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headwax. ( ) posted Tue, 03 September 2013 at 11:56 PM

ha ha :) yes I'd prefer Dart wasn't reffered to as a fan boy etc because he really is a good bloke, JM is just a misunderstood genius, and you are the wabble wouser :)


jonstark ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 12:28 AM

Quote - JM is just a misunderstood genius

 

Yes exactly: Absolutely no one - anywhere - has ever understood him to be a genius  ;)

 


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 12:35 AM

Yes, if you go and check any of the old horror flicks I'm the lead guy with the torch and pitch fork.  "are you with me"!

Hey, that reminds me. I started a scene using creech { http://www.yurdigital.com/catalog/1859-creech-stand-alone-poser-figure }, then got flumixed becaue I couldn't get all the elements in to the scene on my old comp. Well 8 surface replicators for swamp plants and dead trees; I think. Got the house boat in then started getting memory allocation errors when I tried to add the first person; V4.


tsarist ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 8:39 AM

Quote - ha ha :) yes I'd prefer Dart wasn't reffered to as a fan boy etc because he really is a good bloke, JM is just a misunderstood genius, and you are the wabble wouser :)

You're right. Dart is a good sort. No doubt about that.

He's just a tad too enthusiastic sometimes.

Hell, I'm dragging right now and WISH I could steal a fraction of his energy.


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:39 AM

Quote - > Quote - ha ha :) yes I'd prefer Dart wasn't reffered to as a fan boy etc because he really is a good bloke, JM is just a misunderstood genius, and you are the wabble wouser :)

You're right. Dart is a good sort. No doubt about that.

He's just a tad too enthusiastic sometimes.

Hell, I'm dragging right now and WISH I could steal a fraction of his energy.

With you on that. With my general disposition it's hard for me to get that worked up about anything, in a good way. Life in general has tought me to be pesimistic, and continualy reenforces that. Hoping for the best and expecting the worst means never being disapointed.

As in. I love women, the smell of powder and perfum just makes my knees weak. But I apparently have very bad taste in women, I just keep ending up with psicopathes. So I am a bachlor not even looking for a woman, but not whilling to believe thay are all bat **** crazy.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:44 AM

Quote - > Quote - JM is just a misunderstood genius

 

Yes exactly: Absolutely no one - anywhere - has ever understood him to be a genius  ;)

 

 

Ha, ha!!!

I never understood him...genius or otherwise. Mostly otherwise.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:47 AM

Quote - Ha ha, I read his 'second ' ? book , was great for the first few chapters.In it the king says, about an unsatisfactory General, to paraphrase:

"Throw that man away!"

I'd love to say that about several people. I'd also love a horde of minions who would make it so. :)

That's it! I'm asking for minions for Christmas.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:48 AM

Quote - Yes, if you go and check any of the old horror flicks I'm the lead guy with the torch and pitch fork.  "are you with me"!

 

I'm the guy that says, "but they went THAT way!"


tsarist ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 6:14 PM

It's kind of funny how we have Daz people coming over here "setting the record straight" when things are CLEARLY not going right.

The attitude seems to be that we  want Carrara to fail or some such nonsense.

The TRUTH is we want Carrara to succeed. We want a successful C8.5, 9, 10 and so forth.

We also want to be able to afford it and to have the releases be stable.

Not paying for bug fixes wouldn't be too much to ask.

Unless we pay a nominal fee, which $85 is not.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:29 PM

I in no way want Carrara to fail. I've said it before, I use Carrara 8.1 Pro every day. I'm still learning things about it and I enjoy it. I'd hate to see anything happen to it.

On the other hand, I have no use for Genesis or any of the Genesis content related improvements made to the current release. And I don't animate, so while the improvements to animation are great, I don't need them.

I really wanted work done to improve dynamic hair and subsurface scattering, and maybe some form of dynamic cloth that didn't take forever to use. I'd love to see dynamic hair show up in multi layer renders. I always have to touch up multipass renders because the dynamic hair doesn't show up. I hate that.

