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Subject: GIRL is due next week....Who's buying?
I'll bite. I have to see first hand how she was jointed and how good the bends look in Poser compared to what I've seen of her in 3dsMax. She'll also be my first and only toon character purchase. I predict GIRL will be one of the most popular items DAZ has ever sold, but you don't have to be psychic to predict that. ;-)
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Not I, but only because I don't think I'd use it much. I'll buy when an idea or project calls for it, not because it's the latest "must have" mesh. IMHO it's been over-hyped for too long. I can appreciate DAZ' excitement over acquiring rights, but there's sort of a backlash/yawn effect that happens when you hype something for too long before releasing it.
Not now anyway. Maybe later if I can afford it. For the moment, I'm more than satisfied with Sara, now that Steve gave us the morphs to make Sara2 look like Sara1. ;o) It's not as if I was doing that many great things with Poser. I like to texturize and that's about all I do so I don't think I'll spend lots of money on a character just to enable me to offer more free textures, it wouldn't make sense. BUT if I ever win the lottery... loll BTW... Does she have an adult body? She has the face of a kid of about 6 years old. (On this picture anyway) France
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"I'm more than satisfied with Sara, now that Steve gave us the morphs to make Sara2 look like Sara1" Huh? Where?
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What specifically makes you think she'll be released next week? I think when DAZ says "in a few weeks," that should be taken as code for "expect it when you see it," if for no other reason than to save on gray hairs. Personally, I don't plan on buying GIRL. I am a toon figure fan, but she's just not toony or anime-ish enough for my taste. I'm more a fan of the Koshini Family and Anime Doll, and if I buy another toon girl, I'm more tempted by Staci.
Attached Link: Sara's Fan Club
>>"I'm more than satisfied with Sara, now that Steve gave us the morphs to make Sara2 look like Sara1" Huh? Where? << At Sara's Fan Club of course! ;o) See link attached. FranceFrance, Proud Owner of
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EEEP! I got the impression that she's be out next week. It's actually PREVIEWS of stuff that will be coming out. I'm very sorry if this is not the case. MY VERY BAD!
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Nah. I have enough trouble trying to keep my current "Poser Family" clothed. I can't really afford another new figure to buy another new set of clothes for. I bought Koshini 2, so I'm kind of "tooned out" right now, anyway ;-)
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I'll second 28 & 29 above -- unless there's a B.O.Y., I'll not use it, and it's unlikley my clients will have much call for it. in fact, right now I'm getting requests for more ichiro stuff in my work. Guess I'll have to tackle Rhino after all... (ugh!)
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I'll be buying her without a doubt.... even if they totally screw up the joints.... I'll re-joint her in XSI and Max anyway. I have two websites with clients waiting for her and some pinup clients waiting. Right now I use Koshini (1) and Staci (staci ROCKS). HER is nice but the mesh looks liek it may have been polu reduced. On the other hand, if DAZ ruined the GIRL mesh I will be... upset. If they did it RIGHT? It could save Daz.
I prefer the HER figure from Sixus1 Media as she's more fiesty and the missus prefers Sara (I think now more because DAZ tried to screw Sara than because she dislikes the GIRL). To be honest though, with the morphs that Netherworks has been displaying over at the Sixus1 forums - even if I wanted simple "sultry/sexy", I could get it with the HER figure!!!
"HER is nice but the mesh looks liek it may have been polu reduced" Actually, the base mesh was given to us in its original low-poly form which was used for sub-divisions in MAX. From that it was subdivided and topolgy was coaxed into a form that Les thought was best for Poser. You have to keep in mind that the original version renders were in MAX and that it was subdivied twice at render time, giving the illusion of greater mesh density. --Rebekah--
Attached Link: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=5113&start=72
I was excited at the beginning what last year, earlier this year, now no way. I LOVE H.E.R. from Sixus1. BlindEnvy did a nice face morph with magnets for H.E.R. really soft and lovely. Check the Daz link to see her face morph picture. H.E.R. and The Girl seem similar to me, though Girl is inocent and H.E.R. just rocks more to my tastes. Free for the Base model for H.E.R. sure helped also.
Just for the record here, a point from our end that might apply to Daz as well...
H.E.R. and Girl are both figures which have come from individual artists who do not work with Poser and have been brought, the former through Sixus1 Media and the latter through Daz, to the Poser users. Ok, so that's a given. But here is the thing that I find a little disturbing and it's a simple term that's emerged: Poserized.
I hate that term. It makes it sound as though these figures have been ran through some conversion utility. I'm sure the base figure for Girl will have went through many of the same alterations and layers of work that H.E.R. went through for us. I personally worked with Max for 7 years and have worked with Maya for just over the past 3 years. Through all my time in this field, I've concentrated on character work. From having worked with Poser since the first version, I can safely say there is no way to convert any figure 100% from "high end" packages over to Poser. By virtue of just the fact that a figure has to be cut into the appropriate groups for Poser rigging, you already have a certain amount of work laid out in that task. Add to that, that for a figure to be successfully adopted by the Poser community, there are a LOT of things one has to do quite differently from the way you would work in such "high end" packages. One of the primary changes is that, from my experience, animators using these packages will work with a low res mesh up until render time where they will substitute that with a subdivided version either manually or through the render engine. Poser 5 attempts to emulate this and does so pretty well if you take it into account during modeling, but when converting a figure from Max, Maya or Lightwave to Poser, you have to do the subdividing up front. Some might say, "what's the big deal there? Hit the subD button a couple of times and there you go!" Well, if only it were that easy!!! Every artist has thier own unique quirks/style in modeling, and rarely does a "high end" model have a topology that, upon a simple subdivision, is appropriate for use in Poser. It takes work and planning and occasionally some compromises in order to strike the right blend of the original artist's vision with what works best in Poser.
This may seem odd coming from me, but I wouldn't be too aprehensive about the conversions of H.E.R. or Girl from thier original formats to Poser. Simply put, Sixus1 Media and Daz, though not exactly bedfellows, are both in the business of Poser content, and specifically original figures. I might have my own little issues with Daz on some levels, and Sixus1 Media doesn't directly support them or thier products, but I would have to say that H.E.R. and the Girl both deserve a good look from Poser users because both us and Daz have put a lot of work into getting these figures out there for everyone. Granted, it's a little easier to give H.E.R. a look right off because she's free, but I wouldn't knock the workmanship in either figure just because they started in another artist's studio, and were for use in applications other than Poser. I would have to say that it gets very tiresome in "high end" circles having to fend off the "low end Poser" attacks, and some of what I see in this thread borders on that...and in a Poser forum no less!
I guess to sum it all up, for me anyway, these figures, both H.E.R. and Girl, are conversions of their original artists visions into a format that should work well for Poser users, adding two more shades to the growing pallete Poser users have to choose from. I think credit should be given, too, to the artists/artisans who work on projects such as these because converting a figure that has already been used in another application to something that Poser users can readily work with is never as cut and dried as the term "Poserized" would lead many to think.
-Les
BTW: Thanks for the support there, MC...
Message edited on: 07/23/2004 01:43
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There were new 4 screen shots of morphs for GIRL posted in the DAZ forums. Messages there indicate that this model will be available sometime next week. I was just curious...who's going to buy her?
Message edited on: 07/22/2004 12:40
"Few are agreeable in conversation, because each thinks more of what he intends to say than that of what others are saying, and listens no more when he himself has a chance to speak." - Francois de la Rochefoucauld
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