Strange, i never had a problem with vue 7 & poser 7 lol. But the workaround of saving the scene inventory stuff worked, so its all good now :). Thank you all!!!!

OOOOo... i forgot about that LOL.  Thank you =D

I'll try that, too...

I may end up going back to Vue 7i for this project, i know it won't see poser 9 (probably), but at least it didnt drain memory half as bad.  BLAH.

havent tried the collada format yet...

i did import a "simple" figure from Poser 9 that I had saved as an OBJ - textures came in nicely... i think, was a few days ago... and my memory is kinda fuzzy - i may have had to search for one of the textures, but i really cannot remember.  I was just hoping to be able to import entire scenes without having to go through the "export as obj, import obj" thing - and the possible lack of textures importing properly LOL.

will try collada when i return home... see how that handles.

Ok, i used the May 2010 one... it didn't work.

i backed up and used the prior one (march 2010) - and got more info on it not working (including it telling me to contact smith micro... sighs)... but still nothing.

i keep my geometries and textures in the main poser runtime folder...

this is frustrating LOL

ERK..... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!  WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, 9.5 wasn't an upgrade... umm, i don't think LOL.  Coulda been, though, but I doubt it...I think when I bought 9.5 (its on disc, btw... I didn't want JUST an electronic copy like my 7inf is!), they no longer offered an upgrade/sidegrade from 7?  Agggh, its been a year... and my memory sucks.

My 7 infinite IS an upgrade from 6 pro studio, which was an upgrade from Esprit LOL. (strange that I can remember THAT, but not if 9.5 is an upgrade/sidegrade or not...)

I believe folks CAN sell old versions, but it's not recommended if you have a "newer" version that was an upgrade from an older one (like my 7inf).  Don't quote me on that... LOL.  Reselling software is an iffy propsition anyway.

Other folks might be able to tell ya better...

As for logs... I wouldn't know LOL (where to find them, or anything LOL).  Usually I tell windows to stop looking for a solution (cus it never finds one anyway), and restart Vue.  Vue crashing is just a way of life... but it DOES seem a lot more unstable on Windows 7... on my XP 64 pro, Vue rocked.  Only crashed like once every week - and simple solution then was to just reboot my system (something i hate to do).  If I rebooted now every time Vue crashes, I'd end up rebooting over a dozen times in a vue work session (anywhere up to 8 hours LOL)

For my own crashes... its random.  Editting a terrain and doing 3D sculpting of it seems to be a big one.  So I rarely attempt that!  Sometimes, it's simply editting a material.  Other times, it's hitting the render button.  Other times it seems to be clicking ANYWHERE if Vue isn't "ready" for me to click.

Unfortunately, I don't... am hoping to hear if others have things figured out, too... I'm running vue9.5inf on windows 7 and was thinking about loading up Vue 7 infinite to see if it's any better... I am SOOO tired of Vue crashing!!!

WOOHOOOOO!!!  Congrats, Silver!!!!

I had no idea that if you didn't use a system for a long time, it could go "kaput"....

good thing to learn =D

Sounds like a great rig coming your way... then comes the fun of reinstalling things ;)

I have the GTX 590 (not the 680)... and i love it.  It does have a few "issues" - none I can pinpoint right off-hand... other than it took a few tries before I found the "right" driver version that made Vue happy.

Could be some other things that occur on this system that MIGHT be video card related, but might NOT be... like my flash drivers "freezing" now and then (causing me to have to completely reboot...), and a few other lil odds and ends - but nothing that I really freak out about anymore LOL.

Yes, you DO need a good sized power supply for these cards... 550 is MINIMUM - consider going higher... SERIOUSLY consider going higher power.  The card will suck that power supply like no tomorrow and beg for more - specially - and mostly - when Vue is rendering.  Take into cosideration what all will be drawing power from that supply... and plan accordingly. =D

Let us know if you go with the 680 and how it works for you! =D

If Aisuru has a paypal account, it is really simple to set up a paypal donation button.

Several suggestions with this: 1) set up a web page for this. 2) have a little "something" that people can get for their donation - a simple .vob, or a unique vue plant, materials, atmosphere, etc.  This "something" for the simple act of being generous can generate more donations (you'll get a handful of folks that won't download the stuff).  The paypal donation button setup can be linked with the items (on another secure webpage/site) so the person donating gets the link as soon as they donate.  Minimum donation paypal allows is $1.  You DO have to have the items in their location so your link is ready to go when you set up the donation button...

That said, I CAN say that Renderosity doesn't like people advertising for donations.  Its a very sticky thing with them - something I ran into when I was trying desperately to get funds to pay for the lawyer to get custody of my daughter back.  They DO allow linking in the gallery - but ONLY one link per image, per day - and don't go into a whole lotta detail, because then they consider it advertising for a vendor (unless you happen to BE a vendor here, then you're given free reign... LOL)...  Something like "donate to my Vue Collection Fund and get some great stuff, too!  >>Link<< "

Daz allows advertising for donations on their forums only - as long as you don't get "obnoxios" with it.

Other sites may or may not allow it, you would have to check with them.

