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Having looked through the still-growing thread in the link, I have to ask as well: why not make this an option instead of a blanket command?

I noticed the change this morning, when I tried to Rt-Clk on "My Shopping Cart" from a gallery page - I thought my browser had become corrupted, and rebooted twice trying to "fix" it. I'm glad I found that thread before I tried re-installing it or doing a system restore ;-) I've posted comments in the Forum News/Team Contact thread.

What a great idea! Marque

No, Marque, it's a dumb idea. For many reasons. Navigation interference being the main one. And Joey, if it's an option it will just invite theft on those images where you CAN right-click.

Looking at the original thread, most of the posters are against the change. I don't see much value in it either. There are a number of ways around the change that won't stop pirates. The more effective means of stopping copyright theft are notifying the ISP and rebiller (if on a paysite) of the theft. For somebody who wants to claim the image as their own, it won't take long for anyone else to verify that this individual never created that image and lacks the requisite skills to do anything good on their own.

hmmmm... I just tested it and found the right click option working just fine...copied 3 images out of the gallery with no problem..right clicked save as well.

I had the same luck, tried it in NT and XP (I have a crowded cubicle..the Win 2k's not even on the Net..;) I think they've decided to backpeddle a bit..when you're running a site, you listen to your customers..and I think they did. I'm back to normal, and I just want to say thanks to them for knowin' when to fold 'em..;)

right click still works here too.

Right click works on thumbnails for me, not on the full size picture. But that's okay. I don't take other people's graphics anyway so I don't need that particular feature.

I just saved one from the photo gallery here :) so its still working. as is usual for this kind of thing... its probably a browser issue. That's why I never bother trying to implement a 'fix' that actually 'breaks' browser features. When someone wants this feature, I just do a flash gallery.

Nice feature. But being a compter nerd here why bother. You can go into your temp net files folder and copy whatever you want from the web page in question.

I just found that with IE, I can simply drag the image off the page and onto my desktop. To Spit: well, maybe that's why we make it an option. If folks are concerned about theft and think this will help, they can click on it and make it happen and rest (more or less) easy. But if they don't mind their work being copied off, that can happen as well. Frankly, I don't see the problem here.

I'd hate to see that feature on freestuff or marketplace. I rely on those thumbs to help me remember what the stuff is.

I noticed it this morning as well. I suppose it has it's pros and cons, but it kind of irritated me, because when I am browsing the galleries I often prefer to open up several pictures in different windows for looking at and commenting, it often works MUCH faster for me that way. Same with the marketplace. Although reading through this entire thread, perhaps its a moot issue at this point. :) But if it's not, how about making only the larger images themselves unclickable? Although I agree with most, it doesn't really have much affect. Just my 2 1/2 cents.

Right click saving is still working for me, thank goodness. I hope the staff re-thinks this plan, because if I'm willing to Printscreen anything I want to save, so will the pirates. SnowS

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/polls.ez

looks like a landslide for keeping it as it is, so far.

Disabling it right click is a good idea but it won't stop the thieft. When you view an image, your browser put a copy of that image in your Temporary Internet Files. Anyone that wanted to steal an image has it already on their computer in the Temp. Internet Files. Sorry to have to mention that.

Of course it won't stop theft. It might discourage the lazier thieves. I voted "don't care" because there seems to be a conflict of interest here. People want to download other people's graphics but they don't want other people downloading theirs. I'm ignoring all further complaints of graphic theft in this community. So many of you are engaging in it and then making lame excuses to defend it as your special case, and because you're so darn special, you shouldn't have to ask permission to download someone else's stuff. I never believe what people say if it doesn't match how they act. When you download without permission, you tell me the quality of the person you are. Thank you, those of you who have revealed yourselves so clearly. And it would really be that hard to ask the artist if you could have their graphics on your hard drive? Really...you are that lazy or that indifferent? I guess so. Oh well. Not my problem. I don't care.

