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Subject: 3DC Free Stuff Hacked!


x2000 ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 7:57 AM · edited Thu, 14 November 2024 at 11:47 AM

Attached Link: http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/forum.mv?Front_Page_News+read+8972270678

Some emotionally unbalanced freak has hacked the Free Stuff at 3DC and caused major damage in the process. If you have any Free Stuff posted over there, READ THIS! PS: I already have the rope. Now we just need to find a nice tall tree... >:(


crisjon1950 ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:03 AM

I don't spend any time at 3D Commune, but I find this kind of attack totally outrageous. (I choose not to repeat some of the unkind words and sympathies running through my mind at this time... in regards to such hackers. But you can use your imagination.) Please pass along my sympathy and best wishes for a speedy recovery.


c1rcle ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:07 AM

I only had 1 freebie up over there so it doesn't effect me that much but some had hundreds and they're all gone, really sick & stupid. :( Rob


x2000 ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:10 AM

Apparently, all of the Poser freebies all the way back to November are just GONE. That's a hell of a loss! I hope they find the slug responsible for this.


Mosca ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:13 AM

Arrgh. What a selfish and stupid act. Probably some pre-adolescent moron who's pissed off because he can't find a warez version of P4...


cooler ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:29 AM

actually some 90% of the database (about 1800 items including 170 of mine :-) was wiped back to November of 2000. Fortunately I have triple redundant backups so it's just a matter of finding the time to re upload & find a way to do so without burying new items as they are posted.


Turtle ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 9:50 AM

This made me so sick to read this over at 3-DC. It has to be a person who knows computers very well to do this! I love that place, even though my gallery is here. The people there are so deciated and helpfull. Catch this creep, who knows what they well do next!! It's this kind of Crap, that make me realize why Ironbear told me not to connect my new computer I'm getting to the internet. Even if it's more work to keep this one for the internet, I will do it. Sad there are people like this in our Poser comminutiy.

Love is Grandchildren.


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 10:02 AM

I had 40 or 50 items up there and I have back-ups of it all, so it'll all be back up again pretty fast. I've been a member of 3D Comm since Day 1, and I hate to see this happen. Shoot the f$%ker at dawn, that's what I say. And again the next morning! And again..... mac


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 10:03 AM

An afterthought I hope this clown doesn't decide to try the same thing with Rosity, Runtime DNA, etc, etc. mac


FyreSpiryt ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 10:05 AM

As I posted at 3DC, my spirit sister summed it up well when I relayed this to her. "How much of a loser do you have to be?" This guy's got some bad karma coming his way. It's not good to have so many people thinking negative thoughts about you; does bad things to your energy field. It'll come back to him, one way or another.


Turtle ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 10:10 AM

FyreSpriyt-Thats like the Native American saying, If you say or do something bad to an person, it will come back at you 100xs worse. I think the person who did this, will find one day his system has blow up, and all he has on his desk is ashes. And the Spirits in the sky are having a good laugh at this evil person.

Love is Grandchildren.


3-DArena ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 10:30 AM

I'm confused about this, I'm off to read it more now but the comment of "Someone that we can't find yet put some commands in the free stuff comments that should have been stripped out but they got the coding wrong!! This mistake in their code allowed it to slip past our security and dumped half of our free stuff database. " Makes it sound like a mistake while further comments imply it was on purpose. hmmmm


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Philodox ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 11:20 AM

It's real simple, M'Lady... From the way it sounds, who ever did the hacking put some code in to do something they shouldn't be(most likely IP Spoofing or something similar), but they really didn't know what they were doing and screwed the whole thing up...

tosses mac a colt .45 You take care of it, man, my aims been off recently...


Virus ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 1:17 PM

Damn! Sorry to hear this, I can't belive what the sick egos from some person could make a harm as this one. I don't used to spend alot of time at 3DC but I want to express y solidarity with them. Persons like this one (who just harm, without pondered the comsecuemces of their acts) must be permanet banned from the Internet. My sincere sympathies for the 3DC community. Virus

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Bobcat ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 1:42 PM

Shooting the slime-ball would be way too merciful.....I think they should be put in a room with all the free stuff contributors when they're caught....and lock the door! I give them five minutes to start begging someone to finish them off..... the answer would be- "NO"!!


chohole ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 1:58 PM

As I just said over at 3dcommune, I don't go there a lot, but when I do I find it a great place, this is vandalism of the worse type and totally sick.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



Jaqui ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 2:13 PM

hmmm, was 3dc on ms iis? only reason I can figure for someone to hack a community site.


queri ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 2:51 PM

There was so much fabulous and different at 3DC-- I went there often. Cooler's and Maclean's stuff was worth the trip alone. Sounds like maybe it was dumb rather than malicious, but one never knows. It's so easy to sign up and have access, I don't understand why someone would try to fake it. But then, I don't understand destroyers anyway. All our best wishes are with you,3DC, so you are already better off than the creep who did this. I hope the restoration goes as painless as possible. Emily


maclean ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 4:20 PM

Quote from Mark at 3D Commune 'It was malicious coding that someone uploaded to the Poser Freebie section. They put a Miva statement in trying to dump the database to them. What happened was our system strips out that kind of code to stop this from happening but somehow this person got enough in as a mistake in his coding to cause the partial dump. Instead of dumping to them as they wanted it dumped on itself and caused the loss.' Philodox - Thanks for the offer of the Colt, but I just bought a Kalashnikov and a few RPGs. Just show me where to aim! mac