And, yeah, that final 'nominal' price tag gave me sticker shock. I am really afraid to see what 9 is going to cost.


tsarist ( ) posted Wed, 04 September 2013 at 9:55 PM

Books (or anyone else)

 

Has anyone seen Andy (3D Age)? I PM'd him over at Daz a few days ago, but haven't heard a thing. He and I have PM'd many times over the years and I have never known him to take more than 24 hours to get back to me.

A little concerned.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 7:54 AM · edited Thu, 05 September 2013 at 7:55 AM

I think everyone is. At first I figured he was discusted with JM. But I haven't seen hide nor hair of him anyware. Hope he is in good health and not having serious life issues.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:41 AM

Haven't heard anything from Andy. He was awol for a while a year or so ago, and I remember folks being quite disturbed. I think in the end it turned out that real life had reared its ugly head in some form (I can't remember now). Hopefully, that's the case now.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:42 AM · edited Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:53 AM

thoromyr poke through using autofit is something I have been complaing about since the C8.5 beta was released. Nice to see how well DAZ has fixed it.

In fact most of the stuff on the "known issues" list has been known for quite some time. I just love the job DAZ is doing fixing those issues in that amount of time. That is the sort of stuff that makes C8.5 worth the $285 price tag DAZ has put on it.

In fact, from the looks of it, DAZ hasn't fixed any of the bugs in Carrara that were in the last beta releace.

Here is an interesting read for people that missed it http://carraracafe.com/forum-3/?cid=1&show=422

The issues with trying to fix the poke through is an example of why C8.5 is a step down from C8.1. Or at least why Genesis is a step down from mil4. Once clothes go through autofit forget modeling in the assembly room. Another issue with C8.5 that has been there since it's first release.

But in 2 years of development DAZ has fixed so many bugs that were in the initial release, they fixed DUF import and...... and....... and...... give me a minute I'll think of another. Any way DAZ has done such a great job of fixing so many bugs introed in C8.5, and done such a good job of fixing the old on going issues with carrara that rebuying carrara to get the .5 update is well worth the $285 price tag


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 10:45 AM

OK, read the Carrara Cafe thread. You seriously got warnings from mods for telling newbies how to manually install content? That's crazy!

And the issues with the new 8.5. I really didn't keep up with all the discussion on the beta, but I'm now seeing an every growing list of issues crop up as I read through posts at the DAZ Carrara forum. The price issue was what sent the other way on 8.5, but also reading the troubles some have had makes me glad I'm not fighting with it now. Sure, their are people not having any problems, so far, but there are plenty who are. I've read enough to see that the problems aren't isolated or hardware related.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 1:32 PM

If people are not having issues, they aren't really using it. All it takes is G1, and any set for mil4 clothes. I used it for 2 years, more often then not I had to give up on genesis and go back to the mil4 figures. If the big draw to C8.5 is genesis, genesis and autofit really needed to work much, much better. That is why Genesis compatability was not part of it for me, it didn't work nearly as well as Studio.

Most of my posts about DIM and CMS got pulled. DAZ seems to be trying to convince users that they are the best thing since sliced bread. I guess if you are just using Studio, genesis and all new content they might be. But people having more issues with DIM and CMS then anyone ever had with any other part of Studio to date.

Every post I made about G1 being out of development and my evidence to prove it got pulled, and why I was banned. The fact is nothing has been done with G1 since release 2 years ago but stating facts DAZ doesn't want the general public to realize is bannable.

I got banned for telling the truth. I got banned for repeating facts after being told not to. I got banned for pointing out posts of mine that had been pulled for telling the truth. The truth is not something DAZ wants on it's forums.

Welcome to the DAZ forums, the communest russia of the content brokerverse. I'm not the only one, I'd love to hear from Holly.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:07 PM

Yeah, I miss Holly. Carrara need her brand of sassy.