Actually I like Dacort's idea of a just visable watermark. It has a better chance of protecting the image. There are jsut too many ways to get around the right click disable. The water mark makes it nearly impossible to claim the picture in question and done correctly, doesn't distract too much from the picture. Typos and opinions are my own, I appologize for the first... mike

Dialyn, I hope you don't lump all of us who are against disabling right-clicking in with the image thieves. I enjoy saving images from sites all over the internet and I do not post them elsewhere without permission. I also have absolutely no objections to anyone saving my images or even posting them elsewhere; I see that as a compliment. My only objection would be for someone to claim my art as their own, which seems to be the real problem behind all of this anyway. Just my opinion as always. Thanks, take care. SnowS

Please do something besides taking the right click option away. I purchase a lot, at least my wallet thinks so. I save the pictures to help me keep record of my purchases and freestuff collection. I'd be lost without them. Also, because of the short/abbreviated file names RO uses on download purchases, I have to rename the files when I download them, to make sense of what they are. I use the right click to copy the name of the product and the artist so I can past that into the zip name for the download. A few bad apples shouldn't make things impossible for the masses. Please find a better, more user friendly solution. Thanks, J

I have an option that should make everybody happy, make Rendersity a pay site. Thieves won't come here because they will have to pay to get to the images. Troll won't come here because they'll have to pay to get in. Juveniles looking for a free porn site won't come because it's not free. That should make everybody happy.

I can right click on everything...the thumbs and the full size picture. Did you guys already change your minds?

I know of other ways around the right click thing too that haven't been mentioned ( and I'm not going to give theives the info either ;) but I think I am just going to mark my work somehow now. Also the other thing is if it's stolen when it's uploaded or saved to their comp as to the person who created it, it's all dated so theft can be proven. I would be happy to think that someone found my images worth using as desktop wallpaper. So I'd like to let them as long as no ones claiming to have created it anyway. I'm new but I work hard to! :) Oh also I know of some people around me that think if someone stops the right click thing then they take the work just to prove they can! It's almost an insentive to them. I hate to say it, but it seems to me that if it's online it's accsessible to others no matter what is done.

Saving an image to your own hard drive for personal and PRIVATE use/viewing is absolutely fair use. So long as they're not redistributing or sharing the image (or a derivative of it), they're fine. Assuming that anyone/everyone who downloads an image must have some sort of evil intentions is just as wrong as assuming that everyone who uses right-click is trying to download the image to begin with. :-)

I also use it to dsave my OWN images elsewhere. If I have made a picture at home I upload it to my gallery. Then from time to time I change the pic on my wallpaper AT WORK with one of my images. Now I can't do that? Bleh. Of course I can e-mail the picture to myself but frankly this is SILLY. As it has been mentioned, you can allways get the pictures from the cache or by Prn Scr or otherwise, it's not even HARD, just inconvenient for a few secs. But still annoying. I voted against it.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/polls.ez

I know a number of people collect my pictures to their hard drive for viewing offline. I have no wish for things to be made harder for them!

I didn't see it when they had it - but did they also disable the image toolbar that appears on IE 6? Won't do much good I just get tired of seeing the thing over images here.

YES! I posted a comment about that in the Admin forum. PLEASE disable the stupid toolbar. It won't damage or impede anyone's ability to navigate anything, and it's damned annoying. It's super easy to get rid of it, so you may as well. ;-) bonni

Er.. If you think it's annoying, you candisable it in your browser afaik. I find it very convenient.

Image saving still works in galleries. Click and hold on an image in Netscape, "save this image as", download to disk. Not that it matters. Thieves could still pick it up from their cache folder, even if you slap a NoSave header or command everywhere. Slap a NoCache command on it and they'll do a screencap. Disable screencaps on videocards (like Radeon tried to do) and they'll write a routine to enable screencaps. Thieves are like viruses - they'll always find new ways of weaselling (sp?) their way into your files.

The code was removed, pending a poll.

To get rid of littlel toolbar just move your mouse off the image. LOL

I think this is an absolutely great idea. Punish everyone because a few people steal images. And I'm not alone in this thinking: a full 12.5% of the people agree with me! In the words of Captain Picard, make it so! The people have spoken! Disclaimer: the above cited "12.5%" number is the number of people who answered "yes" to the survey compared to the total number of people who took the survey. This number may or may not be representative of the entire population of the site. Disclaimer 2: this is a private site. They are free to make any changes they want, whenever they want, with or without feedback from the users, if they feel it is in the best interest of the site (though not necessarily in the best interest of the users). If they feel the only way to prevent image theft is to block the right-click menu, then that's just tough. Like the change to the colors and interface: you either get used to it or you leave.

Well, to get rid of that irritating toolbar I just use Netscape. shrug On the occasions when I have to open IE for some reason, I find it annoying. Yes, I know you can turn it off in the browser. I still thinks it's an irritating "innovation" and someone at Microsoft should be smacked. Come to think of it, lots of people at Microsoft should be smacked... ;) bonni