FirstBastion posted at 1:27 PM Tue, 4 June 2024 - #4485684

The LadyDeath is fairly easy to KITBASH cause it is basically a bikini with garter and hose, long gloves and a full length cape.  all black with long white hair. There is no shortage of those pieces floating around.

Witchblade on the other hand,  is iconic and unque,  and generally a better comicbook too with Sara's story.

True but to be AUTHENTIC for lady death, you need it to adorned with skull jewelry, etc.  Problem with trying to find outfits for these and even other fan art characters is one reason: copyright. And I know many people making stuff for DAZ don't want the good old LAWSUIT for doing that.   Its looking like I may have no choice but to really start making my own assets for DAZ.

It would be best if it was for Genesis 8 Female.

I will take that as a no.

Basically This as references.  If you used to read their comics, you know this is the outfit styles in a way I am trying to find.

My apologies again for confusing everyone...

No Im sorry for the confusion.  However, it don't help them though for me cause I won't buy anything from DAZ is what I am trying to say cause of them siding is what I meant.  I just wish companies would just STAY OUT of politics and such and just leave that shit out of what they sell, etc.   I'm just hoping some that have moved to DAZ continue to sell on Rendo, otherwise those that aren't, well, they won't be getting business from me anymore.

EDIT: And if people need more clarification on WHAT i am trying to convey, go to DAZ Store and look under Gen 9 of the models and it will show Masculine/Feminine and then "NON BINARY"...that is why I am no longer giving them my money.

DeeceyArt posted at 3:35 PM Mon, 15 April 2024 - #4483631

I'm confused. What does a shirt sold at DAZ have to do with politics or vendors leaving Rendo?

Its not rendo, its DAZ itself.

EDIT:  Sorry should've clarified.  Its not on renderosity.  Its DAZ's stance on "things".

FirstBastion posted at 10:00 AM Sun, 14 April 2024 - #4483590

This is not direction I intended this thread to go. And,  I am certainly in the NO AI ART camp, and AI ART is Copyright infringement,  but can you go start your own thread to rail against it somewhere else. 

My apologies.

Razor42 posted at 8:22 PM Sat, 13 April 2024 - #4483579

Time will tell, it helps to think of AI as a tool rather than as an evil cotton spinning machine.

Like most tools it's use could be nefarious or productive, it depends on the wielder or the implementation in use.

Personally I don't think it is a bad thing for a business to be on the technological edge. Honestly if you are not moving with technology, you are being left behind to some degree. 

And regardless of whether anyone likes it or not, LLM's are here and are being implemented in almost every possible imaginable application and likely some that are entirely unforeseen at this point. LLM's are an established disruptive technology and at this point there really isn't a two fork road anymore.

Honestly If you don't like AI you might need to shift from using computers/cell phones at some point and perhaps move off the grid.

I know art is a very personal thing and honestly I still like the feel of a human creative process visible in "artwork" but at this point it is getting harder and harder to distinguish or even define what that truly means.

I thought I would help you guys out by making a list of things to avoid such as industries that are integrating AI or LLM assistance into their workflow or Software companies who are integrating AI as part of their overall offering. Just to help put some perspective on this for you.

Industries

- Healthcare

- Banking

- Logistics

- Retail Services

- Cyber Security

- Transportation

- Marketing

- Defense

- Coding

- Education

- Office Admin

- Legal

- Language Translation

- Data management

3D Software Companies embracing AI

- Maxon (Owners of Zbrush & Cinema 4D)

- Autodesk ( Maya, 3DS, Autocad, mudbox)

- Blender (Multiple AI addons including an official stability addon)

- Adobe (Generative AI in PS etc)

- Sketchup (Official Sketchup Diffusion)

- Rhino (Supporting numerous official addons to integrate Generative AI)

... ...

General Companies

- IBM

- Amazon (Including web services)

- Microsoft

- Google

- Alphabet

- Adobe

- Oracle

- Baidu

- Nvidia

- Meta

- GoDaddy (Renderosity's Website host provider...)

I can add more if you would like but these are just a small sample of some of the major ones.

Hope this helps.

AI being used to Improve Art as I have said is one thing, but using it to MAKE ART TOTALLY is literally ART THEFT is what many in the art communities are trying to say.  And there are IGNORANT people out there using it to grab a quick buck or two without giving a DAMN.  They know there are gullible people out there to feed on and abuse which is also RUDE, ARROGANT and BEYOND CRIMINAL.  I'm sorry but, if your a person that will feed on other people's misgivings just to gain money, I will not tolerate you or even deal with you.  It is people like that why the world is what it is right now.

