dazstudio and carrara s$cks about animation.

that's why i stop use them and now play with blender wich is good in animation.

Quote - I suspect it's a marketing strategy. A lot of the people who got it free will start buying content for it, and that's what Daz is counting on. If you ask me, it is a very smart decision on their part.  Expand the user base a little over the next month, get them hooked and sell them content...

yeah it's all marketing, I know.

real poser users will not change, weightmapped victoria 4 works fine in poser.

this offer is not fair to daz loyal people that all bought the software for $$$

between now and 6 months ago!

these people are now angry and disappointed.

how would you feel like, if you have $$$ money invested and hope for a nice working 3d tool.

Quote - Actually Daz have got a seperate thread in which they are encouraging disgruntled Studio purchasers to suggest solutons to this.  You really should get your fact straight before bad-mouthing people, durf.

yeah, and daz is deleting comments like hell in that thread!

only messages, like we love you daz, happy daz will not be deleted.

If your comment is to hard and true.

al negative comments from all angry people will be removed.

very professional!

Me very disappointed in daz.

from now on, i only download freebies and stop buying from daz.

Daz remove all negative comments in this thread from all it's loyal users!

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=182614&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=432ff0e3ee137596bdf1eca0877f866b

Fight back and all ask for refunds.

Quote - If you bought it within the last 30 days, you can get a refund.

If after 30 days, there is nothing you can do, nothing legal etc.

You bought it, it was fit for the purpose you wanted and have waited util this time to try to make a case.

Any lawyer would give you the same advice. Nothing you can do.

All the best.

LROG

may be in the US, in my country this is not legal!

or the company have to be bankrupt

Quote - While I understand that earlier buyers aren't nessesarily happy with DAZs latest decisions I would very much prefer this thread would not go too much into attacks.

Thank you.

Please be aware that there is a similar thread at DAZ where you are much more likely to be heared. That being said, feel free to continue here.

you are right, no reasons for attacks!

only looking for answers and join forces  "for our rights from daz"

Quote - Making room for Daz5???  Still do not understand why they didd't incorporate this Genesis figure into Daz3...

yeah they could saved a lot of $$$ not invest in some new ds4 interface.

and just stay at the fine working DS3 program.

Quote - I do agree that the Genesis figure is not making enough money for them and they had to do something to move forward

yeah, there must indeed be something seriously wrong.

why else would daz do this.

does the truth hurt?

dude, I lost much money to this program and now it's "free"!

Isn't this normal, that I'm angry

what about all the people that have paid $$$

3 month's ago for the dazstudio 4 PRO software?

**I paid 429$ and now it's free...
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what about that statement?

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**I make a legal case against this and find me a lawyer.
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Quote - The good news is that we are also working on it internally. So with input from the community experts and our internal team, we can get it done a lot faster.

what about good full tutorials (video vs pdf)

that explain all steps for a scene

• the idea

• the model proces character vs clothes, conformed vs dynamic

• sculpting (zbrush)

• the rig & weight paint

• the animation proces

• the lightning & rendering

that 's what you have to teach people. not how you pose and put clothes on character. (people aren't dumb)

Quote - I agree. I don't see anything wrong with providing preset scenes, in fact I think it's a great idea. New users see promotional renders for DS or Poser and then open the application and see a figure standing in empty space and wonder "how do i get from this to those really cool pictures?". preset scenes are a way that new users can see their own computer generate decent quality renders, and by looking around the preset scene they can see how things are set up, and try altering things like poses and camera angles. That way they gradually learn, rather than being thrown in at the deep end.

cool, but the use of preset scenes will quickly dull.

what if the new users would a) model it's own presets?

it's own clothes, rig his own character? animate his own character?

where is all the info and manual about that subject?

there is not 1 good tutorial in daz vs poser world, that explain all these steps from model to rig to morph to animate to render. not 1!

Quote - It's been my opinion that the best way to help newbies is not to do more for them, but to provide them with better documentation and tutroials.

that 's the best way for newbies info, information, complete manuals.

it looks like it's some closed PA club house at daz3d.

only a few get the info how to model and create content.

most of the info is hidden, don't teech your custormers to much.

or we don't have any sails anymore.

if these are the perspectives of daz vs poser world.

'm out of 3d here.

teach people real 3d, or don't!

CMS some kind of DRM system? a spoof to run in to your runtime and checking for warxz?

you can run studio fine, without CMS.

no problem

Quote - DAZ is working on doccumentation for DS4.  there is a forum post at the daz forums linking to it.  its a far cry from being done. but its in process.

yeah and the manual will be created by the daz community users :)

LOL

totally wrong