Are there any news / rumours about when (or even if) there will be a new Poser aka P12?

Take a look at the last few pages of the "Is Poser dying?" Thread. Rather interesting, in the ancient Chinese sense.

[rtorres]

Hi Everyone,

I wanted to introduce myself to the product community. My name is Rafael Torres and I have recently joined Smith Micro as the new product manager for the Graphics Division. As I’m sure many of you are aware, Smith Micro has made considerable changes to its Graphics business in recent months. While change is always hard, it also presents opportunities for us to improve the products and add innovative, new functionalities. I want to personally assure you that Smith Micro is fully committed to its Graphics business and the continued improvement of widely popular titles such as Poser and Moho to meet your needs and expectations. We will keep you posted as product development continues throughout the year. Feel free to reach out to me and the rest of the Graphics Team with product suggestions for Poser (info.poser@smithmicro.com).

The Smith Micro graphics department seems committed to continuing development of Poser. It's been a while since we're seen an update. Development isn't chugging along at full speed, at the moment. But they're not giving up on it. That suggests that they intend to make a Poser 12. Larry Weinberg, who created Poser, is still part of the team, which is a good sign.

Not sure whether I formatted the above quote properly. It's from the Smith Micro Poser forum: https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/1765/hi-there-from-the-poser-team

Thanks for the replies. I stopped reading the "Is Poser dying"-thread about five posts before the changes at SM were mentioned ... doh So, I guess it's time to get over my silly superstitions (anything with a "11" in it is like a black cat under a ladder on a Friday the 13th for me) and just buy the bl..y P11

Ometeotl posted at 10:19PM Mon, 03 April 2017 - #4301452

Thanks for the replies. I stopped reading the "Is Poser dying"-thread about five posts before the changes at SM were mentioned ... doh So, I guess it's time to get over my silly superstitions (anything with a "11" in it is like a black cat under a ladder on a Friday the 13th for me) and just buy the bl..y P11

It's bad luck to be superstitious.

Ometeotl: Hi! Once you get P11 ... there are a lot of new and exciting things in this version. Just ask your questions and we will happily help you out if you need it. Go over tutorials you find and check out free shaders for Superfly in our Free Stuff and elsewhere ... you won't regret it.

Last post on this thread was 2 years ago. ANY word since then?

I visit the Smith Micro Poser Forum, and there are a lot of comments from a member of the SM staff, and Poser 12 is in the works. That said, however, there's been no definite indication as to when we can expect it.

This reminds me of long car rides and the kids asking, "Are we there yet? Are we there yet?" and the Mom saying, "We'll get there when we get there."

The main problem is that we are now 4 hours into what's usually a 2.5 hour trip, so us kids are getting antsy. Hopefully we'll see something a SIGGRAPH, even if there's still no release date revealed.

I guess all we can do then is to continue to watch and wait while our art work waits. P11 has turned into such a headache over the last year, I don't use it half as much as when I first got it.

Why? What is the big "need" that makes us want Poser 12?

Poser 11 was great when it first came out. Now- in my case anyway- it's junk. It throws up message telling you the DLL module can't be found when you know d*&*^m well it's there. It throws the Parameters settings screen in your face every time you touch a dial- locking up the program till you shut it off and then when you go back to that dial or another, it comes up again- and again- and again- before you can finally get things done. It's become a source of frustration that's not worth the fight.

sorry to hear that mdbruffy. If that happened to me, I'd certainly want something better!

Are others hoping for Poser 12 to fix a major deficit, of for some long-promised really-cool feature?

The Parameters palette pops up "in your face"? Do you not have it as part of your Poser UI setup? You do know it can be "docked" so it stays in the one spot all the time. The only issue I've had with PP11 is the way the Library used to scroll unexpectedly every time I tried clicking on a thumbnail, but since setting up the external Library for viewing in my browser, I don't have that issue any more.

I like PP11, but am hoping P12/PP12 has some "new" stuff we don't currently have, as well as some "fixes", though I think they finally fixed the Library issues I was having. I'm just so used to the external Library now, I prefer using it.

The way I have my interface/ work screen laid out,there's no room for a pallet I'd never use. Here's what I've been dealing with:

that pops up when you double click a dial. Perhaps your mouse is "too quick" and you are issuing a second click on a dial?

mdbruffy posted at 6:48PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349575

Poser 11 was great when it first came out. Now- in my case anyway- it's junk. It throws up message telling you the DLL module can't be found when you know d*&*^m well it's there. It throws the Parameters settings screen in your face every time you touch a dial- locking up the program till you shut it off and then when you go back to that dial or another, it comes up again- and again- and again- before you can finally get things done. It's become a source of frustration that's not worth the fight.

That shouldn't be happening. The Parameter Settings dialog should only be popping up when you specifically choose to edit the parameter settings. Something else is up. What build are you using?