And I'm still reading post from people having a lot of difficulty with DIM. I'm glad I never played with it.


tsarist ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:39 PM

Quote - Yeah, I miss Holly. Carrara need her brand of sassy.

The CarraraCafe needs her too. She put the new forums together. I'm not really a big fan of the Cafe's new look and functionality(the browser at work can't navigate it at all) but I am grateful for her hard work.

Quote - And I'm still reading post from people having a lot of difficulty with DIM. I'm glad I never played with it.

DIM seemed like a bad idea from day one. I said that and CMS were bad news and Daz deleted those posts. Now I read about problems with those daily.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:41 PM

Just tried to post in the DAZ Carrara .5 announcement thread. Every time I hit the 'submit' button, it sends me to my account and does not show my post. I've tried several times. No luck.

How strange is that?


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 9:43 PM

Quote - > Quote - Yeah, I miss Holly. Carrara need her brand of sassy.

The CarraraCafe needs her too. She put the new forums together. I'm not really a big fan of the Cafe's new look and functionality(the browser at work can't navigate it at all) but I am grateful for her hard work.

Quote - And I'm still reading post from people having a lot of difficulty with DIM. I'm glad I never played with it.

DIM seemed like a bad idea from day one. I said that and CMS were bad news and Daz deleted those posts. Now I read about problems with those daily.

Yeah, I tried to post at the Cafe yesterday, but it wouldn't show the post.

Regarding just about any problem with DAZ, if we don't talk about it, it's not a problem.


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 10:32 PM

oh the post will be there most of the time, yuou just need to say your name backwards, log in then log out then count your cookies and sit in the mantra position and it will magically appear - yes I wish holly would return as well as andy


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 10:34 PM

Quote - Just tried to post in the DAZ Carrara .5 announcement thread. Every time I hit the 'submit' button, it sends me to my account and does not show my post. I've tried several times. No luck.

How strange is that?

 

hmm, you are probably black listed for being manstan's friend :)

this has happened to me sometimes - maybe swap to google chrome or vice versa?


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 05 September 2013 at 10:54 PM

Well Give DAZ a few years and soon you wont even need to shop. Just open studio and there is new content DAZ has downloaded and installed for you, based on your past purches, and charged to your account. Of coarse there will be a nice % discount showing in your order. And you will be so happy, and thanking DAZ, and telling them how great this new way to acumulate content is.

Doesn't sound plausable, try this.

You open Studio, load G3Us. Do a search of your smart content for a pair of pants. Drop them on G3Us and a popup appears that tells you about the latest release of new mats for those pants and they are on sale now. Order through Studio and receave another 10% off. So you purches, download and install all from Studio.

That sound more plausable?

Ok, try this.

You're shopping as DAZ, buy a set of workclothes for G3Us, it this kicks on DIM that downloads and installs it, which wakes up CMS that adds it to the list then opens and loads it in Studio so you can see your purches in all it's glory.

Ya, gets a bit more plauseable all the time. Scary isn't it.

Genesis 3 unisex, the next figure after G2M. Yes DAZ, scary isn't it 

 


headwax. ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 12:06 AM

great ideas! you should be working for Daz you know.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 9:35 AM

Quote - oh the post will be there most of the time, yuou just need to say your name backwards, log in then log out then count your cookies and sit in the mantra position and it will magically appear - yes I wish holly would return as well as andy

All that gets me is tongue tied and a sore back...ouch. Last time I listen to you.

And I still miss Holly and Andy. :(


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 9:44 AM

Quote - Well Give DAZ a few years and soon you wont even need to shop. Just open studio and there is new content DAZ has downloaded and installed for you, based on your past purches, and charged to your account. Of coarse there will be a nice % discount showing in your order. And you will be so happy, and thanking DAZ, and telling them how great this new way to acumulate content is.

Doesn't sound plausable, try this.

