Ok guys I like all this fractal stuff. I have down loaded a number of fractal programs. Can some kind soul give me a few tips on how to produce some of the amazing pictures I have seen. For example is much work done in photoshop? Or is most done in the fractal program. Help me to be a better Fractalizer?

Which programs did you D/L ?

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Not knowing which programs you have tried, it will be difficult to give you instructions. So here is some general information to get you started. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tutorials on Software use (URL alphabetical order): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://lonestar.texas.net/~dragon13/free_tutorial.html http://perso.club-internet.fr/dreamp/tutorialeng2.htm http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/preslar.html http://www.digitalproducer.com/aHTM/Tutorials/ http://www.digitalproducer.com/pages/fractal_terrains_in_bryce_2.htm http://www.fractalarts.com/ASF/Tutor1.html http://www.geocities.com/soler97/tz-instr.html http://www.lindabucklin.com/flame_tutorial/ http://www.parkenet.org/jp/ufhome.html http://www.thinkpiece.com/resources/tutorial_4.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tutorials on Fractal Creation (URL alphabetical order): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://fractalarts.com/ASF/Tutor1.html http://gallery.uunet.be/LenaertsW/fractals.htm http://home.san.rr.com/jayrhill/iFAQ/Resource.htm (several) http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-42040/mandel.html http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/FRACGEOM/FRACGEOM.html http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS//FRACGEOM2/FRACGEOM2.html http://members.xoom.com/edpizzi/docs/docs.html http://skal.planet-d.net/quat/How.ang.html http://user.tninet.se/~cim027f/CubTut/cubictut.html http://www.eclectasy.com/Iterations-et-Flarium24/stephenf/Tutorials/Coloring/Coloring.html http://www.eclectasy.com/Iterations-et-Flarium24/stephenf/Tutorials/FDimension/dimension.html http://www.olympus.net/personal/dewey/mandelbrot.html http://w1.111.telia.com/~u11109996/CubTut/cubictut.html

Ok the programs I down loaded are... ultra fractal fe 123 kaosrhei visions of chaos I have messed around with all of these. But all I have produced is pretty basic. Here is one effort. 60% ultra fractal, 40% photoshop. Thanks for any help

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Dan, for UF, if you're using UF3, join the mailing list because there's lots of discussion going on right now (it was just released on Tuesday last). For either version, read the help files (UF3's help files are even better than UF2's), do the tutorials (there are 3 superb tutorials included with UF3's help; for UF2, there are loads of tutorials at the UF Resources Page), visit the Resources Page and find out about the mailing list challenges; each of them was designed to teach something specific about UF2........ I've included a link to the Resources Page to get you started : ) As far as the other programs you dl'd, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with any of them and can't provide any assistance; hopefully someone else can come to your rescue ; )

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Well, some people are "purist" and think a "true fractal" does not have any proccessing outside of the software that generated the image in the first place. Personally, I lean towards that philosophy. As a Fractal Animater, it is not practical to create images that contain lots of post-processing that impacts the look of the image. If lots of image processing is done in PhotoShop (et al) then I would call it "Digital Art" (Obvious things like borders and frames would be excluded.) There is nothing wrong with either, but I would be hesitant to call an imgage a Fractal when it would not be recognizable without the post-processing in PhotoShop. The image I posted a link for is a personal example where a fractal is used to make "digital art".