To beginners like me...it is hard...my art in my gallery proves it...I spend hours doing just one picture..and still I catch major flaws and everything...frustrating it can be...but when just one thing comes out good..I feel like a million.... But hey that's not what I was posting for.... I tip my hat to all you pros out there that help us...You are truely great...and your kindness is appericated...for not calling us stupid...which I can be... My last picture I produced...While you were sleeping took me 5 hours...then when I went to size it down to post...My paintshop made it hazy!...I wanted to scream and cry..how's that for a grown man?...lol... Anyways hang in there with me....thanks to all you great people!.... One day I'll make just one good picture...no flaws...and we can all celebrate... Hang in there beginners....it's hard...but worth it...what is ever easy that we truely want?...nothing

hours- I sometimes spend weeks on a pic

From one newbie to another you are doing very well and soon it will get a littler easier but I think that there is always something new to learn.

5 hours??? Geez, I still can't get one done that quickly LOL!!! After several years at this I still learn things everyday! Hang in there, and just remember to have fun doing it! Pendy

5 hours is just the render time in Bryce. Hehehee, well, onward ho.

it often takes me as long as 3 weeks to get an image done exactly the way I want to, and I have been doing it for awhile now. A good picture with no flaws means you have to step away and judge your work as if it were someone elses, and then be an absolute perfectionist. I fact, i often times try to completely rip myself apart on an image. I dont see anything good about it, I'm looking for ANYTHING wrong to say , nope , thats garbage, try again. Eventually you may be able to put together renders in no time using a lot of free stuff and marketplace items, but to put together a true image that you can call all your own, that anyone else can look at and be impressed, 5 hours is a small time indeed my friend. Dont get discouraged, art isnt meant to be rushed. Your doing fine. The fact that your still trying shows that you are on the right path.

I think I know what you mean.. I kinda get the idea for something when I'm just playin around with the (seemingly_) infinitessimal options and morphs and textures and scenes and models and clothings.. and when I finally do get round to rendering and uploading it I feel really impressed with myself.. but every time I log on I go back to my gallery (to check for comments and to see how they're doin) I find myself looking at the pictures in a whole new light.. and it's never quite what I meant in the first place.. anyhow.. I agree fully that without the pros hangin about spending a lot of their free time making free stuff available for little monkeys like me.. I'd be like an artist with paint, paper... and no goddamn brushL .. it's amazing what has come of this community and it makes me proud to be a (lower) member :D Keep up the good renders and you'll get where you want to be before you even realise what you're doing :) Dolphy..

We also thank the newbies, it helps us remember what we all go through with this 3D art.....we should all be here to help and I thank all that have helped me in the past and still are helping me...Sharen

I once read that traditional Japanese artists, recognizing that nothing is perfect, used to deliberately include a small flaw in all their work. Now I do not know if this is actually true but I find the thought very appealing. - Jack

I've learned more here than anywhere else, on or off the net. Artistic work, I find, is less about the final product and more about the process. I invest myself totaly in the process and once the piece is finished, it's on its own. Jack: That used to be true of the Afghan carpet weavers as well. Q

Yep, I guess we're all always learning something new! And this is THE best and most friendliest place on the 'net to do it! :-) Dave :-) P.S. everchangingdeity, I think your images are really fab!