You open Studio, load G3Us. Do a search of your smart content for a pair of pants. Drop them on G3Us and a popup appears that tells you about the latest release of new mats for those pants and they are on sale now. Order through Studio and receave another 10% off. So you purches, download and install all from Studio.

That sound more plausable?

Ok, try this.

You're shopping as DAZ, buy a set of workclothes for G3Us, it this kicks on DIM that downloads and installs it, which wakes up CMS that adds it to the list then opens and loads it in Studio so you can see your purches in all it's glory.

Ya, gets a bit more plauseable all the time. Scary isn't it.

Genesis 3 unisex, the next figure after G2M. Yes DAZ, scary isn't it 

 

When do the warm and fuzzy theories start? You're starting to give me nightmares.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 9:45 AM

Quote - great ideas! you should be working for Daz you know.

Doesn't he?


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 10:03 AM · edited Fri, 06 September 2013 at 10:05 AM

Someone tell staticdrifter s/hes got a fan. S/he is saying the exact same thing I have been saying right along. But if I had been me saying it on the DAZ forum you never would have seen the posts. It's called moderator bias.

Maybe if we had more suportive, united carraraest DAZ wouldn't be screwing us. I'll point back to the C6.5 update for the last time Carraraests were actually united.

Could someone tell dartanback I have never had issues with any of the people at DAZ; well 1. It's DAZ the company that is, well maybe not evil but on the down side of scrupulous. Thing is these desisions are made by someone, and supported by others. Bad ideas are put in to busness by good people that wont stand up and say its wrong.

"if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem"


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 10:54 AM

Yeah, I find myself cheering for staticdrifter, too.

I'd love to pass on your messages, but the DAZ forum doesn't seem to like me at the moment. I can read, but the 'submit' post button sends me straight to 'my account'. Strange, but true.


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 12:01 PM

Could some one do me a favor and drop my C7 wanted list in the C9 request thread lol

For C7 I'd relaly like to see much better atmospherics. Maybe I was spoiled by Terragen but Carrara's atmospherics are real weak.

I'd really like to see dynaimc clothing, this jumping back and forth to poser5 via transposer gets to be a PITA. I'd really rather do my dynaimcs in carrara, it's easyier to get it to match the scene.

I'd also like to be able to duplicate firgure formated objects. I mean duplicating regular objects is simple and easy. But lets say I have street lights or something to make a row of down the street, with .obj it's easy but if they are in the figure format; cr2{?}, I have to just load, align, load, align and it takes forever to get a row of them, and real hard to get them lined up.

Ya, they discontinued transposer after C6. Not because there was any issues, just because it worked with Poser.


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 12:13 PM · edited Fri, 06 September 2013 at 12:21 PM

Could some one tell scottidog2 that DAZ only wants you to use DIM so good luck getting help trying to install it manually on a mac.

Genesis items go in the "my library" folder that studio makes when you install it. C8.5 should auto up the "my library" folder if you have studio installed. Unless you are using DIM, then it's a different folder name, in a different place.

On a PC it's in my documents, no clue about a mac.

No you don't have to install Studio, unless you actully want to use genesis.

Note you can set up your own Studio content folder then just add it to your carrara browser; I forget which type you have to chose on adding the content folder.

But as Fed up as it is to install content I couldn't guess where the C8.5 might put or look for it.

Welcome to DAZ where we make content installation as complex and confusing as posable to be sure you use DIM and CMS.

fun fun fun


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 4:29 PM

I'mmm uuup

 

 

 


tsarist ( ) posted Fri, 06 September 2013 at 8:17 PM

Quote - Someone tell staticdrifter s/hes got a fan. S/he is saying the exact same thing I have been saying right along. But if I had been me saying it on the DAZ forum you never would have seen the posts. It's called moderator bias.

I have been reading and supporting staticdrifter too. I think the reason Static has been left alone is that poster doesn't have the same kind of following or support as others do. That's my thought anyway.

