Thanks SMT but it didn't work. That file has over 3000 objects and it will run in vue4 but it either dosn't load properly or won't render or crashes VuePro.

Humm, checked mine and it is 265693. Its for windows and has lots of problems with openGL and large files. The Doge city scape will load but not render - just reports its done. With all thse different builds it's difficult to compare things. We will have to wait till they get a stable build and make it available to all. Untill then we are comparing apples and oranges and maybe pineapples too.

I have an intel 2.4 ghz MB and a Radeon 9100 card - same thing locks up - it didn't till I downloaded the latest drivers just had a few artifacts. Solved it for now by removing the card and using the built in video on the MB - it works just fine even with Open GL but the performance is not excelent as with a good video card - I am waiting to find out what the best card is before I purchase one.

Good repllies. I usually just use a plane and adjust the viewing angle of the plane to get the perspective I want. To really make use of the alpha chanel remember that you have to have a pic file with alpha information such as a .tif jpgs don't have it.

Nice Pic,,,in addition to the textures how about some numbers or logos on the sails? And sails usually have little strings hanging in the wind.

interesting,,,I downloaded the evaluation version of Xfrog and saved the sample plants as .obj and .3ds and in all cases they came across witout the texture maps in Pro (red) but with the texture maps in Vue4. More bugs I suspect.

Thanks everyone, I was totaly unaware of xfrog and I will look into it. Also I am aware that e-on has made a lot of free fixes to Vue4 and I expect that will be the case with Pro. But maybe they need to look at how they market the product. Since I use Vue as an end product I don't have much need for model exporting.

My Radeon 9100 worked ok but had some artifacts with the icons used to rotate an object. So I followed their instructions and downloaded the latest graphics drivers from ATI. Now I get a notice that it is unsuported and it locks up win 2000 pro so only a power down and a re boot can free up the PC. That was with OpenGL now I have to use it without OPen GL so I am worse off unless I go back to the original drivers.,,,,,,,this is sad.

Thanks everyone I am going to phone it in. I am using Mozilla in win 2000 and both are pretty buggy but it does work with most sites such as RDNA.

I did register VUE4 and have been to the secure area for several upgrades. The crazy thing is that the browser dosen't send a thing after you put in the numbers--you just hang there no traffic at all. they haven't answered my email either.

Same thing happened to me. I sent them email and will post it here if they reply. Aloha Glenn

I had a similar problem of getting both rooms at once but waiting a minute then switching to another room and then back solved it. It does require serrious resources and if you don't have them, patience is necessary. I do have one additional question for all of you. Have you saved a pz3 file whith the new hair and then loaded it in Vue. I did but no new hair!! I also tired several other formats and no hair or you get the hair but not the body texture. It does show in the group proir to exporting it. I am not about to give up there is so much potential here if I can just learn it all or most.

Thanks every one I still can't get it but I have sent allen an email and one to my service provider too....now that I know it really there.

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