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Subject: Are You Or Are You Not Planning To Use Gallery Thumbnails ?


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Sun, 23 August 2015 at 11:54 PM · edited Mon, 03 February 2025 at 8:32 PM

I know everything's in flux at present, but is the intention to have thumbnails for gallery images, or to scrap the thumbnails and just use scaled down versions of the images and 'Content Advisory' notices ?

At present if I upload a gallery image I have to include a thumbnail (between 300x200 and 500x500).

But at present if I view a gallery I don't see any thumbnails, just scaled down versions of the originals (or a 300x350 'Content Advisory' if my gallery viewing settings are censoring for me).


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3dcheapskate ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2015 at 12:01 AM

What I wrote isn't quite correct - it seems that the uploaded thumbnails are still being used for gallery images without nudity/violence/language flags.

It's only the uploaded thumbnails for images with any of those flags that are being ignored - the 300x350 'Content Advisory' notice is used


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



3dcheapskate ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2015 at 12:07 AM

Ah ! The problem's not what I thought it was.
It's only happening to a few of my recent uploads which have the 'nudity' flag.
You seem to have lost the thumbnails.


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



KimberlyC ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2015 at 12:22 AM

Hi there!

Thanks for bringing this up. I see what you are saying.. we have some blank thumbnail.

Kimberly :)



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bwsupport ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2015 at 9:30 AM · edited Mon, 24 August 2015 at 1:42 PM
Site Admin

3dcheapskate posted at 9:27AM Mon, 24 August 2015 - #4223467

What I wrote isn't quite correct - it seems that the uploaded thumbnails are still being used for gallery images without nudity/violence/language flags.

It's only the uploaded thumbnails for images with any of those flags that are being ignored - the 300x350 'Content Advisory' notice is used

The Content Advisory shows if the image has an advisory checked on upload. You can customize your Visibility Settings here (make sure to scroll down on that page) to show all content if wanted. To cut down on the confusion we will likely take out the thumbnail on upload and just use a scaled down version of the image.

Update We have made the thumb an optional field. If you wish to upload one you can, if not it will automatically be resized from the main image.


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 7:22 AM · edited Wed, 26 August 2015 at 7:23 AM

BWsupport: Sorry, I reported this problem in a rather muddled fashion. My latest analysis of the problem is stated below the following quote...

3dcheapskate posted at 7:03PM Wed, 26 August 2015 - #4223468

Ah ! The problem's not what I thought it was.
It's only happening to a few of my recent uploads which have the 'nudity' flag.
You seem to have lost the thumbnails.

May 28th/29th 2015 seems to be the cut-off date for things working correctly/problems occurring:

  • All thumbnails for images posted on the 28th or before are still there.
  • But thumbnails for images posted on the 29th or later have vanished. (100% certain for those with the 'nudity' flag, unsure about those without)


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



hopeandlove ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 10:11 AM

Well, I know the programmers are still working on transferring the images over from the old system to the new system. There were A LOT of photos, so it's taking some time for all of them to convert over.

Please let us know if you have anymore questions.

Hope Kumor

Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine


caty77 ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 10:14 AM

Everybody, don't lose your time to do thumbnails.
All old thumbnails that we did are lost by renderosity now. We look immediatly in pseudo thumbnails all the picture. The next step? Lose of our scene of course.


bwsupport ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:27 PM · edited Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:33 PM
Site Admin

@everyone I've made a few more tweaks to the galleries, for clarification on all the updates check out this thread


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:29 PM · edited Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:31 PM

From today's Gallery Updates thread...

"A lot of legacy thumbnails are now blurry...to fix this issue we are simply displaying a scaled version of the main image ONLY IF the original thumb is below the current minimum size. (Some of this is still being converted). If you don't like this, just edit the image and upload a new one."

That (Some of this is still being converted) could explain what I'm seeing...


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



3dcheapskate ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:44 PM

caty77 posted at 11:33AM Thu, 27 August 2015 - #4224309

Everybody, don't lose your time to do thumbnails.
All old thumbnails that we did are lost by renderosity now. We look immediatly in pseudo thumbnails all the picture. The next step? Lose of our scene of course.

I'm trying to stay positive, although this latest forum/gallery change was a struggle - I got angry, and even my avatar got angry this time! ;o)

I'm now prepared to believe that Renderosity do still have all the thumbnails, but that they just haven't ssttrreettcchheedd all the ones that are smaller than the new 300pixel height/width minimum yet - and those are the ones that we think have 'gone'. If I see all my missing thumbnails reappear over the next day or two I'll be happy.

But just to be on the safe side I'm double-checking that every image I have is also uploaded at DeviantArt, RDNA, DAZ, etc. And also that I have copies on my own sytem.


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



bwsupport ( ) posted Thu, 27 August 2015 at 12:00 AM · edited Thu, 27 August 2015 at 12:08 AM
Site Admin

@3dcheapskate Good catch on this, this was a bug. I'm going to try and explain this ... Previous to about 20 minutes ago if you had your gallery content settings filtering out nudity or violence or language you would see that 'Content Advisory' thumb, however, the bug was you couldn't see your own images if your settings were like that, instead you were seeing your images exactly like a user with the same settings as you.

However, now instead of users getting the 'Content Advisory' message it hides the image. So just keep in mind that if you are anywhere within the galleries (except on your portfolio) you might not see your own images if you are filtering out content with nudity or violence or language and your images have those.

