ghostship2 posted at 2:23PM Wed, 06 April 2016 - #4257616

The only people jumping ship are the vendors who are just following the money trail. I can't blame them either, I would in their shoes.

That is great and i too understand this. BUT why cut off their noses to spite their...well.....pocketbooks? shutting out Poser users as a rich market to your products is plain stupid. Many of the content creators know how or have produced content for both platforms before. why not continue? If DAZ doesn't allow them to sell (or persuades then not to which has humorously been vehemently denied elsewhere ) then why not create the Poser versions under another artist name elsewhere?

The problem runs much deeper. as much as I can see the Genesis figures only being used in D/S their base application afterall, why does DAZ content creation team also refuse to create support content like scenes and props and sets and architecture and weapons and vehicles and nature and hair ALSO ONLY for D/S? It is stuff we should all be able to purchases and use especially as the content is getting more and more sophisticated looking and realistic. I hate seeing a beautifully crafted hair prop, or bunker or sand dune or woodsy knoll offered ONLY in D/S format when i would love to get it to use in my work in Poser. As far as I am concerned their marketing strategy seems flawed and therefore sucks!

Yes Hivewire seems a good option but still way to small and they do not offer support or content for the old DAZ Mil figures? I don't much like dawn or dusk and even if they were nicer I would avoid spending more darn money on still new figures when I have so much invested in the Mil 2 to Mil4 figures already. Maybe as they get overflow of content creators from RDNA for instance who create Poser content I might consider it a viable site to peruse but not yet ready for prime time in my opinion. I have purchased product there however...animals and sets so not totally out my my content universe just not a complete product site. Also the problem with limited content posting there and their very tight TOS like DAZ has been for so long frustrates the hell out of me. I am going to stay here for a while and I am going to really miss RDNA for that and so many other reasons!

shante posted at 7:44PM Wed, 06 April 2016 - #4264444

I would avoid spending more darn money on still new figures when I have so much invested in the Mil 2 to Mil4 figures already.

You answered your own post. Those brand new figures that you won't invest in need props and environments using the same types of materials and fit in those hands. And customers have been rewarding vendors for compatible products. As time to make products is finite, vendors position themselves to make products that will give them a decent return on investment. Making two separate products with 3-4 different materials for small price ultimately isn't worth the effort, so vendors are only choosing one. If you notice when a vendor does put out products for both platforms, the poser version is lagging way behind the DS version in sales.. .so that's why you're seeing more DS-only items flooding the market and why it was important to have something built on the same standard so vendors are only making items once.

If there's a .obj .then bunkers or sand dunes or woodsy knoll are compatible with any app ,some assembly required.

Male_M3dia posted at 2:40AM Thu, 07 April 2016 - #4264491

shante posted at 7:44PM Wed, 06 April 2016 - #4264444

I would avoid spending more darn money on still new figures when I have so much invested in the Mil 2 to Mil4 figures already.

You answered your own post. Those brand new figures that you won't invest in need props and environments using the same types of materials and fit in those hands. And customers have been rewarding vendors for compatible products. As time to make products is finite, vendors position themselves to make products that will give them a decent return on investment. Making two separate products with 3-4 different materials for small price ultimately isn't worth the effort, so vendors are only choosing one. If you notice when a vendor does put out products for both platforms, the poser version is lagging way behind the DS version in sales.. .so that's why you're seeing more DS-only items flooding the market and why it was important to have something built on the same standard so vendors are only making items once.

Understand from a common sense business pov but from a frustrated long time poser user pov still sucks.

RorrKonn posted at 2:41AM Thu, 07 April 2016 - #4264507

If there's a .obj .then bunkers or sand dunes or woodsy knoll are compatible with any app ,some assembly required.

Damn problem is that damn dson importer sucks and we still need that to get them into poser and if they don't have the right materials/textures that will not work either...I tried it. Have had to return more daz product not compatible with poser as advertised and the dson importer has never worked for me. So whine and cheese wind up being my only remaining options. :)

Let's avoid a software war. There are pros and cons for both. We move on to new things and see where they go ... We all use what we like. Let's settle down.

You don't need DSON to import .obj files. Stonemason releases his content as Daz formats & .obj files.

One has to be willing to manually import to poser and apply the textures by hand if necessary.