Excellent tutorial, short sweet and to the point. I just did a quick test with v4 after watching and it worked a treat. One notable difference though instead of using Objaction scaler I used Poser Scaler. Poser Scaler can be found at Zbrush Central in the ZBrush ZScript Utilities Forum. The thread is called Poser Scaler plugin for ZBrush 3.1 . Once installed it lives in your Zplugin menu and makes short work of impor/export for Poser figures. Thanks again for the tutorial it really made my day.

Trevor.

Mizrael, again thank you, that was it, I knew it had to be something simple I was missing and that was it. I now have my items as smart props and I'm extremely happy.

Mizrael, thank you very much I'll try that right now to see if that is what the problem has been.

Please help me, every thing works great in terms of creating the props, I've used both methods and there's no problem. BUT I can't get smart propping to work. I know it should be simple. I've followed the manual explanation, I've followed the smart prop tutorial in the 'rosity Poser  tutorial section but I never get the dialogue asking me if I want to make this object a smart prop.

I import my object, I place it to fit my figure, I parent the object to my figure, then add to library, I name it, I select the subset ( just the object I want to smart prop) click OK and it adds to the library but not as a smart prop and I don't get the smart prop dialogue. What am I missing? If someone could post a couple of step by step screenshots I would be most appreciative.

Reyes as in Reyes Infografica the makers of  VF. Here's an excerpt from their website :

ClothReyes was the world's first and only cloth simulator of its kind when it appeared on the market in 1997. Since then we have improved and developed it further, gradually making it the reference standard in the industry. It includes such revolutionary features as tearable cloth and dynamic rigid bodies, taking its potential beyond fabric simulation. Its unique technology based on the detection of self-collision within "cloth" has established ClothReyes as the most advanced solution for fabric simulation. It works by applying a series of properties to a standard mesh and then by modifying these parameters you can achieve different types of behavior that can simulate fabrics of varying degrees of softness or different materials (wool, leather, plastic etc).

A lot of what you're doing in the cloth room now doesn't actually apply to most dynamic clothing. If you download some of SVDL's stuff from the freebie section here at 'rosity or the stuff at poserfashion.net you'll see that you don't need to constrain everything in sight to run a sim. These items often have no constrained areas at all and they drape beautifully. This is what I'd like to see the VF/Poser combo doing. I was asking generally hoping perhaps Laslov or Brian might know.

I'll post the image here and copy/paste my comments from there.

I constrained the waistband on the pants that's pretty much par for the course but the top didn't need to be constrained at all for the sim to run. Without a constrained area and this pose it slips down over the arms so I constrained the bottom of the sleeves to hold it there.

So two in a row that didn't ned to be constrained, I was on a high and then I spent all day yesterday cutting a more complex short nightie and of course the sim wouldn't run without constraining the majority of the garment. Why????? I went back to VF and loosened it and recut it more simply. Still no joy. It seems anything I make with shoulderstraps I have this problem and there's no point in having shoulder straps that need to be constrained as they float above the shoulder and look ridiculous. I know this is mentioned in the manual but it's still extremely frustrating.

Does anyone know if Reyes had anything to do with building the Poser cloth engine? Perhaps they could rebuild it for Poser7 so that what I see in VF is what I get in Poser. Then again I have plenty of Dynamic Cloth that drapes perfectly in the current version so is the problem some thing else? Mesh export perhaps.

Lululee, what does BM mean?

Mizrael, try again I checked the thread after reading this and all three pages opened as usual. I then posted my latest comments and outfit render with no problems, I closed it reopened it, still OK. Perhaps it was a temporary problem you experienced, I hope so because I prefer to have everything in the same thread.

Trevor.

I constrained the waistband on the pants that's pretty much par for the course but the top didn't need to be constrained at all for the sim to run. Without a constrained area and this pose it slips down over the arms so I constrained the bottom of the sleeves to hold it there.

