Hi All, Sad to say, I am closing my store at the end of the month.

Just wanted to say thank you, to all of you who, have supported my efforts over the last eight years.

I has been fun!

Hope the best for you all!

Kind regards, Tom

Good luck to you too,Tom. Best wishes in your future endeavors.

Sorry to see you go. And while it may be a bit self serving, please tell me everything in your store is on sale right now!

That's a real shame. Here's hoping I can grab your stuff before you close.

Sorry to see you go, but best wishes to you.

Good luck where ever you go. We will definitely miss you and your products.

As someone who's picked up a lot of your products, I hate to see you go. I think you might be shocked by the glut of sheer numbers of products released in competition for sales if you're going where I think you're going. I wish you well.

Oh no! There was a load of stuff I still wanted to get, no way I can do it before you go. Best of luck wherever that may be.

I don't understand why your closing the store ,what's it hurt to just leave it there. there's stuff at turbo that's been there 15 years. You got a top vender trophy .I'm confused.

I do wish you well n good luck .Your one killer CGI Artist :)

Sorry to see you go sir. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Is this also true for your storefront at DAZ?

ssgbryan posted at 2:42PM Wed, 26 October 2016 - #4287963

Is this also true for your storefront at DAZ?

No.

So you will only develop for Daz? I hope you got a ton of money for exclusive rights to your models. Sad to see you go, but you have to do what's best for you. Will you still have a poser install version through Daz?

putrdude posted at 4:09PM Wed, 26 October 2016 - #4287975

So you will only develop for Daz? I hope you got a ton of money for exclusive rights to your models. Sad to see you go, but you have to do what's best for you. Will you still have a poser install version through Daz?

Poser for the moment and Daz in a bit

EClark1894 posted at 4:54PM Wed, 26 October 2016 - #4287918

Sorry to see you go. And while it may be a bit self serving, please tell me everything in your store is on sale right now!

I put it on sale until the end of the month as you requested. :-)

Was not really planning to do so...

25% off

Tom

Thank you.

See you on the other site ;-)

I am curious though as to WHY you're leaving? Are you leaving just Rendo or Rendo AND Poser, or just Poser? If you're just moving over to DAZ, but still making models that will work in Poser, no problem, I'll follow. You do great work.

EClark1894 posted at 1:28AM Sat, 29 October 2016 - #4288146

I am curious though as to WHY you're leaving? Are you leaving just Rendo or Rendo AND Poser, or just Poser? If you're just moving over to DAZ, but still making models that will work in Poser, no problem, I'll follow. You do great work.

I was confused but I this is how I'm understanding what's been said. DreamlandModels store is moving to exclusively DAZ. as to the why's to be exclusive .1 If your exclusive with one store they might give you a few more %'s of sells.so in stead of 50% ya get 53%.2 DAZ might not allow there venders to sell else where.3 could be other reasons.

I don't think you can sell any thing ya selling on DAZ any where else.

DreamlandModels is going to start making stuff for DAZ n stop making Poser stuff.

sound like what Stone Masson did

What a shame if that's the case.

Tja, it seems everybody os leaving for DS / DAZ.

So sorry to say this, but the market follows the better figures.

Daz does allow their vendors to sell elsewhere, they just don't want the stuff you sell at DAZ to be sold elsewhere ;). Daz likes all it's vendors to sell exclusive products, not BE exclusive to Daz. If Dreamland is going to Daz and pulling his store here, it's for reasons of his, not because of Daz. At least some of Tom's stuff is still for Poser and can still be gotten thru Daz, yes? :). I'm not tooting their horn, I'm just speaking from experience because I USED to be a Daz PA. That's my only insight into it :P.

And Tony, unfortunately that is true :(. The market follows the better figures and not so much the software. And here we are :( On a better note, Poser still has better free plugins and more of them. Can you imagine what Poser would be without Snarly's scripts or Bagginsbill's Envirosphere? I used Poser for nearly 20 years and I can barely remember before we had Scene Fixer and EZ Skin ;). Saved me so much time and hair pullin', I can't even tell you. Poser has an imaginative and generous following.

Laurie

Not arguing the point of following the better figure, but ALL figures can and should be able to use the same props. If Dreamland, and I am waiting to hear his response if he makes one, is abandoning the Poser format for DAZ's .duf one, I'd just like to know. I'd also be interested in knowing why if he'd care to explain. Despite what some people believe, I don't hate DAZ and still shop there on occasion. Bought some shaders from Vince Bagna just recently for Poser. But if I have to jump through hoops to make it work in Poser, or it doesn't work in Poser at all, then no, I probably won't buy it, and that's been the case for a while now for me.

Yeah, I was very disappointed when the props stopped going to both programs. There's no reason they shouldn't be the same in each program. But the widening gap between the two programs is just going to get wider from here on in unfortunately. I did get TONS of stuff this year in the PA and PC sales that will work in Poser tho :D

Laurie

RorrKonn posted at 5:43PM Sat, 29 October 2016 - #4288197

I am curious though as to WHY you're leaving? Are you leaving just Rendo or Rendo AND Poser, or just Poser? If you're just moving over to DAZ, but still making models that will work in Poser, no problem, I'll follow. You do great work.

I am learning Daz Studio but will still be building products for Poser as well. Just bought Poser 11 Pro if that says anything.

I was confused but I this is how I'm understanding what's been said. DreamlandModels store is moving to exclusively DAZ. as to the why's to be exclusive .1 If your exclusive with one store they might give you a few more %'s of sells.so in stead of 50% ya get 53%.2 DAZ might not allow there venders to sell else where.3 could be other reasons.