I post something and I get a few people agreeing, hell the whole thread might get locked. It's happened before. 

Stan says something his posts vanish, REAL quick.

So, I have been quietly supporting what Staticdrifter has been saying. Just hoping some of the message gets through to more Carraraists.

P.S. Also, it could be because so many Daz workers have been over here, they realise the heavy moderation is gaining attention. They might guess they need a little opposition to go with all that cheerleading.

Just my thoughts.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 07 September 2013 at 9:01 AM

Some one tell Fank I don't know what he is doing wrong, but check the elements in his scenes. I very rarly had any issue with DUF, even dynamic clothing animations came through. Does Frank use a Mac?

Some one remind dartenback that when Studio 4 was origenally released it was not free, but a united Studio user front ended that. Studio is free now only because of public out cry. I expect studio5 out by Xmas and it quite likely wont be free; at least the pro version with the most common plugins wont be. Studio 5 standard will be free but very limited.

Does dartanback wear a helmit or are the ceilings padded? I mean he coined the term "gratingly happy" positivism so overzealous as to ware on ones nerves.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sat, 07 September 2013 at 4:20 PM

Still can't post over at the DAZ forums. Bizarre. You don't think they banned me when I wasn't looking?

Keep coming across posts I want to reply to, and I can't. Sad. :(


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 07 September 2013 at 10:12 PM

It's only paranoia if people aren't out to get you.


tsarist ( ) posted Sat, 07 September 2013 at 10:33 PM

Quote - Some one remind dartenback that when Studio 4 was origenally released it was not free, but a united Studio user front ended that. Studio is free now only because of public out cry. I expect studio5 out by Xmas and it quite likely wont be free; at least the pro version with the most common plugins wont be. Studio 5 standard will be free but very limited.

Actually, Studio 3 Pro wasn't free either. I remember buying it on launch day. It didn't work quite right and the autofit feature (or whatever it was called) didn't work nearly as well as was claimed.

I never have really used DS3A all that much. The rare times I use D|S, I use DS 2.4. The most stable release they've had.

I think the company started going down hill when they started charging for Studio. I have DS4Pro and DS4.5Pro, but haven't downloaded them, much less installed them.

I believe DS5 will be free because Daz will had to have learned its lesson, at least on this front.

Stan, I'm sure you remember the multiple angry threads last time round?


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 08 September 2013 at 8:58 AM

Yes. I believe that was my second banning

But I'll have to disagree, evidence shows DAZ does not learn from the past. DAZ just sees it as a failed attempt and trys again later, Hence $285 for the carrara .5 update. And as you can see it worked. So I have no doubt DAZ will try to, and probibly succeed this time, in charging for Studio. As I said, maybe not Studio5 standard, but defenetly studio5 pro. Of coarse if DAZ has any sence they wont. They will just have Studio 5 and a pro plugins pack, or 2. Maybe "artist" plugins and "pro" plugins. None the less DAZ is being run by pro marketers that could make a profit off a rabbit corpse.

When Studio 3 got the figure set up tools it stopped being a sales gimmick for me and finally became a usable tool. I used DS3 a lot, it was an integeral part of my carrara suport team  

Then we got Studio 4, with genesis it was a game changer. Then DAZ fumbeled the ball. I haven't used studio4 near as much as I did DS3. Since release I have seen no improvements in genesis or autofit, which was what made studio4 the game changer. Yes Studio 4 has gotten updates; for free, but I don't see where they have improved what I used studio for.

I used studio 4 for what wasn't in carrara for using genesis. Mostly the selectable uvmapping. Now I was quite happy when C8.5b got the update so DUF worked to get dynamic clothing sims from studio to carrara for staging. Problem is something happen to the optitex dynaimc sim and the dynamic clothing does not work nearly as well as it did in DS3. I think I was up to 24-28 trys and still nothing usable in the end.

