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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2025 Jan 06 7:01 am)
More information from MetaC's press release: Corel did not buy Poser. It says MetaC will announce the acquisition of Poser later this week. It also says that Adobe bought not only Canoma, but Carrara as well. This is strange as I saw no mention of Carrara last week in the Adobe announcement. Perhaps I missed it.
Adobe Carrara? Boy that'll be interesting. I wonder who'll end up with Poser... Just as long as it doesn't become a $1000 plugin for 3ds Max...
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Corel has a habit of lowering the price of items, not raising it. It's likely Painter will end up wrapped up with KPT in a $78 bundle at your local Costco or something... With a Linux version on the way in a year or two. I don't think they do Mac software though that I know of. If so this may or may not change that. I see no mention of Adobe getting Carrara on metacreation's site. Got a URL for that one and maybe enough of a quite that I can scan for it?
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heya; corel did coreldraw for mac once upon a time. (it couldnt unseat illustrator on that platform, though.) i just hope they dont bundle EVERYTHING into one gigunda package, so you have to buy 800$ worth of paint and trace and thumbnail and colour correction and what-all-not stuff you never use, just so you can use 'draw. (sheesh! :) )
Does anyone have any basis for this Carrara rumor? I've done searches on both Metacreation's and Adobe's sites and come up empty.
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LOL, you mean make it even worse than RDS?! I have Photoshop, but use it only when PhotoImpact or PhotoPaint don't cut it. Photoshop's interface makes me spit everytime. I certainly would never buy a 3D tool made with an Adobe interface. If Adobe got Poser, it would be back to the bad old days of versions 1 and 2. (is drowned in the flood of cries of 'I loved the old versions!') :-D
Corel ALREADY long ago bought Ray Dream Studio guys, and has been packaging it ever since then as Corel Dream in Corel Draw. They also based their own 3d fontographer gizmo of Corel Draw 7 on Ray Dream studio's engine too. Bryce would logically be dumped into the Corel Draw package, along with the real and latest versions of Ray Dream Studio, since Corel left off updating Corel Dream when they purchased it way back at version 4. Painter would most likely replace or get integrated into photopaint. As to Adobe, the BEST possible fate any of these products could have is to go to Adobe. I mean think about it. Corel is a hack shop. They sell low end software erm... well just like Metacreations did. Not BAD softare mind, but NOT industry standard software either. Anything picked up by Adobe will immediately be conformed to graphic industry standards, and if not, Adobe will MAKE a new standard and bequeath it onto us graphics slaves. Why do I say this is good? How many of you work in this industry for a living? I do. It DID cost me a fortune to lay hands on and learn industry standard graphics applications, sure. They were ALREADY industry standard. Those of you who today would not be given the time of day with Carrerra, Bryce, Canoma, Poser or Painter on a resume, as far as getting a job goes, would suddenly be a leg up and better off if Adobe picked these up. I am not sure how to explain what I mean, and I don't want to come off as a snob. Really. But I guess what I am trying to say is this, so what if Adobe skyrockets the price tag? You can get work knowing this software, if Adobe picks it up, and in 3e billable hours, make enough money to go buy anyones blasted software you want. See? The user interface sure, may turn GREY. Good. Grey does not leave a color cast or influence the eye when one is working. Adobe will toss in industry standard layers, multiple undoes and redos, industry standard export filters, and release one hell of a cool SDK for you coder types who always dreamed of hacking your own plugins for Metacreations software. The software will then go from "hobbyist" software to "serious graphics industry" software, and you who always wished you could quit your day job, and work as an artist like I do, can then go and say to prospective employers, "Let me show you what I did in Adobe Carerra, and what I can do for you." and this is a GOOD thing. Work is good.
2 moans about Corel stuff:- (1) Corel Draw automatically alters Windows's "filename suffix to which program called when clicked" binding. That is a pest, and that is why I don't use Corel Draw. (2) In ancient times when Quattro Pro was on DOS, it had an incredibly marvellous versatile graph plotting package, and we had it in the students' PC room here, and most of the use that it had here was to plot graphs, not for spreadsheet calculations. Now that Corel have got hold of it, that graph plotting package has been stripped right down to next to nothing and the user can't even specify X values at all. :-(
Hi Folks! Bast makes a good point. A continuing irony for my 3D and Animation class is that the core software used--Infini-D, Bryce, Poser--are not industry grade, so many of the aspiring animators fear that their training will be meaningless. If I were a professional shop I probably wouldn't hire a kid solely on the basis of that one course, but even my most talented students will need some exposure to the big guys--3DS, Lightwave, Electric Image-- if they're serious about entering the industry. My fear is that Adobe is already overextended. Peter (Dr Zik)
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Attached Link: http://www.maccentral.com/news/0004/10.corel.shtml
According to MacCentral, Corel purchased numerous products from MetaCreations, including Painter, Kai's Power Tools and Bryce. No mention of Poser was made in the article, though that may just be an oversight.