okey dokey, I"ll give it a try Jules...thanks for the headsup! :D Karen

one last question tho...I spawned as morph target, and saw it save a dial under "Other" called Wave1, but it also saved a dial also under "Morph" as I named it, BiteLip...when I adjust the "Wave1" dial to 1, it is the morph I just created...when I dial the BiteLip under Morph, it's not the morph I created using the deformer...weird... I guess I'm confused, because the manual said I could now delete my deformer, which I did (after I save the pz3) but then the morph "Wave1" disappeared too and the BiteLip morph dial was still wrong... I read and saw I have to save the original figure back to the library so that when I open it that dial will be there...so I reopened the pz3 and saved Miki back to figures before I deleted the deformer, and when I reopened it that dial was there...why does the "Wave1" dial work but the "BiteLip" dial doesn't...

been back from class for a little while and played around as you instructed (((huggggs))) the stuffins outta ya...thankyou!! I think I'm on the right track now...thanks for having the patience and taking the time to help me...I'm so excited! ;D Karen

well, I see a tiny little something happening, but nothing near what I'm wanting...I can't make the left side of the bottom lip, where I think I have the "zone" centered around, go back towards the inner mouth so it is more inside under the top teeth... I have to run to town to art class now, so I'll check back later tonight and see if there are any more tips or pointers in the right direction...thanks! :D

rrrrghh...well, I've created the wave and think I have scaled the zone as I want and placed it over the area of the lip I want to affect...but when I go to the wave object itself and fiddle with all those dials for rotation, phase, etc...nothing seems to happen ;/~ I'm hopeless! I'm even trying to follow along in the Poser 6 manual but I just can't seem to make anything happen...I've been fiddling for 1/2 hour or more...geeze Louise, I know I have to be doing something wrong...anyone with patience still wanting to offer pointers, will be appreciated!! ;)~ Karen

dang man, you're a bit tightly wound over this aren't you! I think I'll keep my distance so I don't get a splattery shower when you finally pop LOL why don't you chill out and then try to find out exactly what you're doing wrong to have such horrid problems with this character...everyone else seems to love him...me included ;P

svdl...they're gorgeous, thankyou!!

Acadia...I forgot about that, but you're right...before I moved from Canada to the USA, I always thought Canada was behind the times, but I've since found out different!! in my hometown, it was legal for a woman to go topless as well, the bylaw being passed also in the 90's...

linkdink...I'm from Hamilton, Ontario, it's at the extreme Western tip of Lake Ontario...not far from Niagara Falls! speaking of which, that wasn't the only nautral attraction in the area falling (dpending on one's age) ;D lol ;D

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I've been wondering too...I hope she's on the road to getting things put back together as best she can...thanks for making the post...

ahhh,kewl...thanks mariner, I never thought to check the render settings DoH thanks for the help! :D Karen

yep, sure is normal for Daz, it blew my mind too...I've never been disappointed with them or their customer service...and, 'cause I'm a packrat, I downloaded them ALL...cause ya just never know when yer gonna need something, and I'd rather have it and not use is than need it and not have it...that's why I have like, 35 runtimes, or thereabouts...no, really! ;)~ lol Karen

I love the Joan of Arc armor at Daz, I bought it quite some time ago...the others are extremely beautiful, but I find them to be more sexy than real...if you're going for sexy instead of accuracy, I'd go with them...but if you want a real suit of armor, go with Joan of Arc...and it's on a fantastic sale right now, I see :)

the Scatters are great, I have them and love them...

awesome! thanks for sharing that...I've become SO frustrated with Poser for the same reasons...I render large images, or TRY to anyway :( when you have a high end pc with lots of RAM, there should be no reason to get these memory errors...hopefully they will be able to address the issues within Poser itself, I REALLY look forward to that! :D

ohhhh nooooo Mr Bill!! I shouldn't have looked back in...now wanders out hearing that's the way, uh huh, uh huh, I like it, uh huh, uh huh playing over and over again in my head ;)~ L

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finally something worthy on the H20, and something that's actually Bryce! for the life of me, I couldn't figure out why fractals were on the BRYCE Hot 20 when there is a forum, gallery AND H20 specifically FOR fractals...a fractal mayde in Bryce is STILL a fractal :/