I've come to the opinion DAZ no longer has developers on site and is now subcontracting out app development. Ether that or thier developmental staff is down to a bair minimum. Remember when DS3 was getting practically weekly updates? Yes, it was a PITA, but the development was quite dynamic. Things were getting done. That was a bit over 2 years ago and development has slowed to a painful crawl since, so slow as to give the impression there is no development, at all, going on.

It seems DAZ has turned to PAs to provide work arounds for the issues in autofit and genesis, then charging us for said work arounds. So why fix the issues when people will pay for a work around. Even the next step in genesis, one that fixes many of the issues with genesis, was done by a PA, not DAZ. There are morphs out now that are workarounds for the issues with autofit, and DAZ is charging you for them, rather then fixing autofit. There is no profit in fixing the issues, there is a profit in selling you the workarounds. See my tirade on the carraracafe about encouraging incompatence.

But this is moot for me at the moment. I didn't update carrara so I have no use for Studio 4; or the plugins I wanted for it, or genesis/G2F; so no need to buy anything for them. Not upgrading carrara has saved me far more money then just the cost of the upgrade.

Thanks for way over pricing the C8.5 update DAZ, you have saved me money I can spend elsewhere. As in Lisa is my favorite organics artest. I have a lot of lisa's botanicals, and want more, but she isn't at DAZ now. One of the things I see lacking in many pitures, and I usually add as details to an outdoor scene, is birds. Ken isn't with DAZ any more ether; and I want his shore birds pack. 

Hell if Stefan and Jack took thier content out of DAZ, I'd have little reason to shop there; at least for big ticket items. Seems most everything else at DAZ I might want is in the $3 bin.

And as much as I am in awe of Howies scenes, I can do that. In fact I have been contemplating building a setting/scene to see if maybe I actually could be a PA, I mean I have been at this long enough that my skill should be of that calibar; should be    .

What can I say. I'm an insomniac. In 5 days I managed to get a bit less then 20 hours of sleep; 16-18. Finally got a good solid 5 lastnight, so feeling good today. 


tsarist ( ) posted Sun, 08 September 2013 at 4:46 PM

Quote - But I'll have to disagree, evidence shows DAZ does not learn from the past. DAZ just sees it as a failed attempt and trys again later, Hence $285 for the carrara .5 update. And as you can see it worked. So I have no doubt DAZ will try to, and probibly succeed this time, in charging for Studio. As I said, maybe not Studio5 standard, but defenetly studio5 pro. Of coarse if DAZ has any sence they wont. They will just have Studio 5 and a pro plugins pack, or 2. Maybe "artist" plugins and "pro" plugins. None the less DAZ is being run by pro marketers that could make a profit off a rabbit corpse.

You may be right Stan.

You know, It seems to me giving away DS4.5Pro was one of the smartest things they ever did. It put Genesis and other creative tools in the hands of a lot of people. What stopped me from loading it up on my machine was seeing all the problems people were having.

Quote - When Studio 3 got the figure set up tools it stopped being a sales gimmick for me and finally became a usable tool. I used DS3 a lot, it was an integeral part of my carrara suport team

I bought DS3A when it came out. What made the sale for me was firstly how well DS2.3 worked for me. At the time, I was making my transition to Carrara, but I was straddling the fence. The morph follower (or whatever it was called) was a big attraction to me. I thought it would help me fit clothes from V3 to V4. It didn't really do that. I still don't know how they got a M3 suit onto F3 in the promo for DS3A.

I basically use D|S for setting up my animations. I never use Optitex Dynamic Cloth and I don't do anything to the UV maps. So, even though I have DS3A, I only open DS2.3 and even then just to scan new items into the runtime. Carrara is my main workhorse.