Aisuru - you can always just lug the entire ... omg, i havent had enough coffee yet... the entire... CPU unit to the computer store, get their opinion on type, etc... tell them you have to wait a little bit, and go home and order it online ;)

But i really DO recommend diagraming EVERYTHING.  I am nowhere near "tech-savvy" - I can pop in memory sticks, and anything that "just goes in a slot" - but when it comes to multiple wires coming out of a part like octopus tentacles... i get my trusty pencil & paper out!  I also write down things on scraps of paper (ok, bits I cut up just for this), and then tape them around wires on the part I'm replacing.  I had a power supply DIE one year, it had all the symptoms yours does - but it was doing the "power down" in Poser (I didn't have Vue - hadn't yet seen "the light" LOL).  After about 2 weeks of random shut downs, it died completely - on a government holiday (which shouldn't have mattered, but I was going through an agency for vocational training and they ended up purchasing my new power supply LOL).  When I picked up the part (two days later... stupid requesition forms... boy I was going through render withdrawals!) I ended up with something that looked like a metal box with a hole that had what appeared to be a fan in it, and a buncha wires coming out everywhere.

Looking inside my computer, I found a similar device... and went "oh crap."

Diagramed everything... and about 15 minutes after I finished the diagram (because I kept getting interrupted... not hard to do when at the time I was living in a house with 13 to 15 other people).... I had my new power supply installed.... crossed fingers, booted up.. and my computer was HAPPPPPPPPPPPY!.

It may not be that your power supply just isn't powerful enough anymore... it could just be in the first phases of completely biting the dust... Vue just happens to draw enough power that it showed it first.  Of course, it may NOT be dieing... it just may have so much attached to it it cannot give that video card the power it craves... ;)

You are, indeed, pushing your system to the max - even without that nice video card.  And don't be confused about DS rendering fine and the only one having the issue is Vue... As I said earlier - Vue will eat your resources up and beg for more.  DS, Poser, Bryce, etc - they don't seem to do this.

Can't wait to see the images when you can finally post them =D

Suggestions for when you go to get a new power supply - like Shawn said, take it with you!  But before you unhook all those cables - if you aren't terribly hardware savvy... make a diagram of where all those cables go!  Also, if you take pics BEFORE you unplug everything to take with you to the store (the pics that is), you can show the computer tech exactly what you're talking about as far as space, etc.  Measurements would definately help, but please make sure you use a non-static-y, non-magnetic measuring device (wood?? LOL) - just to be on the safe side!

If you're feeling air flow, as Shawn said, you probably don't need another fan yet.  Hold off on that until you find out internal temps while running a render.  At least you know you have a spot for one ;)  A "stronger" power supply, along with the video card you mentioned could cause your normal operating temps to go up some.  You may even start to feel warmer air blowing across your feet ;)

And, as Jon said, do a comparison of the features of Vue before you purchase.  are there things that are only in Infinite that you just cannot live without?  Or would Complete serve you better for now?  If Complete covers everything you need, you may only have to beg & borrow instead of steal to get Vue ;)

Looking forward to hearing the progress on your computer...

"Are we onto something here? :hopeful look in my eyes:"

I, personally, believe you are... Shawn may agree or have other ideas.  He's a guru, i'm just a lackey ;)

I know that when I bought this computer, I went with the "latest and greatest" NVidia card... the GeForce GTX 590.  THIS nessessitated me getting a much more powerful power supply than typically comes in this style computer - simply because it pulls soooo much power.  Even with the extra power, the fact that I have liquid cooled system with a few fans tossed in for good measure, when Vue renders - it sounds like a Cessna.  (Much better than my old system which sounded like a bunch of jet planes taking off!).

More power... a few more fans (most systems, you can add one or two more fans to the mess easily)... i think you'll be fine putting that card back in place!  Again, i'm no Guru... just speaking from my own experiences. =D

It may be rare for a video driver to cause a complete shutdown of the computer, but it does happen - speaking from experience.  This computer was purchased this past june, arrived in July, and within a few weeks I was putting it through its paces with Vue.  Inevitably, the sculpting of terrains caused Vue to crash so hard my computer crashed as well (which caused all sorts of issues, including having to reboot numerous times to get my mouse working again).  After talking with the Wonderfully Wise Gurus here on the boards, it was suggested I update my video driver (something I had forgotten to do... blushes). It seems a bad driver CAN cause problems that seem totally unrelated...

It worked.  Even though I am now likely two or three "updates" behind, I refuse to update my driver... If it ain't broke, I am NOT fixing it!  Vue is running smoothly (knock on wood), and ever since I updated the driver - no sudden "crash of death" issues.  Not to say Vue doesn't crash now and then - that's typical of the program ;) - but I no longer end up with the entire computer shutting down at the same time!

Aisuru - if you updated (or your computer automatically did it) the driver, and Vue doesn't LIKE that driver, it CAN (although as Shawn stated, it's rare) cause your computer to shut itself down. 

IF you decide to try to roll back the driver to a previous version and it corrects the issue, please do everyone a favor?  Post that it got corrected in here - and then send the E-on techs a message letting them know that the NVidia ForceWare 285.58 / XP driver has potential "issues" with Vue and can force a hard shut-down of the computer.  This way they can add (or not, as they see fit) it to this list:

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_10_infinite/?page=15

I am crossing my fingers for you - that it's a simple issue like a driver and not a card going bad and/or overheatting...

Just a thought - have you recently updated that driver?  It could be the driver itself, and you may need to roll back to previous version...