TalmidBen ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 6:08 PM

Yep, Cooler, Lourdes, Maclean (maclean's stuff is worth downloading just for the readme), and everyone else - queri is right on there. One thing I love about the freestuff over there is it allows you to comment on it. Ben


hauksdottir ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 7:32 PM

My understanding is that someone was trying to steal the entire database (there are models at 3dc which don't appear anywhere else), and because of stupidity and ineptness managed to corrupt the data instead. Having data dumped back on itself sounds like what happens with cross-linked files (I've seen text and graphic information intertwined in ways which are forbidden in most civilized areas). Why would anyone want to take the entire database at one shot? Probably to sell it as a package. We can add lazy and greedy to the hacker's profile.


Lemurtek ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 12:04 AM

:: Conspiracy mode set to on :: Maybe it's not what you think! The free stuff has taken a beating lately, from many sources, including lately some of the merchants, who feel it's taking away from their profits. Perhaps the hacker was smarter than you think! :: Conspiracy mode set to off :: Regards- Lemurtek (whose probably just kidding, doncha think?)


chohole ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 1:23 AM

I agree with Ben about Macleans' readme files, and with all the comments. I still think this amounts to vandalism, whatever the reason it was done. In the UK vandalism is termed criminal damage, and prosecuted as such if the perpetrator is caught. I sincerely hope this person is caught and dealt with.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



Lemurtek ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 2:10 AM

I only have a couple of free stuff items at 3dc, but it's very discouraging (though not surprising) that someone would put their own personal gain over the welfare of thousands (looking at the news, I guess this is the 'new new economy') Or worse, the attitude of it's not enough that I've got mine, I have to take yours too. Even if they had succeeded in their attempt, the bandwidth usuage would have brought the site to halt. I expect we'll see more of this type of behaviour. Sigh. Regards- Lemurtek


Jaqui ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 4:16 AM

acutally, using miva to pull a db dump is a syupid way to do it. yup the db will have a record of who uploaded the file, so that 3dc can get him/her for thier actions, if they choose to do so. most dynamic scripting laguages can pull a db dump easily enough, specially with ssi enabled, which is required for dynamic scripts. on a server I'm running I would have some sever lockouts in place, besides stripping illegal coding from uploads. and by limiting the scripting language options on the server to one you make it harder for illegal scripts to get through. with high security on a unix/linix box, each person (site) would have a specific login that would give them specific, limited access, with md5 passwords and shadow passwords enabled, a password could conceivably be 256 characters long, and kept in a folder not accesable by anyone browsing to the server...specially when that security level required a password to be changed every month, unless overridden by the root user (system admin for non unix people) about a year ago someone was attempting to hack renderotica through miva. wonder if this is in any way related. wish the db dump(legally obtained even was given access to the db by DSI) from rotica hadn't been lost in a crash..had the hacker's ip in it.


DragonWalk ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 9:54 AM

I must have missed something...seems jimjur's post is deleted?....whatever.... Oh well...I am quite shocked that someone would be so ncredibly cruel and do this...I left my own comment at 3DCommune...this just sucks big...really pathetic...!!


maclean ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 9:56 AM

Jaqui, As I understand it, (see post #19), 3D Comm's server does strip out MIve statements, but the dumbo made a mistake in it, which somehow enabled some of it to get through (but with the wrong effect) Rose, Who are you talking to? LOL Are we in the same thread? Thanks for all the support and the nice comments about my readmes. Ha-ha! Even if the props suck, you can have a laugh. mac


Sacred Rose ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 5:02 PM

HI Mac, hi pete, the person I was talking to had his response removed. So I have deleted mine to avoid extra confusion. Let me know if I can do anything mac, this kind of stuff can really have a devastating effect on many......


maclean ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 5:56 PM

Hi Rose, Good to see ya! I figured it had been deleted. 'this kind of stuff can really have a devastating effect' Thanks for all the support everyone. But I just want to say that I've spent the day revamping a lot of my freebies. Basically just slimming some down in size and fixing a few minor problems. And I'll be reposting everything, but with new, improved versions of a lot of the stuff. Some pieces will become posable cr2s. Plus some new pieces that I never got around to finishing. So, in a way, by making me look at the old props I made, this moron has helped, because now I know a few more tricks in max, I can pep the stuff up a bit. I'd still like to disembowel him though.... mac


WyldeSnake ( ) posted Tue, 30 July 2002 at 12:20 PM

Attached Link: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

Just so you know, these types of people are !NOT! hackers... Because, I one day aspire to be a hacker, and I would like to be able to use the term to describe myself without getting nasty looks and people threatening to kick my ass...


DragonWalk ( ) posted Tue, 30 July 2002 at 10:50 PM

Wow...cool...what kind of axe/cleaver/hatchet did you get to learn that trade...;-)


-Klaus ( ) posted Wed, 31 July 2002 at 6:20 AM

Would "How do you create cr2 files with Poser 4 ?" be an interesting & positive alternative to this thread ?


WyldeSnake ( ) posted Thu, 01 August 2002 at 12:03 PM

...that link I posted WAS a positive alternative. Of course, you'd have to read it first.


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