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Subject: discarded clothes


marvlin ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 9:44 AM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 1:36 AM

Hi all,

I am frequently finding that my work would benefit from a prop, figure or group of the same that did the following:

  1. Have a prop or figure that resembles a pair of trousers thrown on the floor.
  2. As above but for each item of common clothing, such as, skirt, dress, t-shirt, coat, socks etc etc.
  3. For each of these items you would be able to apply a clothing texture, load them as a seperate entity and arrange them to suit your needs.

In this way if in my stories a person sheds an item of clothing I can apply a texture to the discard clothing prop so it looks like the item of clothing on the floor is the one the figure was previously wearing.

Does this sort of thing exist? Or is this something someone could make?

At the moment I mess about with the scales and parameters to try and achive this but it looks unconvincing.

Thanks Guys

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Kazam561 ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 9:52 AM

This is an excellent product idea. I think there are a couple of vendor items that come close but really a line of clothing laid out or in a pile would be used a lot. In theory it could be done with dynamic clothes (as there are some bed sheets that sort of do that)....

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marvlin ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 10:17 AM · edited Sat, 27 February 2016 at 10:17 AM

Indeed, I haven't really dabbled with dynamic clothing but it would be worth looking into if it solved the problem. As regards it being a product idea. I entirely agree. For the right product I would happily part with cash to possess it. I would value this product at around £16.00 if it ticked the all the boxes for me. Not sure what anybody else would pay but that's it's value to me.

The question is how many others would pay. I am guessing there must a fairly sizeable market for this as nothing appears to fill this gap yet.

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3DFineries ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 10:21 AM

It would be easy to do in cloth room. Just take the item you want to have on the floor. Go into the cloth room & let it sim but make sure it's set to collide with the floor. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes on a quick system. Then if you want to save it for later, save it to the prop folder.

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Kazam561 ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 10:51 AM

Super! Thank you 3dFineries! I'll try this a bit later today (after lunch!) :D

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marvlin ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 11:43 AM

What he said :)

If it is that easy, I'm in.

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marvlin ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 12:19 PM

Well first of all it is not as simple as loading it into the cloth room, selecting the do not collide with the floor button and pressing simulate. As I suspected I need to get the manual out.

I'll get my reading glasses on tomorrow and learn how to do this properly.

Thanks all

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 12:34 PM

marvlin posted at 11:33AM Sat, 27 February 2016 - #4257873

Well first of all it is not as simple as loading it into the cloth room, selecting the do not collide with the floor button and pressing simulate. As I suspected I need to get the manual out.

I'll get my reading glasses on tomorrow and learn how to do this properly.

Thanks all

Still a lot easier to do than model a whole new item. :)

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marvlin posted at 7:00PM Sat, 27 February 2016 - #4257873

Well first of all it is not as simple as loading it into the cloth room, selecting the do not collide with the floor button and pressing simulate. As I suspected I need to get the manual out.

I'll get my reading glasses on tomorrow and learn how to do this properly.

Thanks all

Ummm - you need to make sure that the cloth does collide with the floor otherwise it will drop right through it. (unless the do not was a typo)

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marvlin ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 1:48 PM

Hehe, indeed it is alot simpler than making a new model 😆

As regards the collide with the floor typo it was more a case of me typing without thinking about it logically LOL.

It's about time I started using the cloth room anyway, this will be a good motivator to learn.

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3DFineries ( ) posted Sat, 27 February 2016 at 1:50 PM

I did say, "make sure it's set to collide with the floor". 😉

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 12:31 PM · edited Sun, 28 February 2016 at 12:31 PM

I had to try this. I think it worked reasonably well for a first attempt.

This shows a cheongsam as loaded, and as discarded...

Discarded1.jpg

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3DFineries ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 2:20 PM

🎉

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FVerbaas ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 3:27 PM
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Get yourself the 30 days free trial of Marvelous Designer. You can make your own clothes or import Poser dynamic clothing. The simulator allows you to drape the items on the ground as you see fit.


EClark1894 ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 3:51 PM

IsaoShi posted at 4:50PM Sun, 28 February 2016 - #4258051

I had to try this. I think it worked reasonably well for a first attempt.

This shows a cheongsam as loaded, and as discarded...

Discarded1.jpg

Hey, pick that up, young lady! Do you know how long it took for me to make that Cheongsam?




IsaoShi ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 4:37 PM

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Sun, 28 February 2016 at 6:57 PM

Sowwy, Mr. Clark.

Sowwy2.jpg

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Glen ( ) posted Mon, 29 February 2016 at 8:17 AM

Content Advisory! This message contains nudity

The cloth room can be helpful for this, although it can be tricky with some things. As an example of how I overcame this problem, I shall link to my gallery featuring my character, Sasha. There is a lot of nudity involved, so please bear that in mind.

What I did was take the Hot Summer 2009 bikini by Powerage and export each item to my 3D application, where I removed the knots and extended the strings to compensate, remapping these extensions to suit my needs.

I then imported each item back and manually applied the same materials as the bikini which was previously worn by Sasha in the previous renders and then simulated the cloth from there.

There was a lot of trial and error involved, but I think it worked out ok, for the most part.

Also be aware that some conforming items have completely separate meshes for things like cuffs, collars, tubing etc, and will likely mess these up during the simulation.

Fret not though! There is a plugin in development which should be able to solve these problems! You can read more about it and see examples here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2891120

Here is the link to Sasha's gallery, so that you can see the results. Again, please be advised that this gallery contains nudity!

http://glen85.deviantart.com/gallery/49052067/Sasha

Good luck and thanks for reading!

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marvlin ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2016 at 3:43 AM · edited Sun, 13 March 2016 at 3:44 AM

Hi all,

Just come back to this thread having finally had the time to start teaching myself how to use the cloth room. Early results are encouraging and this method has given me what I wanted originally so thanks everyone for the advise and guidance.

The one thing I am struggling with now is having created my discarded clothing when I save it as prop and then reload it again is has reverted back to the pre-simulation form. How do I maintain the simulations effects when saving as a prop?

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marvlin ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2016 at 3:49 AM

Never mind. I've just figured it out. I exported the flattened clothing as a wavefront object, then re-imported it again and then saved it as a prop.

It that the correct way to do it or is there an easier way?

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3DFineries ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2016 at 8:15 AM

That's the easiest way, marvlin. 😉

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IsaoShi ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2016 at 1:20 PM · edited Sun, 13 March 2016 at 1:28 PM

Hmmm... I simply saved the final simulation as a new prop, like 3DFineries suggested in post #4. Not sure why that didn't work for you...

To make sure I really did what I thought I had done, I just reloaded the saved prop into a new scene:

DiscardedCS.jpg

Edit: thinking back, I might have Duplicated it first, and saved the duplicate.

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WandW ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2016 at 3:47 PM · edited Sun, 13 March 2016 at 3:48 PM

Here's a free pile of laundry for the unambitious, although it requires the DSON importer and D3D's loader.....

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/pile-of-cloth/75953

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