hehe why did i know Phil would go for the top one lol :)

Phil I think you have a masakistic streak :> cant wait to see what you come up with for the feathers :)

Gota Love it :)

what version of Vickie ? ill make the mesh for you but you need to texture it grin. laters Vel

this was modeled in TrueSpace version 5.1 Lapis lol I didnt think of that when I named it Gerald :) Laters Vel

great im pleased you find it helpfull :) injoy Vel

lol I barly remember thows days wink

thats great April :)

Hi you have to be in the Fraim # for the desired fit. then select and export as morph target. this will keep the present shape of the mesh other wise it exports the oridgenal mesh shape minus the coth room changes. hope this helps Laters Vel

Hi Amorphieum has a problem with large ojb files. If you are trying to import a full poser model then the file size will be to big for it. also i have had the normals faceing the wromg way leaveg the model invisable no mater what you do in amp. so try exporting then import with flip normals then re export and see it that fixes your problem. hope this helps laters Vel

colisions are normals based. so the body normanls point out ward hair sees and clides with these. your helmit normals poing outward but the inside they face the wrong way for hair to see them. the way around this is as follows. export your helmit as ojb. then dleat it from your sceen. import the ojb click flip normals and do you sym with it. it will be flaky to see it as only the inside of the helmit will be visable for the sym. after your sim is comepleated deleat the ojb helmit from the sceen and aply the normal lib helmit scale and place. havent tryed this yet my self but in therie it should work. Let us all know if it dose. hope this helps Laters Vel

ps cheep = im thinking 1.00 US per mesh sound fare to all here this will solve the hosting problems and help Rosaty a bit as well with out gouging the comunaty. Laters Vel

Welcome Back Carolly :) hope the hollerdays are going well for you :) Ill send you the meshes and cr2 files for these if you want them. as i did say i would put them in free stuff :) or just for you to use as was you oridganal post that inspired them. and for thows that have shown inters I will put up a clothing pac in the market place. I have ruffly 100 or more meshes created for other projects over the yrs im fiting to work in P5 with its cloth sym, it dose difer in its results from Maya's sym so do have to mod the meshes for proper draping in P5. Ok so pacs how many per ? 5 or 10 meshes ? and should i keep then of same type or mix them for you? ohh and ill release them very cheep in price. let me know Vel

ok accepted as true. I apolagise for flying off the handel. wrong time of the month for me should know beter. Laters vel

nether reagens ya right. and no for 350.00 i would not exspect a clone of my Maya Unlimited 4.02! get real. I send bug info to where it dose some good and that is CL. I bought the proie and use it have had few problems with it. it works and works well for its price. yes there are areas i would like to see changed, when these changes happen great. but slamming the company serves only one purpose and that is to try to put them out of business. Is that what you want to see? they are fixing things and rapidly. So give them a break Geez what has been done can not be undone! sigh so now i have been pulled into the flame slam the smaler to be slamed mantality. Its not worth my time or energy to do this. i gues i return to egnoring 90% of the posts here again, as the bees are once more buzzing. Later maybe get productive and maybe the ones that are good with the porgam will bother to frequent the board more often and offer more advice tips and trics in sted of going to other boards to get away from the flame wars! Vel