G8f and g8.1F thy will not load, sometimes forever then after an hour or so Mabey left it loading overnight to see and no dice. goofygrape

First thing to try is opening DS and going to the Help pull down and looking at the error log. At the very bottom of the log you should see the load process from when you started DS. Look just before that for the previous run to see if you can spot where the load process broke.

Second thing to try is to start uninstalling whatever recent G8F products you last installed. Odds are its one of those.

Third thing to try is to locate the G8F Starter Essentials. Uninstall it, then reinstall it. You can do this without uninstalling and reinstalling your other content.

Jason; will do asap thanks for the tip's

Ok, the log file says could not find the output property for formulas Genesis8 female. goofygrape

That's one I haven't heard before. It does sound like you should reinstall the G8F Starter Essentials. It sounds like something DS is looking for is missing and it just keeps looking for it.

Double check that your content directory mappings are correct. You may have installed some G8 assets to a content directory that DS isn't reading.

Which formulas? There are usually a lot of those, they are mostly harmless

The above log is all it said, then tonight G8f would not load log file had row after row of warning's .G8.1f loaded fast so does G3f. I could not possibly account for the log file as a whole, so I just, for now, took all G8f base-files out. Too much to do so little time. Thank's for your guy's help