You are correct it doesn't have SDS turn on in that render image. It turns out that the SDS sliders in the properties tray are not activated. But there is another way to apply the SDS just open the model in the Vertex modeler and in the VM use the SDS slider and you can see the geometry change.

Quote - Wierd, my last post didn't show up.

I had said that I was surprised that Ringo's image looked blocky as P7. I had thought Carrara would have SubD or smoothed it better. The image itself looks fine,just the blocky dragon. Will have to try it on my C6P when I have the time.

No, there is not a poser version of this dragon, daz is saying it works with poser 5+ but does point out it is a little to low poly for poser. But as all ofus have pointed out, it would be fine for distant shots and multi figure at a distant renders.

Which leaves Antons mesh changing. Would be fine IF there were other med/ high rez geometry,  but there is not unless you make them yourself.

But isn't the dragon release in two formats so as to make almost everyone happy. A sub-d version and a standard version for Poser and other applications or am I wrong?

This one was render in Carrara 6.1 Pro using translucency map on the wings and SSS with global illumination and indirect lighting.

The developers are still the same ones as before.
You mean ownership that is the one thing that keeps changing.

But yes C6 is coming soon.
it was mention at DAZ forums that it has Dynamic hair, fur, displacement modeling, NLA, DAZ Studio Content support etc.

Quote - I was a little concerned. Carrara seems to be one of those footballs that gets passed around from developer to developer. I'd like to see it stay with one for a while - I hope Daz puts together a great version 6 (and 7, and 8...). I've got 5 Pro right now, so I won't be taking advantage of the offer, but it's nice to know version 6 is imminent.

Well the SDK is needed to support Poser Dynamic clothing and Poser Dynamic hair in Transposer 2 other than that Poser Native Import works fine.

Ringo

Quote - > Quote - I would like to know were you heard about it.

The Carrara SDK is free. The Poser SDK isn't free last year  I was told by Bob Stockwell that  it was around 15K but I am not sure about the actual price.
Switch from Poser to DAZ Studio I am not suggesting that at all.
 Carrara can load and handle poser type content in what is know as Poser Native format and that is the  format that will be expanded or improved in Carrara 6. It means it won't be handle like in Bryce .:-)

 
15K!!!  Man EF is really sufffering from a case overestimated self importance.  I wish these software companies would knock it off, grow up and start behaving like adults.  They need to work together and not fight like kindergarteners in a school playground.  Hopefully DAZ will figure out some way to get poser support back in.  Maybe a conversion program which will turn them into a .car file.  That would be cool...

I was asking about your statement that e-frontier was askng for Carrara sdk.

Quote - Kaga quoted from DAZ Forum
“DAZ can not support Poser 7 because e-f does not provide Poser7 SDK “
Note: this is partial incomplete translation.

Then, NAK55 wrote e-frontier asking about the matter,

E-frontier replied as follows (partial incomplete translation)  :

“It is not clear how DAZ released such information.

We are not refusing the use of Poser7 SDK.

At this moment, we have no request from DAZ.”

This is the original written in Japanese.
“お問い合わせの件でございますが、
TransPoserを提供されておりますDAZ3D社につきましては、
私の方でも詳細を存じ上げておりませんため、
記載されておりますような情報がどのような形で掲載されたのか
不明な状態でございます。

しかしながら、確認させていただきましたところ、
弊社がPoser 7のSDKの提供を拒んでいるような状況ではなく、
現段階では特に依頼をいただいていない状態のようでございます。
そのため、今後のTransPoserの提供については未定でございますが、
TransPoserにつきましては、詳細を開発元であるDAZ3D社にご確認いただけますと幸いです。“

Hello!  Carrara        A Japanese Carrara Forum
http://carrara.eek.jp/com/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=453&forum=14

TransPoser 2とPoser 7ハンドルネーム：ＮＡＫ５５
2007-2-22 18:34

以前kagaさん　がCARRARAのフォーラムで、
TransPoser 2とPoser 7　の内容を書いていました件

＞DAZ のフォーラムで TransPoser 2は Poser 7に対応するのか？
＞というスレッドでDAZからの回答があります。
＞イーフロが Poser 7のSDKを提供しないので Poser 7で使える
＞TransPoser は残念ながら出ない。
＞でも、今なら CARRARA はお安く手に入るし、バージョン6はネイティブインポートをもっと改良しているよ。
＞私達は Poser のダイナミッククロスやヘアの代替え手段を今年中に出＞せるようにがんばってます。

で気になりイーフロに確認しました。

お問い合わせの件でございますが、
TransPoserを提供されておりますDAZ3D社につきましては、
私の方でも詳細を存じ上げておりませんため、
記載されておりますような情報がどのような形で掲載されたのか
不明な状態でございます。

