  


ItWasNotAvailable ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 7:06 AM

I couldn't edit my previous post anymore. Here is a screen shot using PP 2012 and pose2Lux. Now, this is not me telling you to stay off Reality but only showing that the free bridge also works and it can give you the possibility to play with Luxrender as this is what you need to test before maybe getting a pay for version...

That's it from me...Pose2Lux-PP2012.

 

 


Cheers ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 9:52 AM

I actually think people are being miss-guided as far as what Luxrender can do for a charcter, or even architectural/landscape render. Yes it will give you realistic lighting, but that alone wont give you a realistic character. The devil is in the detail - the displacement and colour variation in the skin from pores, muscle tone, veins, wrinkles, blushing etc.

One thing that I find when looking at the majority market place items here or anywhere else (especially skin textures), is that they almost all have that perfectly smooth, unblemished skin, stylized characters with just variations on makeup. Perfection isn't realism...even in Luxrender.

Some venders, have recognized this and are trying to address it, Zev0 here and Syyd over at RDNA spring to mind. For me imperfection, grunge, dirt etc, etc add far more realism, then any render engine.

 

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vilters ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 10:12 AM

True.
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hornet3d ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 4:08 PM
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I have put a couple of renders in my gallery and in another thread mustang2011 pointed at images in his gallery.  I think he uses reality 2 with Daz Studio but it will give you some idea of what Luxrender can do and worth a look.  I was impressed with what I saw there.

The downside of speed always comes up, what does not get the same coverage is the fact you can suspend a render and resume from that point days later and you can change the things like the tone mapping and and colour temperature during the render, so it is a question of swings and roundabouts.  Trying to work out if Firefly or Luxrender is better is a pointless execise it depends on the user but Luxrender is worth playing with in my opinion.

 

The only other suggestion I would make is use the non-OpenCL version of Luxrender, at least at the start.  My videocard supports OpenCL but the driver must be flaky as my machine 'Bluescreens' when I use it.  That said from what I remeber of your build you had a high spec pro graphics card so you may not have the issue and if it is stable it should shorten your render times.

 

 

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Wed, 17 April 2013 at 10:09 PM

I hope no one loses any enthusiasm from my comments- I say go for it and have fun!

It certainly looks like the Reality exporter works well.

Quote - Luxrender CAN "blow the doors" off of Poser renders. Many that  I am seeing could easily be done with Poser2012. Not a criticism-just an observation- I suppose it is part of learning-I expect to make my own Lux renders that could have been rendered in Poser-before I figure things out. :-)



acrionx ( ) posted Sun, 18 January 2015 at 7:50 PM · edited Sun, 18 January 2015 at 7:52 PM

This was done with Pose2Lux.

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