To your second point, we haven't deleted anything. However, all the legacy thumbs look extremely blurry that are under the current minimum requirements. Therefore, anything that is under the current minimum is not being used. If you'd like to re-upload those thumbs to the new requirement feel free to. Again going forward we are attempting to improve the quality of artwork on Renderosity in order to help grow the community and an entire gallery full of blurry images doesn't really fit the bill. I know this can be a headache but this part of having to update a legacy platform to fit the upcoming technologies for years to come.


caty77 ( ) posted Thu, 27 August 2015 at 8:04 AM

For those who have posted thumbnails in good sizes by the past, and take time to do this, you're not respectuous. No respect of our job.
But for you, we have time to restart year after year after year it's true. No family lifes, no jobs.

3dcheapskate i can't stay positive when i look the monstruous site since the 'revolution'. A revolution of renderosity against our, it's sure when we see the result. I don't keep thumbnails because it's the role of renderosity to keep these, like they propose thumbnails. And if i haven't gallery on RDNA, DAZ... it's because i liked renderosity. I insist on likED; because the change of the last year on several parts of site was difficult and many artists go out without a word. This year it's a cataclysm. The next year if the site resists... good luck.
More than thumbnails; like they propose German and French forums, it's their role to allow special characters which are in our languages. Otherwise, it's time to be honest and announce they stop these forums.
And i don't forget the more of 40 bugs in more of these above. But yes, artists, customers and vendors are totally next to the plate. Only the webmaster is a genious...


bwsupport ( ) posted Thu, 27 August 2015 at 9:31 AM · edited Thu, 27 August 2015 at 9:32 AM
Site Admin

For those who have posted thumbnails in good sizes by the past, and take time to do this, you're not respectuous.

Any older thumbs that are larger or equal to the current minimum width are still being used.


caty77 ( ) posted Thu, 27 August 2015 at 1:16 PM

But thumbnails are disappeared. Comme la possibilité d'utiliser des caractères spéciaux. I look the answer at Marcia in this topic: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2893279
Then

  • no respect of our work
  • no word of your part in days before the 'revolution' to explain that url of our galleries would be change
  • no possibility to use our languages when we comment people who have the same language than us.
    And many many other problems here. And you pretend to have put now a limit with 25 000 characters for texts under pictures; it's strange because a friend put a picture today (and i find it at random) and no possibility to go after 4096 characters...


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Wed, 02 September 2015 at 11:04 PM · edited Wed, 02 September 2015 at 11:07 PM

BWsupport posted at 10:22AM Thu, 03 September 2015 - #4224557

...
To your second point, we haven't deleted anything. However, all the legacy thumbs look extremely blurry that are under the current minimum requirements. Therefore, anything that is under the current minimum is not being used.
...

That's a change to what you said in the second bullet point of this post, i.e. "A lot of legacy thumbnails are now blurry...to fix this issue we are simply displaying a scaled version of the main image ONLY IF the original thumb is below the current minimum size. (Some of this is still being converted)"

So you've abandoned that conversion then? And I have to recreate my missing thumbnails if I don't want the full-size version?
I also realized that my 28th/29th may cut-off date was when I started creating 200x200 thumbnails (the largest square thumbnails allowed) - up till then I'd been creating thumbnails at the maximum allowed size of 300x200.
It's not a big problem for me as there are only half a dozen thumbnails I need to redo.

But I have to agree with caty77 - simply scrapping thumbnails smaller than 300x200 shows a complete lack of concern for the users of the galleries.
Have you seen how many pictures people have uploaded?
It's hundreds, even thousands for many people.
Do you really believe that "go away and recreate thumbnails that fit our new dimensions for all your pictures and upload them all again" is a reasonable suggestion ?
Please at least finish scaling up all the old thumbnails that were too small and use them - you have another far greater bandwidth-related problem with your current method...


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



Giana ( ) posted Thu, 03 September 2015 at 5:53 PM

well, after the 'revolution', i took the time to re-create thumbs that were all 300x200 for every single one of my images and uploaded them all. everything looked as i wanted it to until a few days ago. now i have some images showing the thumbs i made and others are showing scaled down versions of my images instead of the thumbs i uploaded. i have absolutely no idea where my thumbnails disappeared to and have asked. i've yet to receive an answer. i am curious if i need to upload once again the thumbs i made & that have gone missing or if it is entirely pointless to bother because there is something in the coding that is determining the outcome. and i can't figure out what the pattern might be either, as some of the thumbs i created for non-nudity images are still in place. the only possible answer i can think of, and it is a whole leaping guess on my part, is that the code is saying to my gallery page "fluff out and fill if there is space", but that doesn't see quite right either. plus, there have been thumbnails that will show at some point, but then in looking again, i get the full compressed viewed of the image itself.

could someone please take a moment and explain what's happening, or if i do indeed, for whatever reason, need to make thumbnails yet again?

thanks!


KimberlyC ( ) posted Thu, 03 September 2015 at 6:38 PM

Giana.. I'm not aware of any changes made to the gallery lately but I have asked. Hang tight just a bit please :)



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Giana ( ) posted Fri, 04 September 2015 at 1:26 AM

thank you so very much, Kimberly.

[hangs tight... hangs 10... hangs in there] 😉


Giana ( ) posted Sun, 06 September 2015 at 4:55 AM

any update on this yet?

thank you so much!


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