there has still been not reference to anyone's intelligence or ability to make further decisions In my business, we call that time stepping. I don't really care if you like Legume or not. That's not the point. What you wrote is "sometimes the smartest people make stupid decisions". Your words, ma'am. And now you reiterate it by saying that in your opinion making Leggie AOY would be stupid. If that's not making a judgment call on people's ability to make a decision, I don't know what is. And it's not reading a thing into your posts. It's your own words. So if you mean something else, you'd better get started thinking of a new approach, because this one just ain't running anywhere.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=1016109

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Twist it whatever way you want. The bottom line is that I never said anyone was stupid or said that the vote should be taken away from them because of their past decisions, that's the bottom line no matter how badly you wish it wasn't.

Perhaps you people can get over yourselves long enough to REALIZE what has just happened here? I may be fairly new to this community but I believe one of the "big" people here just told us all that there was indeed an error and even apologized for it, thus taking on full responsibility for it as well. This is not an easy undertaking for anyone, especially upon a site that seems to throw flames and ask questions later; yes, in what short time I have been here I have noticed this habitual far too often. I for one enjoy the ambiance of this ite and would hate to see it destroyed because of lack of understanding and compassion for the basic principals of imperfection. Please have some respect and courtesy. Jack in another thread above has the right idea with his note of "thanks" to this Tammy and I will do the same..."thanks Tammy." Surely there must be countless reasons to really enjoy the many benefits of this site, far more than continue to badger about things such as this that has in fact been acknowledged and apologized for. No one can be expected to be perfect, especially folks that run online forums full of diverse artists and even moreso, so many diverse peronalities. Get over it.

I agree Billy, in fact I did respond on this same subject in another thread, I am glad to know now that it was just a mistake. However, if someone chooses to attack me I will defend myself and that's the only reason this thread continues. I know what happened now but as long as another chooses to put words in my mouth I will make sure the truth about my own intentions are known. Oh, and thanks Tammy..:) Thanks, Melissa

Twist it whatever way you want Hard to twist what's there in white on black, ma'am. And Tammy? Apology noted, but again, you should leave the poll open at this point.

If you are refering to what I said and only what I said then it isn't there "in black and white" as you say. BOTTOM LINE: _________________________________________________________ I don't think any vote should ever be taken away from anyone based on previous decisions or for any other reason. While in my opinion I think that some people made a STUPID DECISION about the AOM vote for Legume that does not mean that I think they, personally, are stupid. I'm sure there are quite a few intelligent people who voted for him I just do not agree with it and never will(if you really want to know why I don't like his work, then IM me, because I am done discussing this here for I have better things to do with my time). And above all, The admins have now admitted that the vote was never intended to go to the community and that they put up the poll by mistake which nullifies the need for this entire argument alltogether. _________________________________________________________ Now that I have made my position very clear NUMEROUS TIMES I will refrain from responding to any further attempts by anyone else to pretend that I meant something other than what I said. I see no need to defend myself any further since in all truth, I know in my mind what I stand for and that's all that matters to me. Those who are capable of being fair will understand what I have said and those who have issues will continue to look for that which isn't there.

I think you two really do like one another. It kind of shows, even through all the negativity.

"And above all, The admins have now admitted that the vote was never intended to go to the community and that they put up the poll by mistake which nullifies the need for this entire argument alltogether." Except for the disscussion of why the vote was taken away from the membership in the first place, why a mistake was made posting a poll and it took 3 days to figure out that it was on the FRONT PAGE! And what the hell to do about it now? just about any solution is going to look bad.

I wonder why it is that Renderosity wants to play at being a big business, but when something like this happens, they just apologize and think that's all they need to do. If they want to run a business, they should expect to be treated like a business. When a business runs a contest, there are LAWS that must be adhered to. I'd be willing to bet that Renderosity isn't even vaguely familiar with those laws, and should, for thier own future protection, talk to a lawyer who knows something about those laws.

"I wonder why it is that Renderosity wants to play at being a big business, but when something like this happens, they just apologize and think that's all they need to do." Forgive me Sir Legume, for I understand you are the great artist behind all those incredible pieces of humor and contraversy in the gallery here. I do bow to your talents and wit, I enjoy your work immensly. As for the above statement, I have to suggest that if I were to name here just how many "businesses" I have known to DO exactly this, I am afraid my post just would not be long enough nor even shallow enough. With all due respect to heightened feelings around here, and especially to you, Sir Legume, who was so "unfortunatly" in the heat of all this, I do hope people will learn to forgive and comprehend that a mistake was made and a difficult apology of responsibility was followed; not at all something that many cold, hard "businesses" would actually DO. Happy Holidays

Attached Link: Proposed Changes to AOY voting

Perhaps discussing how the voting can be changed to make it more equitable and palatable in the future would prove somewhat beneficial? There seems to be many sides still discussing the issue, yet very few participating in offering up a potential solution. If we, as members, cannot decide how this year's AOY will be chosen, we can at least make a constructive change to the system to ensure this does not happen again. R'osity's ability to work with the members on a solution, after requesting input, will clearly show their true intentions.

There seems to be many sides still discussing the issue, yet very few participating in offering up a potential solution Here's one: don't have contests. Period. End of story.

atthisstage, You could have followed the link and seen that was already proposed. :0)

I know it was. It seems to bear repeating.