しかしながら、確認させていただきましたところ、
弊社がPoser 7のSDKの提供を拒んでいるような状況ではなく、
現段階では特に依頼をいただいていない状態のようでございます。
そのため、今後のTransPoserの提供については未定でございますが、
TransPoserにつきましては、詳細を開発元であるDAZ3D社にご確認いただけますと幸いです。

I would like to know were you heard about it.
The Carrara SDK is free. The Poser SDK isn't free last year  I was told by Bob Stockwell that  it was around 15K but I am not sure about the actual price.
Switch from Poser to DAZ Studio I am not suggesting that at all.
 Carrara can load and handle poser type content in what is know as Poser Native format and that is the  format that will be expanded or improved in Carrara 6. It means it won't be handle like in Bryce .:-)

Ringo

Quote - Ringo,

Are you suggesting us to switch from Poser to DAZ Studio?

I also heard it was daz that wouldn't let e-f have the carrara sdk.

Are you sure what you mentioned ?

Quote -
“There won't be any Poser 7 support as it requires a new poser SDK and that is something that hasn't been resolve between the companies.
What DAZ has said is that C6 will have better content support as one of its features.
Ringo”

Quote -
“I heard it was daz that wouldn't let e-f have the carrara sdk.
Miss Nancy“

Hi Holly.

DAZ has mention that there is going to be a dynamic clothing plugin for Carrara 6.
Check out the DAZ forums there is more information about there.

 Ringo

Quote - > Quote - The direct import of V4.1 into Carrara is a Daz problem that will be fixed with a Carrara6 that will not have a Poser7 SDK.

May I ask where you are getting your information about Carrara6? I'm not trying to flame, but I did spend a good hour yesterday pricing C4D+modules (ouch!).

To answer your Q, I don't have Poser7, but occaisionally open P5 and stare at it... I just need a cloth simulator for Carrara (not clothes, just dynamic cloth with wind and collision, etc). Unless a plugin comes along (and Carrara's plugin developers have been pretty quiet in 2007), P5 might be a workable fabric plugin... so any topic concerning P --> C pitfalls is interesting to me.

holly

Hi.

Just a quick correction here. DAZ has said "Later in the year" that doesn't mean end of year nor does it mean next year. :-)
There won't be any Poser 7 support as it requires a new poser SDK and that is something that hasn't been resolve between the companies.
What DAZ has said is that C6 will have better content support as one of its features.
More information later.

Regards

 Ringo
DAZ forums Carrara & Hex guru.

Quote - I'll try that. Thanks!!
Gordon
PS. I'll buy the C6 upgrade the instant it becomes available. I've been champing at the bit for it, and now I hear that DAZ is saying it won't be out 'til the end of the year or early next year. OUCH!
They should release a patch for Poser 7 support, at least. Oh, well. 

In C5 the developers started using a zip compression format.  You may have notice that when saving a file you have a choice to save it compress or uncompress.  Yes you can open the CAR file in wordpad. I would suggest going to the Carrara SDK  group over at yahoo groups and ask over there.

Ringo

Quote - I was messing around with a Carrara file and to my suprise discovered that it was a kind of zip file. I used winrar to extract the file and opened the uncompressed results in Wordpad. the results were semi-readable kind of like opening an OBJ file with Wordpad. Is there any place with more information on the Carrara extention that you guys know of? I have sometimes had problems with a Carrara file and wish to learn more for trouble-shooting purposes. thanks

Hi, Eric.

Yes the original Carrara chatroom at EFNET is active every night at around 6PM pacific time.
EFNET Chanel #Carrara

Come visit us.

 Ringo

Quote - Is the EFNet Carrara chat still active? It's been a long time since had the chance to drop by there.

The most important part of Steve Kondris post is what I am quoting here.

Quote - AND version 6.0 of Carrara will have much improved native import of Poser content,

That says much about the use of not only DAZ content but also about using any poser content .

Quote - Seeing as how the animation layer feature is the only thing that interests me about P7, I guess I'll stick with P6 for now.
Looking ahead to the future I have to say that I've always preferred DAZ over EF in terms of products, support and customer service. So my next question is, has anybody heard anything about improved compatibility between DAZ Studio and C5...or even C6?

Hi,

They are treating Carrara with lots of respect and they love the Carrara developers.

Ringo

Quote - Well I just hope Daz treats Carrara with respect and we get an update in the first half of next year. Carrara is only a few steps from being a reasonably mature 3D application – let’s hope it gets to grow up and express its full potential.

 

Thanks all

Simple cause Carrara has a killer render and shader engine. I use it all the time with  poser figures. :-)

Quote - Why render in Carrara? Why not Poser7? I use Carrara often, just wonder why - something to do with the lighting?