 

Quote - Then we got Studio 4, with genesis it was a game changer. Then DAZ fumbeled the ball. I haven't used studio4 near as much as I did DS3. Since release I have seen no improvements in genesis or autofit, which was what made studio4 the game changer. Yes Studio 4 has gotten updates; for free, but I don't see where they have improved what I used studio for. I used studio 4 for what wasn't in carrara for using genesis. Mostly the selectable uvmapping. Now I was quite happy when C8.5b got the update so DUF worked to get dynamic clothing sims from studio to carrara for staging. Problem is something happen to the optitex dynaimc sim and the dynamic clothing does not work nearly as well as it did in DS3. I think I was up to 24-28 trys and still nothing usable in the end.

I have said it before (and had my posts deleted when others started supporting my comments) and I'll say it again. Genesis is an interesting piece of technology, but it was a step made way too soon. We should have had a V5 that was at the least a V4 with all the fixes (Many of which can be bought at Rendo) and some other innovations that could have been run natively to DS and Carrara. I twould have created less confusion and help avoid the split in the market we are now dealing with. DAZ would have made good money on the improved figure from clothing, poses. etc.

Also, DAZ could have tested it's weight mapping by creating a Weight Mapped Vicky, like the one for Poser.

We should just NOW be getting Genesis 1. This way they could have taken their time and gotten it right instead of having to contend with angry people whose autofits didn't work, etc. They might have been able to avoid the costly Poser/Daz split that happened or at least made the split less painful.

Quote - It seems DAZ has turned to PAs to provide work arounds for the issues in autofit and genesis, then charging us for said work arounds. So why fix the issues when people will pay for a work around. Even the next step in genesis, one that fixes many of the issues with genesis, was done by a PA, not DAZ. There are morphs out now that are workarounds for the issues with autofit, and DAZ is charging you for them, rather then fixing autofit. There is no profit in fixing the issues, there is a profit in selling you the workarounds. See my tirade on the carraracafe about encouraging incompatence.

That does seem like a dodgy business practise. The CarraraCafe is kind of hard for me to navigate from this computer. I'll have to look at your tirad later.

Quote - Thanks for way over pricing the C8.5 update DAZ, you have saved me money I can spend elsewhere. As in Lisa is my favorite organics artest. I have a lot of lisa's botanicals, and want more, but she isn't at DAZ now. One of the things I see lacking in many pitures, and I usually add as details to an outdoor scene, is birds. Ken isn't with DAZ any more ether; and I want his shore birds pack. Hell if Stefan and Jack took thier content out of DAZ, I'd have little reason to shop there; at least for big ticket items. Seems most everything else at DAZ I might want is in the $3 bin.

I like Lisa's stuff, but don't use it very often (hard to believe she's gone). I don't have Ken's birds. I'm not even sure if they work in Carrara or not.

Stefan and Jack are two I put to work often. Nightshift, GoFigure, Posermocap, DzFire and a handful of others are my reason for being there these days. I hope they don't lose anymore vendors.

I like the $2 bin stuff, but they really screwed that whole thing up with the "value" category where price goes up after a couple weeks. It didn't force me to spend more money. It forces me to decide whether I want something now or let it go forever. A lot of us came out against this bad move, but we were shouted down by the cheerleaders and moderated into submission.

Quote - What can I say. I'm an insomniac. In 5 days I managed to get a bit less then 20 hours of sleep; 16-18. Finally got a good solid 5 lastnight, so feeling good today.

You too? Yeah, insomnia is a bitch. I got a dodgy 3 hours last night, so I'm trying to figure out how to steal some energy from Dartanbeck.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 8:07 AM

"we were shouted down by the cheerleaders and moderated into submission".

Yes, that seems to be the way of DAZ now.

All I have for birds is the songbird remix http://hivewire3d.com/songbird-remix.html . Nice for common birds but I'd like to have Ken Gilliland's bundles from hivewire. I could have used  http://hivewire3d.com/songbird-remix-seabirds-2.html? for that last piece and http://hivewire3d.com/songbird-remix-shorebirds-wading-birds.html would be nice for this swamp scene I'm working on now.

I'm also using lisa's cattails and a few other grasses for the swamp area, and carrara tress in the back ground, in the scene I am working now.

