.."empty space where the "credits" are supposed to go"... It is more revolting than that Kate! If there are no "credits" posted by the artist we are informed that "The artist did not list any additional credits for this item" ( naughty little artists! ). I must admit, I have never thought of my images as items. Kind dialyn! everything you say is very resonable and I can clearly see your point of view. Many artists here work in some kind of design context and know that there are better creative choices to be made to enhance the functionality of Renderosity. What may seem on the face of it to be superficial details are in fact very important issues, otherwise these changes would not have been implemented in the first place. I would never challenge the right of Renderosity to rearrange this site in any manner they see fit. The problem is when the change is presented as one thing and manifests as something other. On your point about revitalising the site to attract more people. Surely it is the work posted that brings in the viewers, not the design of the site. The way the boxy format pushed up against the images was a prime example of why I personally protested against this new format. This is less a war and more of a skirmish in order to make feelings known and negotiate a few compromises, which is the process you are now witnessing. My main income is derived from designing exhibition stands. The most important issue for me and my clients is getting across a clear message that can be scanned by even the most casual passer by. We live in an age of information overload and over design, in most cases it is totally gratuitous and the only reason it is done is because it can be done. The anger expressed by myself and others comes from a feeling that whoever designed the new format? should know better!. Less is more! One last thing patient dialyn. I paid a visit to your gallery. You get far more viewings than myself, however the comments function seems not to be enabled? Regards to all. Brendan.

"big boy toy"?......naah!....comfy slippers.

Let's call it a cliche and the challenge is to rise above it! I think it would be a fun one to work on. Cheers!

LONDON : UK . Age : 46 ( mental age 12 going on 90 ) and that's about all there is!

Good stuff all round! Cheers to all!

Am I to understand that the MarketPlace Manager is responsible for the design ethos in the art galleries? We already have the "Renderosity feel" on the whole page. Now we have a "Renderosity feel" format within a format. How about putting a box around every word and be done with it! The new features guiding viewers to the MarketPlace are fine ( for those that want them ), the new design is gratuitous and from my personal creative point of view it lacks credibility. "aesthetically pleasing" not by a long shot! Cheers!

Yes! even that small change back to the old description format really helps the eye. In my ire I should have thought to mention that the dates attached to the comments is a GOOD! idea. It has pointed-up to my attention that images do not get buried in the back pages, there are plenty of comments that come months later. Another thing I should say is that the new format for the artists pages that were instated a while back, were a great improvement, so some belated praise is due for that. Feeling less churlish today..... Cheers!

....also! why is it that we can't see who gave what rating? I, for one, would like to know who thinks what about my images......the omission is a green card for trollers. A lot of time and effort could be saved by going back to the old format and then consulting the community at large about these changes, rather than building-up from such a weak foundation. Don't box us in! Cheers!

It really, really stinks! Change back now! Pheeeewww!!!! Thanks.

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I wonder how far it can count to? Zillions of Squillions? Very impressive!

I will try this one Pam!. There was a time when I could not understand the virtue of Colour Families now I can't live without them. There was a time when I thought I had to have the whole scene in front of me but now I toggle backwards and forwards from the hide objects mode. There was a time when I thought I did not need to learn keyboard shortcuts, what a fool! The list is endless, and here is another thing to try. Cheers Pam!

I agree with Spike on the subject of imports. At what percentage does an image remain Bryce?, 80%, 50%, 10%? There is large scope for making models in Bryce, it just calls for a bit of hard work and ingenuity. I am against postwork as well! unless we call this the Mixed Medium Guru contest. Either it is Bryce or it is not! If other artists are like me? ,there will be tools and buttons in Bryce that have yet to be explored for their full potential, the features in Bryce are many and various and in some cases hidden!. Time to reveal them to the world. I do a lot of abstract stuff in Bryce and wonder if there should be a few categories so as to spread the field? Sci-fi, Landscape etc. A good prize would be for Corel to create a Spline tool for everyone to download, with an Extrude tool for second prize. Any ideas for a third? Cheers.

What about a Bryce slander contest, yet again this week I had to read through a rundown of the best 3D software, only to see bryce restricted to being a Landscape renderer! Arrrgh! The themes could be based on what they say Bryce can't do, then we could show them how wrong they are! It's all about ingenuity and creativity. Not "how big is my software". Oh dear! another rant. oops!.