Nevertrumper posted at 4:59 AM Sat, 13 April 2024 - #4483557

gohanf22 posted at 7:19 AM Wed, 10 April 2024 - #4483432

And I will add that AI is destroying Artist's way of life and careers.  People making things in 15 mins is NOT ART. It is ART THEFT no matter how you look at it.  If you are mainly using AI to create your stuff, that is stealing from other people and if you do not have consent to use their artwork, that is THEFT PERIOD.  I'm glad there are many that are taking a stand on this and trying to make AI not allowed in the Entertainment Industries cause it is literally THEFT.

IMO, you are completely correct with this. That's why every posted AI image isn't protected by owner's rights.
If anyone's AI image would be useful to me, I'd steal it and won't give a sh*t.
Generative AI is nothing more than a tech show saying pretty much:
"Look, what can be done, now"
Nothing more and nothing less.
AI users are no artists!

Oh its bad.  And there are stupid people out there that will pay money to this Scam of GINORMOUS PROPORTIONS.  I'm sorry but 100+ bucks or more for something that was generated from other people's artwork is blatant Theft and Plagiarism and anyone doing it should be given criminal charges.  And anyone who pays said person the money for it is just plain stupid and don't know what a scam is even if it came up and bite em.   I won't support DAZ for much longer.  I aim to literally move from it permanently in the forseen future.  Promoting AI and also promoting Political Agendas is 2 things that will LITERALLY destroy your company and at this point, I don't think they care and are just milking the money till it runs dry.  I feel bad for people that depend on DAZ for the rest of their lives cause unless you learn other programs, your going to be SOL in the forseen future when DAZ more than likely goes belly up from this whole situation.

And I will add that AI is destroying Artist's way of life and careers.  People making things in 15 mins is NOT ART. It is ART THEFT no matter how you look at it.  If you are mainly using AI to create your stuff, that is stealing from other people and if you do not have consent to use their artwork, that is THEFT PERIOD.  I'm glad there are many that are taking a stand on this and trying to make AI not allowed in the Entertainment Industries cause it is literally THEFT.

Nevertrumper posted at 12:21 AM Wed, 10 April 2024 - #4483424

gohanf22 posted at 12:55 PM Tue, 9 April 2024 - #4483402

FirstBastion posted at 10:27 AM Thu, 4 April 2024 - #4483243

So Daz finally did it,  they added an AI generation tool to their site.

Not only that, they have succumbed to the "pandering" of agendas.  You go look at their site, they have now in categories "NON BINARY".  I'm sorry but every sane person that uses daz or no longer uses daz knows Gen 9 was a STUPID move and pandering to the small 1 percent of people in the world that don't exist.  nuf said.  soon as i learn blender/zbrush, I am done with DAZ.  i will not give them a penny anymore.  i have ways to get what i need without paying a cent.

Right now 3d is a difficult time anyway.
DAZ struggles to find its way and made a lot of bad decisions, Poser is stuck in the 2000s and has become meaningless as a vintage figure animation app and Reallusion is super expensive and has a steep learning curve, if you really want its full potential.
Reallusion figures and Metahumans have their limits compared to Poser or DAZ-Genesis figures.

In a way it is.  EIther your using Blender, or Zbrush, or any other main 3D program, or your screwed on becoming professional.  I intend to learn Blender and Zbrush and move away from Daz totally asap.  I will not use a software from a company that has succumbed to the ESG money.  Screw that.

FirstBastion posted at 10:27 AM Thu, 4 April 2024 - #4483243

So Daz finally did it,  they added an AI generation tool to their site.

Not only that, they have succumbed to the "pandering" of agendas.  You go look at their site, they have now in categories "NON BINARY".  I'm sorry but every sane person that uses daz or no longer uses daz knows Gen 9 was a STUPID move and pandering to the small 1 percent of people in the world that don't exist.  nuf said.  soon as i learn blender/zbrush, I am done with DAZ.  i will not give them a penny anymore.  i have ways to get what i need without paying a cent.

Thing is that armor is SOOO obsolete now cause it was made for V4 and I really don't feel like messing with trying to fix it on gen 3 or gen 8 with the clothing fitter. Rather have a brand new outfit for gen3 or gen8 already made or as I said I will pay someone to make it and I don't care how long it takes. I had this same situation trying to find a damn black cat outfit. I found eventually that was for gen3. Anyway, I digress. I guess I'll have to try to request one or something.

I know but I'd rather get at least the damn top the way I want it from the game. Like in the game it has the straps around the upper arms to show off the shoulders. Very very sexy I might add. I just wish I could find ONE person to have something like that or even make one. I'd pay good money for one, well, not alot but I'd pay them definitely to make one. Lol.