I'm using the latest build: 11.1.135510. Here's my other Demon: This one pops up as soon as the program starts:

Do you still have a copy of the previous version you were using? If the problems started with this build you might want to reinstall your previous version to see if it persists.

I only have the files for Poser 9. I tried 10 and it wouldn't work right from the start. I went round and round with SM for several months before I finally decided I'd go back to 9 and wait for 11. With so much 'distance' between versions, I seriously doubt my P11 files would work in P9.

Yeah ... By any chance did you merge runtimes together from Poser 9 to Poser 11? Sometimes that can cause really unexpected issues.

Something is definitely up. The only thing I can think of is for you to uninstall Poser 11. And then add your Poser 9 runtime as an "external library."

Try moving the KnectCapture folder out of Runtime:Python:addons

Bill

Deecey- I have uninstalled, reinstalled, down loaded fresh copies of the files- everything. Nothing in that direction helped. As for my Runtime, it's been in a constant state of growth since Poser 5. But I've never had problems with it before- and inthis case, it's an added library- not the one that comes in Poser. I've never even used that one.

willyb53- Where would I move the KnectCapture folder to?

anywhere you want, I have a folder called :Python:addonsoff, and moved mine to there. Had the same problem as you after one of the updates

Bill

Do I put that new folder in Poser or just anywhere on the hard drive?

Anywhere, poser tries to run the init code for items in addons, so as long as it is not in addons poser will not see it.

Remember, the next time you update, poser will put it back

Bill

Okay. Thanks. I'll let you know if it works.

willyb53- That seems to have fixed it. Even with a simple render like this one, that screen would have poped up a couple of times at least.

Glad your issue is fixed. Now that it is, there is an update, if you dare. the latest build isn't 11.1.135510 it's 11.1.135540. It was just released recently. I say if you dare because you've had so many problems. I haven't seen any new issues with this update. All I know it corrects is to add the send to... button back to the render settings window.

Okay. It didn't come up yesterday when I checked. But I'll take a look.

My Poser keeps telling me I'm up to date. Another glitch?

RedPhantom- Where did you get your update? I went to SM's site and the most recent one I saw was the 11.1.1. from January.

The latest update is 11.1.1.35540 which restores the 'Send Render To' button in the render settings dialog. Run the SM download manager and look at the updates tab.

I found it. Never noticed that key was gone. I always just exported the image to my pictures file and went on from there.

Well, it's installed and tested and no parameters screen popped up- yet. But my other demon lives on:

When you installed P11, did you install the Poser Support Files as well? If not, I'm just wondering if the Kinect Python addon is in the support files download and not the main Poser 11 install file and maybe that's why it can't find it?.

As I mentioned before, every time you install an update, it puts it back in addons

Bill

That's ok, I just wasn't sure. I know there are things you would expect to be in the main install .exe that aren't so you have to run the Support Files .exe, that's why I wondered about the Kinect bits.

When that stupid little window comes up, I just put it in the lower right of my screen and carry on, since Poser 11 insists on popping it up everytime you so much as think about clicking a mouse button. That being said, I've gone back to Poser Pro 2014.

Nice to see that Smith Micro is saying they will continue with Poser but for me, talk is cheap and over the last year I have seen very little from the company that would convince me of their intentions..... Hopefully I am wrong but as I said.... talk is cheap and so far that is all Smith Micro is doing.

drafter69

1. what is wrong with the current Poser releases?
2. what is so urgent for you to have from a new Poser release? :: og ::

Well, for one, I always loved messing with micropolygon displacement, and SuperFly doesn't have it despite the underlying Cycles does have it now.

bagginsbill posted at 8:38AM Tue, 30 April 2019 - #4349864

Well, for one, I always loved messing with micropolygon displacement, and SuperFly doesn't have it despite the underlying Cycles does have it now.

Yeah, I'd be more willing to try and use Superfly if it had micro displacement as well. Also would be nice if it was faster.

I'd like them to add vector displacement too if possible...

bagginsbill posted at 11:30AM Tue, 30 April 2019 - #4349864

Well, for one, I always loved messing with micropolygon displacement, and SuperFly doesn't have it despite the underlying Cycles does have it now.

Seconded. If Poser 12 includes that, I'll already be happy.

I'd also love some enhancements in the dynamic clothing and a revamp in the dynamic hair systems.

And for others, the ability to import HD morphs from other modelling programs aside from Zbrush would be great too - I use Zbrush, but so many people don't.

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 3:27PM Tue, 30 April 2019 - #4351054

bagginsbill posted at 11:30AM Tue, 30 April 2019 - #4349864

Well, for one, I always loved messing with micropolygon displacement, and SuperFly doesn't have it despite the underlying Cycles does have it now.

Seconded. If Poser 12 includes that, I'll already be happy.

I'd also love some enhancements in the dynamic clothing and a revamp in the dynamic hair systems.

And for others, the ability to import HD morphs from other modelling programs aside from Zbrush would be great too - I use Zbrush, but so many people don't.

Yes to all of the above. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes