So, despite my hopes that I'd be able to purchase Poser by the end of my trial, it hasn't panned out that way, and I'm still not sure when I'll be able to. Waiting on a check that people are taking their sweet time sending to me.. Funny how it always works out that way.

Anyway!

While I wait, I was wondering if there are any "must have" or at least "highly recommended" tools or content packs you would recommend for someone just starting out with Poser, to give them a boost?

Maybe some good paid training courses? I'm open to that, too.

I understand Poser 11 Pro comes with a lot of stuff, and that I can pick up La Femme Pro to get full use of her..

But what else is good to have in the toolbox besides that?

I'll have some extra $$ left beyond the $200 for Poser itself, so I'd like to put together a shopping list :)

Thanks in advance!

I'd get used to the content that comes with Poser before I bought anything else. That way you'd see what you have, and be able to figure out what you need easier.

For training I'd start with the latest videos from renderosity on you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHskz2PNix3Alw_gLu1_ezbQGg7kqUFVZ

Once you get started with the free content then you will probably get to the stage of deciding you need a specific item to complete a scene the way you want, then people here will be able to come up with specific suggestions.

Do you have a favourite genre or know what type of renders you are hoping to create, portraits, outdoors scenes, crowded indoor scenes? Poser is so versatile it's difficult to give general ideas

A few scripts you might find useful are Ezdome and ezskin3 available here http://www.snarlygribbly.org/poser/?LMCL=dvj5a1

I've found Dimension3D's Introduction to Superfly useful.

That's a good point, regarding what genres, etc.

Generally I'm into Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Horror. Mostly Fantasy at this point, for a story I'm intending to tell using Poser. I'm also interested in (eventually) creating my own props and such in Blender to use.. maybe sell them on the market, but that's getting ahead of myself heh.

Some animals would be good to have. I'll have to look through the marketplace a bit.

Thanks!

Nails60 posted at 6:46PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382496

For training I'd start with the latest videos from renderosity on you tube.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHskz2PNix3Alw_gLu1_ezbQGg7kqUFVZ

Once you get started with the free content then you will probably get to the stage of deciding you need a specific item to complete a scene the way you want, then people here will be able to come up with specific suggestions.

Do you have a favourite genre or know what type of renders you are hoping to create, portraits, outdoors scenes, crowded indoor scenes? Poser is so versatile it's difficult to give general ideas

That's some solid advice for sure.

I find there's usually at least a couple tools or addons that come highly recommended with a program, so thought I'd ask what those were for Poser.

Thanks :)

EClark1894 posted at 6:49PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382492

I'd get used to the content that comes with Poser before I bought anything else. That way you'd see what you have, and be able to figure out what you need easier.

RedPhantom posted at 6:51PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382497

A few scripts you might find useful are Ezdome and ezskin3 available here http://www.snarlygribbly.org/poser/?LMCL=dvj5a1

Thanks! I'll have to take a look into those. Looks like there's a bunch of tools on that page. A couple others jumped out at me, too.

Piggy-backing off my own question, in the Marketplace, when I'm looking for models/assets.. Items indicated as for Poser 10 / 2014, or 9, etc... are those also compatible with Poser 11? Would they work "as-is", or has there been any format changes that would require some finegling, etc? Just want to make sure I don't buy stuff I can't actually use.

Thanks

Actually, Poser comes with several animal figures and poses in Legacy Content. It also includes the relatively new Hivewire Horse and Gorilla.

My other suggestion to you is to make sure you look into the scripts that come with Poser. I've had Poser for over 20 years, so I've gotten rather set in my ways. Still, many of the scripts that come included are extremely useful. Be sure to look under the Scripts Menu.

Yeah I've seen discussion and mention of scripts in Poser. I'll have to give them a gander... once I can actually buy it. -sigh- lol.

Oh, one other thing I'm wondering but couldn't find an answer to.... Does something like DAZ Dragon 3 work in Poser? I haven't seen anything similar specifically made for Poser, and I'd like to have a dragon available for some work.

Thanks!

EClark1894 posted at 7:58PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382509

Actually, Poser comes with several animal figures and poses in Legacy Content. It also includes the relatively new Hivewire Horse and Gorilla.

My other suggestion to you is to make sure you look into the scripts that come with Poser. I've had Poser for over 20 years, so I've gotten rather set in my ways. Still, many of the scripts that come included are extremely useful. Be sure to look under the Scripts Menu.

TwoCatsYelling posted at 8:16PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382504

RedPhantom posted at 6:51PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382497

A few scripts you might find useful are Ezdome and ezskin3 available here http://www.snarlygribbly.org/poser/?LMCL=dvj5a1

Thanks! I'll have to take a look into those. Looks like there's a bunch of tools on that page. A couple others jumped out at me, too.

Some of the scripts don't work with poser 11, or might with firefly renders but not with superfly ones.

Hmm, okay.

Well, I guess I'd stick to the ones recommended first, 'til I'm more comfortable with Poser overall. Then I can start delving into trying out other scripts.

I have a feeling I'll be spending a lot of time getting around the program overall before then even, heh.

RedPhantom posted at 8:21PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382514

TwoCatsYelling posted at 8:16PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382504

RedPhantom posted at 6:51PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382497

A few scripts you might find useful are Ezdome and ezskin3 available here http://www.snarlygribbly.org/poser/?LMCL=dvj5a1

Thanks! I'll have to take a look into those. Looks like there's a bunch of tools on that page. A couple others jumped out at me, too.

Some of the scripts don't work with poser 11, or might with firefly renders but not with superfly ones.

TwoCatsYelling posted at 9:22PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382510

Yeah I've seen discussion and mention of scripts in Poser. I'll have to give them a gander... once I can actually buy it. -sigh- lol.

Oh, one other thing I'm wondering but couldn't find an answer to.... Does something like DAZ Dragon 3 work in Poser? I haven't seen anything similar specifically made for Poser, and I'd like to have a dragon available for some work.

I honestly can't say. The last Daz Dragon I had was the Millenium Dragon and that was native to Poser. However, Poser does have it's on Dragon called Dregon, again, part of the Legacy Content.

Ah! I own Millenium Dragon, and an addon for it, I think. So, I can just use that. I'd actually forgotten about that until you mentioned it.

I'll also check out the Dregon.

Thanks again!

EClark1894 posted at 8:50PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382516

TwoCatsYelling posted at 9:22PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382510

Yeah I've seen discussion and mention of scripts in Poser. I'll have to give them a gander... once I can actually buy it. -sigh- lol.

Oh, one other thing I'm wondering but couldn't find an answer to.... Does something like DAZ Dragon 3 work in Poser? I haven't seen anything similar specifically made for Poser, and I'd like to have a dragon available for some work.

I honestly can't say. The last Daz Dragon I had was the Millenium Dragon and that was native to Poser. However, Poser does have it's on Dragon called Dregon, again, part of the Legacy Content.

MilDragon 1 and 2 works in Poser. So is SubDragon. There are several morphs for those. 3 does not have a Poser version.

And there is this one: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dragonz/122073/

Specifically for Poser, with its texture extensions: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dragonz-colors-of-the-wyrm---black-gold-green/122074/

Wow, so plenty of options, then. Awesome. Very good to know.

Thanks again!

Some very helpful folks here. It's very appreciated!

Rhia474 posted at 8:56PM Tue, 03 March 2020 - #4382519

MilDragon 1 and 2 works in Poser. So is SubDragon. There are several morphs for those. 3 does not have a Poser version.

And there is this one: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dragonz/122073/

Specifically for Poser, with its texture extensions: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dragonz-colors-of-the-wyrm---black-gold-green/122074/

So I just realized I'd posted a few times under an older account I don't intend to use anymore. Whoops. Couldn't figure out why my avatar wasn't showing up and then realized the name wasn't right.

Sorry for any possible confusion with the different account names.

Need to close down that account somehow or something.

TwoCatsYelling posted at 12:42AM Wed, 04 March 2020 - #4382502

That's a good point, regarding what genres, etc.

Generally I'm into Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Horror. Mostly Fantasy at this point, for a story I'm intending to tell using Poser. I'm also interested in (eventually) creating my own props and such in Blender to use.. maybe sell them on the market, but that's getting ahead of myself heh.

Some animals would be good to have. I'll have to look through the marketplace a bit.

Thanks!

There are quite a lot of animals coming with the Poser content: https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Poser

As for the Daz Dragon 3: it does work in Poser with the DSON importer ... or I couldn't have rendered this picture: Fairytale Hour

Free dragons: https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Fantasy_Monsters#Dragons

I remember Chris Creek had starting modeling a Dragon for Hivewire. I was all ready for that one, but apparently it's been in development limbo for about three or four years now.

EClark1894 posted at 3:49AM Wed, 04 March 2020 - #4382534

I remember Chris Creek had starting modeling a Dragon for Hivewire. I was all ready for that one, but apparently it's been in development limbo for about three or four years now.

Found the thread - started in May 2016 and last message by Chris in May 2019 that he just doesn't have the ressources to follow it up ...

Pity. I would be all in for a dragon that works natively in Poser AND DazStudio, just like the other HW figures ...

Ohhh nice!

So that DSON importer handles all the morphs, too, then? That figure has a great number of options available. Would be great to have them available in Poser, too. Cool render, by the way. What's she reading?

Also, that's a great resource for the freebies. I'm going to have to keep a bookmarks folder for all the resources I've been linked to here.

Kerya posted at 7:34PM Wed, 04 March 2020 - #4382530

As for the Daz Dragon 3: it does work in Poser with the DSON importer ... or I couldn't have rendered this picture: Fairytale Hour

Free dragons: https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Fantasy_Monsters#Dragons

Yes, DSON handles the morphs. For the textures you will have to remember to load the Poser mc6 materials (which are included in the Dragon 3 files).

What is she reading? Hmmm ... a fairytale book about ... humans? Maybe. LOL

Ahhh yes... Humans. Those mythical creatures :p

Well, I should be getting Poser on Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. I'm mildly excited. That is to say, I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas morning lol.

So I'll be able to finally set all this up and really dig in!

Kerya posted at 8:10PM Fri, 06 March 2020 - #4382590

Yes, DSON handles the morphs. For the textures you will have to remember to load the Poser mc6 materials (which are included in the Dragon 3 files).

What is she reading? Hmmm ... a fairytale book about ... humans? Maybe. LOL

I'd suggest:

• the free DSON Importer for Poser and its extender (I forget what that's called now), for loading older DAZ Genesis figures and props into Poser.

• the latest Scene Toy Pro (paid), for easier and quicker scene work.

• PzDB 1.2 (paid, cheaper than 1.3) for finding and loading stuff as your library expands. Not vital at first, but you may soon find you need it. Although you might wait for Poser 12 and see what changes there are there, and if there's a better Library for handling large runtimes. I'm not sure there will be, but the Library does get a bit better with each release. I tend to use it for Lights and PzDB for everything else.

For custom 'monster fantasy' that's unique to you, you might want the various packs for M3/M4/V4 + morphs that go under names like Creature Creator and similar.

If your story is aimed at a comics format, then Comic Life is a solid layout and lettering software, very much easier to learn and cheaper than Clip Studio.

@ TwoCatsYelling

The best experience you might have if you want to stock up you Poser Content with stunning models would be to simply type in in Google search

free Poser Ds

you will be stunned about the results already on the first page and the models you will see that are offered for free are going to keep you occupied for a long time :) you will be able with this search term to find your favorite creators and sure make big savings for quality stuff. I usually use this term then go to Images it makes life easier to find what I did not know that i could use ....

give it a shot and believe me you gonna have a blast

Hey those are some very cool suggestions.

I really like the looks of Scene Toy Pro. So I'll definitely look into that. I've seen the DSON Importer mentioned a number of times, so that's obviously a no-brainer. For the library/runtime management addon, I think I want to learn the ins-and-outs of how Poser handles runtimes inherently first. I think that'll help me better understand the benefits of using an addon for it. Though, like you said, waiting for version 12 could also be a good idea.

I've been looking through a lot of the packs just for V4 and have been really impressed. Some of them look as good as G8 figures I've seen and used, maybe better in some cases. I've looked at some in the store, and assumed it was for a later Genesis figure, or maybe LaFemme, and was surprised to see V4.2. Not sure how folks pulled that off with such an older figure, but the results speak for themselves. Some skilled folks working with it. I've been bookmarking some V4 stuff for later purchase.

I learned about Comic Life from checking out BlackSun Comics and following some of his content. It looks like a really cool program. Will have to look into that more.

Thanks!

HartyBart posted at 9:28AM Sat, 07 March 2020 - #4382790

I'd suggest:

• the free DSON Importer for Poser and its extender (I forget what that's called now), for loading older DAZ Genesis figures and props into Poser.

• the latest Scene Toy Pro (paid), for easier and quicker scene work.

• PzDB 1.2 (paid, cheaper than 1.3) for finding and loading stuff as your library expands. Not vital at first, but you may soon find you need it. Although you might wait for Poser 12 and see what changes there are there, and if there's a better Library for handling large runtimes. I'm not sure there will be, but the Library does get a bit better with each release. I tend to use it for Lights and PzDB for everything else.

For custom 'monster fantasy' that's unique to you, you might want the various packs for M3/M4/V4 + morphs that go under names like Creature Creator and similar.

