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Subject: Comments on texturing appreciated & link to free software....


hewsan ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 1:42 AM · edited Sun, 02 February 2025 at 11:56 AM

Attached Link: http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/PlantStudio/

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Greetings, long time Bryce user (since version 1) but I'm staying for now with Bryce 4. Don't post often to this forum, and i have posted this image to the Bryce Gallery as well, but it will get buried there very fast, so i'm here... Playing with the free software Plant Studio (can be found at the link) and using Bryce 4 procedurals to texture. Think they are working, but the only posted reply was very much on the critical side - so i seek more opinions. Your comments would be appreciated. best hewsan.


airflamesred ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 2:36 AM

the textures look fine though some of the leaves look to square.


hewsan ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 2:50 AM

The leaves, and the rest of the plant model, are as they came out of the software, just smoothed (at 30 degrees) in Bryce. Used various texturing strategies (though all are based on bryce 4 procedural mats) for the texturing.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 3:20 AM

Thanks for the post and the link, looks great! I'll have to check it out. AgentSmith

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Zhann ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 6:02 AM

I think they look great, thanks for the link, I've been looking for a way to make plants...=)

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Aldaron ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 7:28 AM

Personally I think they look fine, though they do have a diseased look to them which I assume is what that only comment was talking about when they posted about "camoflage". Other than that you're on the right track. Maybe just get rid of some of the brown and go with natural greens. Unless you want that look.


hewsan ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 11:59 AM

Aldaron, i live in a rural area, mountains (or properly they should be called hills....) all around. Very few plants manage to remain free of some form of attack and decay, often showing in their leaves, though the plants survives... Instead of the greenhouse plant look, was trying for what i more typically saw in the wild. Not beyond helpful criticism by any means, i believe it's the only way to improve is by seeing through other's eyes, but at the same time feel the need to know that the one offering the advice knows of what they speak. Have checked the post and gallery of those that offer me advice and use this to weigh what is said. Ties in to the discussion that is going on here at the moment. To me art is a fun pastime, what i am after may not be what another is, neither is the more "correct", and both of us may not understand what or why the other does as they do, i post to find a concensus with those that share similar interest in the same direction as myself, and use what is gratefully said, criticism or praise, to see what i have managed to do in a different perspective... best, hewsan


hewsan ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 1:48 PM

Been seeing the image i posted here a bit different since making my last post. On one hand i am pleased that i managed to manipulate bryce's mats to produce very close to what i wanted... On the other hand feel that i may have went to far in that direction for general use in using them in any type of completed scene. Toning down the "diseased" look is something that will be much easier to accomplish then what i did to get this. And of course can go from what's seen here through to completly healthy specimens to add visual variety... Thanks again, and I'm glad that i posted here. best, hewsan


Aldaron ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 2:59 PM

You're very welcome, glad I was able to help.


lsstrout ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 3:09 PM

Hewsan, When I first saw the plants, they looked perfectly normal to me, but I go for a lot of walks in the local parks and day hikes during the summer. I think the leaf shapes on the very top plant look a little odd, but I think the rest look good. Thank you for link, I'll have to poke around there a bit. Lin


hewsan ( ) posted Fri, 04 October 2002 at 8:29 PM

Isstrout appreciate the comment, and believe that you have also noticed the reality of the hard existence that most plants, outside of a garden, contend with. The software is something that I'm just learning how to handle. I believe that you will like it and the range of plants that can be produced is much greater then the few examples shown here. Thanks, hewsan


Zhann ( ) posted Sat, 05 October 2002 at 12:16 AM

Hewson, I dowloaded the software, and it's great fun to grow the plants you make, I gave it to my niece for her biology classes, hope it comes in handy...I know I'll have use for it :>...

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miden1138 ( ) posted Sat, 05 October 2002 at 12:33 AM

Tell the truth, when I first saw them, in the first post and this one, I thought that the textures were darn near perfect. Most of what is done for plants in 3D work looks too good to be true. I thought that these had just the right amount of wear and tear.

I would probably go as far as making transparancy maps for them to rough up the edges a little bit. Give them that extra little bit of worm-chewed realism. :)

If I remember correctly, 3D World magazine had a really good tut in it about texturing a leaf. Might want to check their website and see if its there.

Anyway, HTH, and good luck with the DTE in Bryce. I've made a couple of forays into it in the past, to "really learn it", and I'm still reeling from the experience.

Mike


bikermouse ( ) posted Sat, 05 October 2002 at 4:17 AM

hewsan, I've played around with plant studio. It is really an accomplishment to make plants made in it look this good! - TJ


hewsan ( ) posted Sat, 05 October 2002 at 6:07 PM

Zhann, miden1138 & bikermouse appreciate the complements. It's an addicting type of program, very well thought out and easy to get interesting results. The DTE is still very much a mystery for me as well. Do a bit, make a change in one parameter, look, shake head and change a bit more.


ttops ( ) posted Sun, 06 October 2002 at 11:43 AM

Thanks for the link hewsan. Much appreciated, TT.


SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Sun, 06 October 2002 at 2:57 PM

Thanks for the link. My still lifes should really take off now. Now if I could find a fruit generator.


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