Nothing to do with percent. I want to build products for Daz Studio and that other site is almost all Daz products so that is where I have decided to sell those products.

I don't think you can sell any thing ya selling on DAZ any where else.

BINGO!

DreamlandModels is going to start making stuff for DAZ n stop making Poser stuff.

Not true!

sound like what Stone Masson did

He can do whatever he wants, right?

So the short answer for these posts here is,

I will be closing my store at midnight on the last day of this month unless it happens sooner for some unknown reason.

Not mad at anyone here at Renderosity, as they have been great for the last 8 years.

Thanks to all who are posting in this thread!

Sorry I don't have time to answer each one personally.

Tom

LaurieA posted at 5:53PM Sat, 29 October 2016 - #4288231

Yeah, I was very disappointed when the props stopped going to both programs. There's no reason they shouldn't be the same in each program. But the widening gap between the two programs is just going to get wider from here on in unfortunately. I did get TONS of stuff this year in the PA and PC sales that will work in Poser tho :D

Laurie

Hi Laurie,

Both programs have their merits.

Both programs have a different view of how to handle things.

I would never expect Poser to bend their program so all Daz products work in Poser,

or the other way around.

If you had any idea how long it takes to create over 300 material zones for one of my City Block products your head would spin. :-)

To me the modeling is the easy part, as well as the most fun as I am creating a world in my head and bringing it to life in 3D Studio Max.

It really is a lot of fun!

Then comes the hard part.

Export each of the many parts

Import each part into Poser.

Create a figure

Rig the figure

Create all the materials for that figure which is a ton of work.

Create hundreds of cameras and poses

Then do hundreds of test renders.

Render all the thumbs...

Then promotional images...

I could keep going but you get the idea.

There will be Poser versions

There will be Daz Studio versions.

Simple as that. :-)

Hope none of my posts have been offensive to anyone as my A.D.D. does not allow me a lot of tact.

Regards to you all!

Tom

Nothing to take offense about, far as I can see. Hey, I'm being assessed for autism so tact isn't necessarily an issue. :D

Nobody has the right to tell you where or why you should sell your stuff. You make the decisions, not us.

Best wishes and continued success is all I can say.

I'll join the chorus and say sorry to see you go.

You will definitely be missed.

Continue to do what you want to do for your own reasons that need no explanation nor rationalization. Try and have some fun along with the way.

DreamlandModels posted at 8:39PM Sat, 29 October 2016 - #4288232

RorrKonn posted at 5:43PM Sat, 29 October 2016 - #4288197

I am curious though as to WHY you're leaving? Are you leaving just Rendo or Rendo AND Poser, or just Poser? If you're just moving over to DAZ, but still making models that will work in Poser, no problem, I'll follow. You do great work.

I am learning Daz Studio but will still be building products for Poser as well. Just bought Poser 11 Pro if that says anything.

I was confused but I this is how I'm understanding what's been said. DreamlandModels store is moving to exclusively DAZ. as to the why's to be exclusive .1 If your exclusive with one store they might give you a few more %'s of sells.so in stead of 50% ya get 53%.2 DAZ might not allow there venders to sell else where.3 could be other reasons.

Nothing to do with percent. I want to build products for Daz Studio and that other site is almost all Daz products so that is where I have decided to sell those products.

I don't think you can sell any thing ya selling on DAZ any where else.

BINGO!

DreamlandModels is going to start making stuff for DAZ n stop making Poser stuff.

Not true!

sound like what Stone Masson did

He can do whatever he wants, right?

So the short answer for these posts here is,

I will be closing my store at midnight on the last day of this month unless it happens sooner for some unknown reason.

Not mad at anyone here at Renderosity, as they have been great for the last 8 years.

Thanks to all who are posting in this thread!

Sorry I don't have time to answer each one personally.

Tom

Tom, honestly, thanks for the answers. As long as you're continuing to make products for Poser, you'll have my business.

For the record, I'm trying to learn DS myself. And frankly, i find it far easier to make the stuff for Poser, then simply port it over to DS.

There's no reason for any hard feelings . I wish you the best .

No hard feelings here ;). And I know how much work making things for Poser and DS is. I've never done anything near the scope of the products you make, but it's all work, isn't it? ;) The fact that you're still willing to make things for each program is astounding and is appreciated by both sides I'm sure :).

Laurie

Thanks Laurie...

Tom

It doesn't matter to me where you sell your stuff, as long as it's compatible with Poser without some stupid plugin thing I will buy it if I think it's cool.

When you close your store here, does that mean that the stuff I've bought from here will be inaccessible for download at a later time?

You should be able to download them anytime, unless things have changed.

Tom

I can still download stuff they no longer sell both here and at DAZ.

Hi, please let us know on the daz store if the newest products have never been released elsewhere. I have a ton of content and renderosity stops me from buying the same one twice. I have a lot of your sets so I need a reminder if I've got it already or not. I think im up to date so just put something like never before released or totally new or something in the promo please. Love esther

estherau posted at 11:49PM Mon, 31 October 2016 - #4288458

Hi, please let us know on the daz store if the newest products have never been released elsewhere. I have a ton of content and renderosity stops me from buying the same one twice. I have a lot of your sets so I need a reminder if I've got it already or not. I think im up to date so just put something like never before released or totally new or something in the promo please. Love esther Hi Esther,

All the products I have released at another store have been completely reworked and some with even more features.

Should not really talk about another store in here to be fair to Renderosity.

Send me a PM if you need a more detailed answer.

Thanks for your loyalty for so long as you are one of my best customers.

Kind regards, Tom

Hi Tom, I had no idea that I was. I thought everyone would buy all your sets. Love esther