If your story is aimed at a comics format, then Comic Life is a solid layout and lettering software, very much easier to learn and cheaper than Clip Studio.

You weren't kidding!

I did a quick search and just in the first few links I clicked there were some gems. Well, I predict some hours being lost in google in my near future lol.

Thanks for the tip!

Incantus posted at 9:41AM Sat, 07 March 2020 - #4382811

@ TwoCatsYelling

The best experience you might have if you want to stock up you Poser Content with stunning models would be to simply type in in Google search

free Poser Ds

you will be stunned about the results already on the first page and the models you will see that are offered for free are going to keep you occupied for a long time :) you will be able with this search term to find your favorite creators and sure make big savings for quality stuff. I usually use this term then go to Images it makes life easier to find what I did not know that i could use ....

give it a shot and believe me you gonna have a blast

If you already have V4 and a couple of her morph packs (Morphs++ are mandatory) then you should try "Sasha-16". Can't remember the source right now because I'm on mobile. Just google for it - the first search result should be bull's eye!

regards, Peter

You should also search this site:

http://www.3dcontentdirectory.com/

Made and maintained by a respected Poser afficionado, and it is very complete for all assets that work in Poser. Worth bookmarking!

regards, Peter

pikesPit posted at 4:09AM Sun, 08 March 2020 - #4382857

If you already have V4 and a couple of her morph packs (Morphs++ are mandatory) then you should try "Sasha-16". Can't remember the source right now because I'm on mobile. Just google for it - the first search result should be bull's eye!

regards, Peter

http://sasha-16.forumprofi.de/t151f23-SASHA-Edition-is-here.html

Hi, Peter,

I have V4, and several related files. Not sure all what I need beyond the base, and the "shapes++". Maybe high res skins?

Here's what I have available through the install manager...

Which stuff should I download in there?

Thanks :)

pikesPit posted at 10:55AM Sun, 08 March 2020 - #4382857

If you already have V4 and a couple of her morph packs (Morphs++ are mandatory) then you should try "Sasha-16". Can't remember the source right now because I'm on mobile. Just google for it - the first search result should be bull's eye!

regards, Peter

Awesome. Thank you for posting the link, Kerya!

Kerya posted at 10:59AM Sun, 08 March 2020 - #4382866

pikesPit posted at 4:09AM Sun, 08 March 2020 - #4382857

If you already have V4 and a couple of her morph packs (Morphs++ are mandatory) then you should try "Sasha-16". Can't remember the source right now because I'm on mobile. Just google for it - the first search result should be bull's eye!

regards, Peter

http://sasha-16.forumprofi.de/t151f23-SASHA-Edition-is-here.html

TwoCatsYelling posted at 1:33PM Sun, 08 March 2020 - #4382889

Hi, Peter,

I have V4, and several related files. Not sure all what I need beyond the base, and the "shapes++". Maybe high res skins?

Here's what I have available through the install manager...

Which stuff should I download in there?

Thanks :)

It's been awhile since I've even loaded V4, let alone the files, but at first glance, and hoping someone will corect me if I'm wrong: You need :

V4.2 Base

V4.2 Skin Maps (std res)Standard Resolution

V4.2 Wet Maps

V4.2 Skin Maps (High Resolution)

V4.2 Shapes++

V4.2 Shapes++ Developers Kit

I _BELIEVE (and I could be wrong) _that all the other files are used by Studio.

Thank you for helping me out!

In fact (as I experienced it) you only need the V4.2 base and the V4.2 Morphs++ (which now seem to be renamed to "Shapes++" for no obvious reason). Everything else is optional only, but not needed for the figure to work.

Once you have Sasha-16 installed, look for the other options that are supported by the figure.It comes with a couple of premade installers which you can run straight from the setup folders,. From what I've experienced, any other injections made for V4 can also be applied.

Remember, it's just V4 again, but with a big lot of improvements.

regards, Peter

Re. your posted screencap:

All you need is

• Victoria 4.2 BASE (last in your list)
• Victoria 4.2 Shapes++ (sixth from top)

Peter

You need my Dalek models in Freestuff, the Batman belt and the smoke grenades.

And if loud rock music is your thing, I happen to have a product in the Marketplace that could be of use.

Guitar wise, search online for Mask-Da. Makes the best guitars I have ever seen, free or paid.

Okay nice.

So, I don't really need everything there, but some of it can be useful. Got it.

Thanks for the help everyone!

I'll be FINALLY getting Poser tomorrow. So, I'll have plenty to keep me busy.

Thanks again!