I think you should try an old trick of looking at your creation in a mirror. That can give you a different view than you're used to and you may see the subtle changes you need to make her as perfect a likness as possible. As an objective observer, I can see Marilyn emerging, but she's not quite there. Portraiture is a very subtle art. I did pastel chalk portraits from photos, when I was using normal media. It's not as simple as it seems. I'm going to try to extend my portraiture to Poser in the not so distant future. I think it would really be a challenge. Meanwhile, you've got a good start.

The actual name of the male Poser is Tagosaku. It's probably the only male there, but I wanted to give the right info, in case.:0)

There was a shorter hair for Koziburo's Taganaka character, a very nice male. Have you checked that one, the hair is separate, it also morphs. It might be just the thing. I think its at Digital Babes. Or isthat the one you're talking about?

Have you checked confusius' site for the morphhair? There might be something there.

I remember seeing, somewhere, a DL for wonderbra morphs. That might help with the cleavage problem. I'm not sure where. Someone here might know, or you might try Renderotica.

Seekers downloads still aren't working. Is it down again?

I don't know what kind of fish you want, but Schnaps 3- d has several versions of some neat fish textures for a kind of standard looking tropical fish. The textures make it look anything but standard. I'm not sure, the fish may be one of the standard figs in Poser. I really didn't check it out. The textures make the fish look anything but standard tho.

As a semi-newbie, I would welcome any tutorial that helps fill in ,IMHO, some glaring blanks in the Poser manual. I won't list them here, but I bet most of you know where they are.

The most confusing files to me are the .obj files. I'm talking about the Geometry specific ones, like morphs,etc. Exactly where are they supposed to go? I've downloaded programs with just morph targets, or body geometries without any readme. How do I find the right places to put them?

What a great idea! Pleeze let us know when it does get posted, if you get ambitious, a similar morph for the female would be terrific.

I think the neck needs some aging. It's not the neck of an older woman,it looks too firm and smooth. It should be a bit crinkly. I don't think we have enough older and more varied poser texts and characters, I'll add this when you're ready to offer it, I like the character.

Anton, you are amazing! Thanx a bunch.

I'm sorry to see you go. I did check your link. What I don't like about registering there is that it seems as though its a bid for getting demographic info from the registerees(is there such a word?)I refuse to be pigeonholed by age, gender or whatever. I don't like MY demographics given to some unknown quantity. Especially, when its not an integral part of what you're registering for. I'm sure your E-Forum doesn't need them. So who does and why? Are they asking me to add my personal e-mail password, too? If so, I wouldn't give that to anyone PERIOD, even one for my creative side, even without the visible characters. If I sound a bit irked, it's not you, but I have my own issue with commercial enterprises, and their lusting after the consumer victims, like birds of prey. It's not your fault, but I guess I'll have to decline under the circumstances, too bad, too.

All the beards were for P3 males. I have a P3 fig, but what about my poor P4 dork? I'll see if I can check the other thread. Thanx Momodot. By the way, I like the "Moist Eyes", Its surprising what a difference they made.

I know, technically you're asking about clothes,but, how about some really good hair and real beards for our poor, hapless male dork?