So two in a row that didn't ned to be constrained, I was on a high and then I spent all day yesterday cutting a more complex short nightie and of course the sim wouldn't run without constraining the majority of the garment. Why????? I went back to VF and loosened it and recut it more simply. Still no joy. It seems anything I make with shoulderstraps I have this problem and there's no point in having shoulder straps that need to be constrained as they float above the shoulder and look ridiculous. I know this is mentioned in the manual but it's still extremely frustrating.

Does anyone know if Reyes had anything to do with building the Poser cloth engine? Perhaps they could rebuild it for Poser7 so that what I see in VF is what I get in Poser. Then again I have plenty of Dynamic Cloth that drapes perfectly in the current version so is the problem some thing else? Mesh export perhaps.

Lululee, what does BM mean?

So here's my second complete outfit, blouse,skirt and shoes. I was already to shout excitedly that the blouse wasn't constrained at all but then I remembered that I had a little nipple poke through, to rectify this I constrained the areas covering the nipples. I'm not going to blame this on VF though because  I've had the same problem with other dynamic clothing. The skirt has the waistband constrained which I don't find to be a problem and the shoes are fully constrained. I spoke a bit soon about boots in my last post as it took me a bit longer to get the feet posing correctly this time. All in all I'm a lot happier than I was this time last week. This doesn't mean that EF/Infografica are off the hook though as I still think work needs to be done on mesh export and other things.

Trevor.

http://camelot.renderosity.com/tut.ez?Form.ViewPages=868

http://camelot.renderosity.com/tut.ez?Printable=632

Try these for a bit of an overview of Dynamic Cloth.

Trevor.

Mizrael, in the boots I made which are in the render I posted in this thread, I parented them to the hip and constrained the extra Mesh*P groups and they worked as well as any conforming boots I've got. I also created a foot pose from the VFzero pose so the feet would pose properly in my final pose. I hope this helps.

Firstly thanks again to Brian for his helpful tips and swirling dervish animations also for getting that song stuck in my head last night. (not)

'thisstuffinside', as far as I know you can't import poses for the fitting room, the posing option only works for the default program models Bruce and Andrea. The program was originally built for fashion designers as far as I can tell with the four Poser models and mesh export added for the Poser Edition.

The main area of contention for me is still the mesh export which I'm hopeful will be worked on and upddated so we don't need to constrain so many areas of a garment to get decent sim times in Poser. In my example render above only the skirt area really behaves dynamically.

The plus side for me though is that I never could have modelled this dress in a modelling app. I'm also hopeful that more features ( new moulds etc ) will be added in time.

Trevor.

Thanks Brian for the pointers, I don't mind longer sim times as long as the sim runs. Just for clarification though are you changing the Cloth Dynamics settings in the default group? I ask this because I notice that Poser seems to import different Dynamic setting groups depending on the fabrics you've selected in VF. Here is a render of the first outfit that I'm 85-90% happy with thanks to your tip on constraining the different mesh groups. One thing I must do is to go back and re-read all the different Dynamic Cloth tutorials that I read when I first started using Dynamic Cloth. I'm also going to have to go around all the various forums and withdraw my initial complaints as I now see a bright future for the VF/Poser combo.

Trevor Black : Enthusiastic VF supporter. 

Guru Brian,

Can you offer any advice on draping so as to achieve the same effect as in Poser that you get in VF. As in the supplied screenshot. I thought I may have been able to export the item pre-draped but that doesn't work.

Brian (Default Guy),

You are an absolute genius, I've just been going through all my garments that wouldn't work ie: the sim would fail. Following your guide about adding the mesh*(P) groups to the constrained group they now work like a charm. WOW, if only this info had been available from an official source from the beginning (it's not in the PDF) it could have saved a lot of complaining especially from me. I guess this is why we have the forums. EF or Infografica please add this gem of information to the PDF for future buyers. I now officially withdraw all my complaints about VF/Poser and heartily reccomend the program to all Poser users interested in creating dynamic clothing. I had tried something like this earlier but had selected 'Edit Dynamic Group' which caused Poser to shut down. Are you going to post this info at the CP VF forum. Thank you so much, now I can spend some time creating clothing instead of complaing about VF/Poser.

Trevor Black.