How the heck did you get them to bounce like that? Nicely done sir.

No problem, thanks for your input so far. I apperciate it. I will leave it up a few days longer then run with it. ;~)

Ok so I just figured out how to insert a pic. LOL

Ok, made the suggested changes. Also, noted some good points from SilverBlades tutorial. The results are much better. IMHO> but I’m just a hack. So if you can give a moment to look let me know your opinion. Thanks

http://www.shoop3d.com/UNDERWATER_CAUSTICS01.zip

This link is a picture. Took a bit longer to render than I thought. But well worth it.

http://www.shoop3d.com/UNDERWATER_CAUSTICS01.jpg

 Nuts I thought I could practice my Spanish.
Rendering the scene presently will upload picture and new zip when done.
You don't remeber because you don't know who I am. LOL no big deal really. 

En primer lugar muchas gracias por su ayuda señor.

Recuerdo la primera vez que se inició con el programa. Usted me dijo que hacer grandes cosas. Donde la correcta. Su trabajo es increíble.

I made the changes that you recommended and the improvement is very noticeable I think. Thanks again for your help.

Any other suggestions on this pre-set are more than welcome jefe.

I will up load the new scene shortly if you have interest.

 I knew I could count on you thanks for the input. I will make some changes. :~)

 Then try the second one. It works. ;~)

LOL  no need to tap my key board, just laughing out loud. 

Look mate. Most of e-ons revenue comes from the US. That's a fact. So unfortunately for e-on they have to put up with those crazy Americans or go broke. 

Does it take a bloody monolithic company to write software correctly? To run a web site effetely? To advertise honestly? To be accountable to your customer base and transparent enough not to have guys like me that enjoys the software complain? I really don't think so mate. 

Honey or vinegar makes no difference. Until the management changes, big or small. Things at e-on will stay the same. It has nothing to do with what country you live in. If enough people discover the truth, perhaps e-on will have to recognize they need to change how they do business. It doesn't take a big company to do that Blade. It takes a rifle shot business plan NOT a shotgun plan that they have going on now. 

BTW I've talked till I'm blue in the face with e-on. More than you have I will wager.

Hey loved that new tut you put up. ;~)

Until e-on drops their hats size down a few increments they may not be open to our input. For now as long as there are customers that will put up with bugs and the way the company is run. There is no incentive for e-on to get better at what they do. 

There is a management pattern here if you really look at it. It's not just the software, it's the whole company. The web site is very hard to deal with as well. Ordering should be seamless. With e-on it is not. Perhaps for some this type of company structure is acceptable. For many it is not. Even production companies are getting fed up with how e-on operates. Just ask the Battle Star Galactica producer. They where extremely upset. The list is long.

There needs to be accountability and transparency.

Fact the US branch of e-on software is nothing more than a UPS store that ships the product. The really people running the show are in France. Nice smoke screen. Online you can't even know their real names as they will use an alias. It goes on and on. I could write a book on what you should know about e-on software before you buy. LOL.

Once again lucky for e-on they have a good program that many will love it only it would work as advertised.

Let the ego warriors light the flame throwers. LOL

 I couldn't agree with you more Jeff. Well said.

 A team of 7 programmers? And I bet they are all top notch. Adobe knows how to write software. They have been the industry standard software for years. In the spirit of solid stable program writing. e-on should be taking notes. 

My guess is the Adobe re-write will take a lot of time. Because they want it to be stable and solid. I doubt very much you will see frequent bug occurrences if any. Because these guys know how to write good software from the start. And for give me Rich, but writing software is writing software. Sure cropping a photo is nothing like building a 3D landscape. But writing the code is not making the picture. It's building the tool to make the picture. Maybe you can see the difference? E-on does not have 7 programmers and the ones they have? Well we sure see a lot of bugs don’t we. If you do it right the first time you don’t have the problems that e-on ends up with on every single build.

 Personally I will be very interested in the new improved Photo Shop. I know I will get what was advertised and what I paid for. And isn’t that what everyone wants?

 I agree the interface is great to work with. Vue is a great tool to have in the tool box.

Your final comment is the truth. But that being said don't expect it to change. But it can be dealt with.

Fortunately for e-on the software for the most part is a great tool. 

Well thank you sir, I appreciate your comment. Have a great day

Once again Mr. Walters you prove my point.

I do not make any claims. I speak the truth.

I am not a serious artist or I would not even bother responding to your posts Chip.

I've seen you do this to others. Reading what you want into their words. Twisting them to meet your purpose.

I hold no contempt for Vue or anyone here for that matter. I do however have an opinion and a right to express it. Go ahead and give me your professional critique. As you sir are a proven digital artist with many credits to your name. I welcome your opinion of my nude wallpapers. ;~)