I tried it on a morph injected M4, just tried to inject the Hiro 4 morph injection pose and then I tried loading in the Hiro 4 character. Neither are working. Maybe i never did the setup. If you think it is that, just remind me how I do it again. thanks. Love esther

Did you initialize both the M4 morphs ++ install and then the H4 morphs ++ install? Each time you install a new morph set (A4, H4, the Elite morphs, ect...) you have to re-initialize them. Even if you did, I found that you have to re run the bat or cmd files periodically. Especially if they stop working. If that doesn't work, try deleting both M4 and H4 and doing a clean install.

that is what i didn't do. I managed to do something and it is all working now. I have never needed to put the idaz folder in the poser content folder before, but this time I needed to do it. Anyway it all seems to be working. thanks. it's been so long since i had a new daz figure i'd forgotten all that.

and now when i search all i find is a whole lot of hits for rdna forum posts that look so useful but when you click on them nothing happens because rdna is closed. Now they float around like digital pollution - all that wasted expertise.

estherau posted at 11:01PM Mon, 06 February 2017 - #4296797

and now when i search all i find is a whole lot of hits for rdna forum posts that look so useful but when you click on them nothing happens because rdna is closed. Now they float around like digital pollution - all that wasted expertise.

"All those moments will be lost - like tears in the rain." Roy Beatty, replicant

I really wish Daz had either kept the forums open or folded the information into their own home forums. There was a ton of great information there...

Between lack of those daz forum posts and the runtime dna ones, with bad links floating like pollution through the internet, it's become really hard to find information compared to last year even. But anyway I got H4 working. I think it was because I ran that command file which caused some other problems but I think I have them all solved now. those dead links make me really sad. All that wasted knowledge. Love esther

The same is here! I had Hiro 4 base and pro bundle and I wanted to use him. I even had a picture of some Hiro's image with morphs and textures which I wanted to recreate and use now. Bot it doesn't work! I remember that I brought Mike into the scene and then erased it and then morphs started working on Hiro - but now everything I do is useless.

Is there an instruction how to install Hiro 4?

My Poser is Poser 2014.

What I do:

1) Open Mike 4 and inject morphs _++.

2) Open Hiro (he comes in as a separate figure) and inject morphs (I have only morphs for Hiro, without ++, in the same place where Mike's are)

3) Try to Use "DAZ's Mike 4 - Morph injections - Hiro 4" from Poses Library - but they dont work! Like @Curved Blinking@ or Realistic face for example.

Morphs from dials work, but they are distorted.

Also, freebies for Hiro 4 from Renderosity (faces) don't work on him. It doen't matter if I keep Mike 4 in the scene or erase him.

I tried to apply Mike's morphs++ on Hiro + Hiro's morphs, but nothing changes.

Am I missing something?

Thank you for reading. ))

Read this thread. Have you tried initializing M4? That has to be done each time you install M4, or install new morphs for him.  It's a .bat file located in the runtime/libraries/!DAZ folder.

It may help to copy the !DAZ folder to your main runtime, if you're using multiple runtimes.

randym77 posted at 3:55 PM Mon, 18 September 2023 - #4474785

Read this thread. Have you tried initializing M4?

But is it normal - that Hiro comes in as a separate figure?

I remember last time I installed him he came as Michael 5 too and after some mumbo-jumbo I managed make him work. But now he's brain dead.

M4 must be initialized for the morphs to work. Perhaps you did it without remembering you did it?

There can be problems if you install it in an external runtime. I think because where Poser looks for the files can be unpredictable. Copying the !DAZ folder into the default runtime means Poser will find it. (You can still have the M4 figure and his stuff in an external runtime.)

Michael 5 does not work in Poser directly. Whatever you did with Michael 5 probably does not apply to Michael 4.

It is normal for Hiro 4 to be a separate figure.

Some things to keep in mind:

The body and head morphs are generally applied separately. So setting the realistic morph to 1 in the body will not affect the face. You need to select the head, and use the realistic dial there.

Some of the morphs aren't meant to be used together. The realistic head morph will look terrible if you combine it with the Hiro morph at full strength. Set the Hiro morph to 0, and the realistic morph will look like it's supposed to.  (You can combine the head morphs at partial strength with good results.)

Just noticed this bit:

Romeo4755 posted at 11:16 AM Mon, 18 September 2023 - #4474770

3) Try to Use "DAZ's Mike 4 - Morph injections - Hiro 4" from Poses Library - but they dont work! Like @Curved Blinking@ or Realistic face for example.

Morphs from dials work, but they are distorted.

The morph injections won't change the figure until you apply them using the dials. The morph injection "pose" just adds the dial to Hiro. You have to adjust the dial to see a change in the figure.

I never use those individual morph injections. You can just inject them all at once using INJ Hiro 4. The individual morph injections date from a time when computers were much less powerful than they are now. People injected only the morphs they needed, to save system resources.

Read this thread. Have you tried initializing M4? That has to be done each time you install M4, or install new morphs for him.  It's a .bat file located in the runtime/libraries/!DAZ folder.

It may help to copy the !DAZ folder to your main runtime, if you're using multiple runtimes.

hborre posted at 8:14 AM Wed, 20 September 2023 - #4474907

randym77 posted at 3:55 PM Mon, 18 September 2023 - #4474785

Read this thread. Have you tried initializing M4? That has to be done each time you install M4, or install new morphs for him.  It's a .bat file located in the runtime/libraries/!DAZ folder.

It may help to copy the !DAZ folder to your main runtime, if you're using multiple runtimes.

That is unnecessary.  The BAT file must be located in the same runtime folder where the M4 base is installed.  If the Poser main runtime is located within Program Files in Windows, there will be further complications with UAC interfering with proper function.  

To be clear...the BAT file is in my M4 runtime. After I run the BAT file, I copy the !DAZ folder to my default runtime. Which is on an external drive, not in Program Files.

The realistic head morph will look terrible if you combine it with the Hiro morph at full strength. Set the Hiro morph to 0, and the realistic morph will look like it's supposed to. 

I think that was it, thank you for the idea. I think last time I zeroed Hiro dial, now the Stylized 2 looks ok, without triangles sticking out of the nose.))

Thank you for the interesting insight about base morphs, I never thought about it so deeply.

>>>>>>>> Michael 5 does not work in Poser directly. Whatever you did with Michael 5 probably does not apply to Michael 4.
No, no, no. Michael 5 here is the figure name Hiro is downloaded from the library because Michael 4 is already in the scene.

Ah, gotcha. FWIW, you shouldn't need M4 in the scene to use Hiro. They're basically the same figure, except for the textures.

Hiro 4 is a derivative morph of Michael 4 and is the same mesh.  The textures can be used interchangeably between the figures.  

Hiro 4 is a derivative morph of Michael 4 and is the same mesh.  The textures can be used interchangeably between the figures.  

Yes, they can. I meant the difference when you load the figures is different textures. That is, Hiro and M4 are the same, if you set the Hiro dials to 0 in the Hiro figure, or inject the Hiro morphs and set them to 1 in M4. They look exactly the same, except the textures.