that's it exactly, extra morphs, textures & poses, the textures can be used on the LE version just the same as the morphed version. Rob

Yes. They have the same UV-mapping, so the textures work on both. The full version also has MAT files for your texturing convenience, the ERC dials for easier posing, and a bunch of add-on props (additional spikes, tail tips, and other pointy bits). The full version includes the LE dragon, so save DAZ some bandwidth if you're buying. Looks like the server took another beating.

Looks like the site is over loaded, and the new way of shopping takes a bit of learning...so I am going to wait impatiently till TUESDAY (HOLIDAY MONDAY REMEMBER!!) when I can call DAZ if I have trouble.. but bet it is all fixed by then.. this IS the ultimate dragon!!! ooooooo!! Lyne

Little Dragon- I saw that the full version was supposed to also contain the lite version. I've installed the full version, yet do not see the lite version. Can you tell me where it is?

Hmmm. I was under that impression myself. I initially overlooked the line on the Millennium Dragon page that stated that it included the LE version, and only noticed it later, after I'd already purchased/downloaded both versions. I installed the LE version first, of course, so it was already on my system when I installed the full version. You're right, though. The LE cr2 isn't included in the full version. I suppose that message on the page just means that the Millennium Dragon has the geometry and all the features of the stripped-down LE. If you don't feel like downloading the LE dragon, you could strip all the morphs and ERC code to make your own, but that might take some work.

Thanks, Little Dragon. I'll just download the lite one. Frankly, I had such an awful time buying and downloading the full version and the texture that I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something before using up more of Daz' bandwidth downloading the lite version.

I guess I'll incur the wrath of everyone by saying I just won the complete kit in a raffle this afternoon held by DAZ at DragonCon. I think it's the first thing I've won in about 20 years...'cept for a dollar here and there from the lottery.

Congratulations, ChuckEvans! No wrath from me. At these sale prices, they're practically giving her away, anyway. Treat her well. :)

Yeah, a whopping discount FER SURE! I would bet it has something to do with DragonCon. PS: Wish you had been there, LD. Always wanted to meet the guy who spends so much time helping others!

Will an expert please answer these questions: "WHAT" is ERC ?? And how does it work? Thank you, Alex

• waits for an expert to emerge from the darkness, doesn't see one, steps forward *

I'm not an expert, nor do I play one on TV, but ....

ERC (Enhanced Remote Control) is an advanced CR2 technique that gives you better control over a figure.

For instance:

Partial body morphs: many morphs linked to one control dial and activated simultaneously
Joint-controlled morphs: morphs linked to joint movement
EasyPose: complex poses generated by a single control dial

In the case of the dragon, ERC is used in many places to make the wings, neck, and tail more easily posable (fold or flap the wings with just one dial!); to link the poseable jaw to the head for Mimic-compatibility; and other stuff I probably haven't noticed yet.

Robert Whisenant (rbtwhiz) is one of the pioneers of ERC; he has a tutorial on his website if you want to delve into the technical aspects of this ... uh ... technique.

Excellent reply, much appreciated. I will bookmark that site, thank you. Alex

I bought the texes & LE dragon, saving the full version for next weekend. If you're going to do this too be aware that the texture pack doesn't seem to include the wing membrane transparency map, though it should be easy enough to create a simple one of your own. I managed to figure out that you had to switch the forked tongue's visibility on and the regular tongue's off for the echt reptillian look, but has anyone found a way to hide the fact the forked tongue originates in the middle of the lower jaw when the mouth is open?

Oh lord, brace yourselves for a flood of Naked Dragons in skimpy armor fighting mean Vickies and Stephanies in temples for the next few weeks......- Wait, I meant the other way around. I think I had too many Corona's this holiday weekend

lmao JV!!

We're going to need a larger temple. RHaseltine: You can use the MAT files to give the dragon a small, forked, reptillian tongue, or you can set the individual dials manually. So you could still have the larger tongue that originates at the base of the throat, with a forked tip. The full Millennium Dragon comes with a wing-membrane transmap, so once you have that, you're all set.

thanks LD,I'd wondered if it was possible to "graft" the forked tongue to the standard tongue - I'll give it a try.