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Subject: Create prop


Passion3D ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 1:40 AM · edited Sat, 09 November 2024 at 8:08 AM

Hi

My question is probably very simple but I can't find the answer.

When I create a prop:

- I import my .obj file

- In the library window I click on the +.

- I give a name and select what I want to save


But the mesh is included in the .pp2 as "geomcustom".

How do I generate an .obj and have it referenced in the .pp2 with ResFile?


Thanks for your help



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seachnasaigh ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 2:38 AM

As far as I know, you will need to strip the geometry from the .pp2 file.  There are small utility programs for this.  Vanishing Point had Geometry Stripper.  EvilInnocence (makers of the CrossDresser clothes-fitting program have Object Extractor.  Dimension 3D had EmbGeom.


It is possible to manually edit the .pp2 file, but it's easier/faster to use one of those geometry-stripping utilities.

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Passion3D ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 2:59 AM

Geometry Stripper looks very good and is available on renderosity. But when I click on Download, I'm redirected to an external sales site, where the software doesn't exist!

The others can't be found on google




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VedaDalsette ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 7:48 AM · edited Tue, 22 March 2022 at 7:57 AM



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Passion3D ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 8:09 AM · edited Tue, 22 March 2022 at 8:09 AM

Evilinnocence is only for Poser, not for Daz according to the description.

"This utility allows you to extract the object from a Poser prop which has embedded geometry. Simply choose the original prop, and then choose the locations for the extracted object, and the new prop file without embedded geometry."

And it seems to fit my problem



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VedaDalsette ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 4:12 PM

Yeah, but it says this on the page, like it's to be used in DS, not Poser, but it uses Poser props. I dunno.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Tue, 22 March 2022 at 4:22 PM

Daz can open .pp2 files, too, no?

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NikKelly ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2022 at 10:48 AM

Vanishing Point's 'Geometry Stripper' down-load page is not archived by WayBack Machine.

Also, GS may be free, but its 'terms & conditions' prohibit unauthorised redistribution...

There's a ($$) PhilC PZ3 editor which, in passing, can strip selected embedded OBJs...

Ha ! Remembered this tutorial for DIY PP2 hacking....

http://www.cocs.com/poser/props2.htm

Sorta 'Rule of Thumb;: If PP2 / OBJ / MTL less than ~100 kb, Notepad should be okay. Above 100 kb, Wordpad or similar is better, will note 'choke' on file size.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2022 at 11:23 AM

Ha... I had never seen that an obj is a simple text file. I could write a python script one day, just as an exercise

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2022 at 12:37 PM

Dimension 3d"s "Poser File Editor" also has a geometry  stripper tool, which strips out the geometry, creates the OBJ file in the same folder, and creates a link to it in the PP2 file. 



davo ( ) posted Tue, 26 April 2022 at 10:13 PM · edited Tue, 26 April 2022 at 10:13 PM

Here is a manual hack, save the prop to a library of choice, but also save the geometry in a runtime folder of your choice.r0YllyjmVgxEcM0E7hC9vqZEliEkEySW20rK04zh.jpg

You can cut and paste this text, just change the "your folder name:your obj" to the correct info (be sure to get the brackets!):

{
    storageOffset 0 0.3487 0
    objFileGeom 0 0 :Runtime:Geometries:your folder name:your objfile.obj
    }

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Davo



Miss B ( ) posted Tue, 26 April 2022 at 10:40 PM
DCArt posted at 12:37 PM Wed, 23 March 2022 - #4436298

Dimension 3d"s "Poser File Editor" also has a geometry  stripper tool, which strips out the geometry, creates the OBJ file in the same folder, and creates a link to it in the PP2 file. 

Wow, I've had, and used, the PFE for years, and never knew that was one of the Tools.  Kewl!  😁

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EVargas ( ) posted Wed, 27 April 2022 at 5:15 AM

Another tip, if you do it the manual way, using Notepad++, choose "Languages/JSON" for highlight syntax, this will make it possible to collapse the contents inside brackets. Note: this does not mean the pp2 follows JSON file standards, it is just a workaround I've found.


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adp001 ( ) posted Wed, 27 April 2022 at 11:16 AM

https://adp.spdns.org/#ExtractGeometry

Works with P11 and  P12 and stand alone.




Passion3D ( ) posted Wed, 27 April 2022 at 2:38 PM

Thank you all for your answers ;)

Thanks @adp001 for the script, I'll test it tomorrow :)




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adp001 ( ) posted Wed, 27 April 2022 at 4:58 PM

There was an error if used stand alone with Python 3. Please download again.




JAFO ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2022 at 2:35 PM

I mean like really, is all this jumping through hoops necessary at all? I've been saving props to library for 25+ years never had a single problem.... Add prop to library_click on preview image to reload... It always works....Am i doing it wrong or are the propeller heads Rube Goldberging  something simple?...LOL

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adp001 ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2022 at 4:11 PM

If you want to modify or extend a prop, you need a format that is compatible with one of the common modelers (e.g. Blender, Z-Brush, or similar). Poser files are usually not. This is the reason why either know how for the manual process or a script for exporting is needed.




RedPhantom ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2022 at 4:15 PM
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Geometry stripper by vanishing point can be found here https://www.vanishingpoint.biz/freeitemdetail.asp?FreeItemID=421 The download works and is quite simple.


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davo ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2022 at 8:24 PM
JAFO posted at 2:35 PM Thu, 28 April 2022 - #4437856

I mean like really, is all this jumping through hoops necessary at all? I've been saving props to library for 25+ years never had a single problem.... Add prop to library_click on preview image to reload... It always works....Am i doing it wrong or are the propeller heads Rube Goldberging  something simple?...LOL

The reason someone might want to externalize the geometry is because if it's large mesh and has a large file size, having multiple instances of it in your scene might bog down the scene.  Externalizing the geometry will save you some resources.


JAFO ( ) posted Fri, 29 April 2022 at 10:41 AM

@davo

Thanks for the clarification.

The reason I came forward to address this is to encourage new users to go ahead and take the 'easy route' when saving props... After all, you don't have to fully understand the fundamentals of electricity to be able to operate an electric tool/appliance. Creativity isn't dependent on understanding what goes on behind the scenes, you can leave that to someone more qualified, if you want... You can do this, don't get discouraged by what you don't understand...

Y'all have a great day.


NikKelly ( ) posted Fri, 29 April 2022 at 11:20 AM
RedPhantom posted at 4:15 PM Thu, 28 April 2022 - #4437860

Geometry stripper by vanishing point can be found ...

Thank you. For a long time, when-ever I've checked, it's been off-line: nice to have it back !!



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