I've been a short, light, uneasy sleeper since I was a kid. Runs in the family. 6 hours is a great nights sleep for me. As a kid bed time was 9PM. If I go to bed at 9PM I'm up at 3AM. If I got up to play I was in trouble, so I layed in bed and read a lot as a kid. Got a nephew that is the same way, but he gets up at 3AM goes in the living room and turns on the TV.

Part of the reason I drank so much in my 20's was so I could go to and stay asleep for a while.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 10:51 AM

Looks like Holly has been working on the carrarcafe, y'all might want to check it. I've got a few really embarising rants there as well as what I am up to now.

You think I'm kidding when I say put a woman on the job? DAZ could benefit by putting more woman on the job; women do good work and men will work harder to show off.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 12:20 PM

http://carraracafe.com/carrara-8-5-pro-is-out-time-limited-upgrade-price-is-85-5-includes-v5m5-pro-bundles-too/

$85.50 my lilly white Tshirt I like to ware the the weather cools down.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 8:57 PM

Everybody always overlooks that extra 24 and some change they have to pay to get that AWESOME 85.50. Unless, of course, you're already in the PC.

I just can't see how paying 25 bucks so I can get something for 85.50 is a good deal when I think the 85.50 itself is too much. Maybe I'm just getting old.


headwax. ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 10:12 PM

Well, in The pC cl;ub, you get a free model every month for 12 months that you never knew you didn't want :) And you get a voucher for 6 dollars that you can spend hours of enjoyment trying to figure out what you can buy that you never bought before because your need for it is still the same :)

 

Now don't forget to vote for Manstan in the challenge!

Seriously, the PC club isn't that bad..... if only I wanted some of the stuff they sell .... :(

:)

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manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 11:01 PM

If I join the Pclub I wont have enough left to get the .5 update, so it sort of defeats the purpose lol.


headwax. ( ) posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 11:08 PM

what we need is Daz to set up a loan account where they charge you a nominal rate of interest say 25 percent to borrow money to buy their things :)

but seriously, they should employ you as the 8.5 consultant to advise purchasers of said update on how to use it .....

 


manleystanley ( ) posted Tue, 10 September 2013 at 10:34 AM

Actually I am still under NDA with DAZ. I was a DAZ alpha tester for Hex 2.5. But that was a while back.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Tue, 10 September 2013 at 10:54 AM

Quote - Well, in The pC cl;ub, you get a free model every month for 12 months that you never knew you didn't want :) And you get a voucher for 6 dollars that you can spend hours of enjoyment trying to figure out what you can buy that you never bought before because your need for it is still the same :)

 

Now don't forget to vote for Manstan in the challenge!

Seriously, the PC club isn't that bad..... if only I wanted some of the stuff they sell .... :(

:)

.

Wow! I stopped being a PC member for those very reasons. Amazing. :)

And, btw, I'm finally able to post at DAZ. I voted. It was harder than I thought it would be. Lots of great images there.


manleystanley ( ) posted Tue, 10 September 2013 at 12:13 PM

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/28750/

Some one might want to check C8.5 but after it finally importing an aniblock in C8.1 I found out it wont import aniblocks back to back. As in it just over lays the previous. I'm still sort of playing with it, but it seems fairly worthless to me, I supose I could convert to NLA and make a library that way.


araneldon ( ) posted Wed, 11 September 2013 at 7:16 AM

Quote - Still can't post over at the DAZ forums. Bizarre. You don't think they banned me when I wasn't looking? Keep coming across posts I want to reply to, and I can't. Sad. :(

I had issues like this, using Firefox.

Try this:

  1. log out if you're logged in

  2. go to the store, http://daz3d.com/ or whatever

  3. Log In, then try to post

After this I was able to use the forum as normal, but it would periodically boot me out and I'd have to do this again. This hasn't happened in a while though; now it occasionally gives me cloudflare errors which go away if I relogin...


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