I have tried the Vue demos for several years now and I always had stability problems on two different systems. Has E-On corrected the stability issues and bug problems? thanks

hello .. lot of software have a stability issue problem (max maya .. others bigs 3d softs...) so in use .. take X.1 or X.2 version not X.0 version only for you ... just test vue5 .. just a problem to run on my MAD64 .. other running perfectly on my AMD XP3000+ after some tests .. stability is good (100% of stability is impossible..) for example i run some professionnal construction soft... very expensive money... and stability is 80-90% max ... all soft crash .. the question is how ?

"a lot of software have a stability issue problem (max maya .. others bigs 3d softs...)" Excuse me but in my humble opinion ...Max and Maya DO NOT have instability problems, on ANY PC I know of. As for Vue, I'll just shut up, as I've read what happens here when you say something about Vue's bugs :-( Regards RN

For me personally, I've never had any stability issues with Vue/Poser or anything else for that matter. When proggies have trouble is my own fault, by pushing the limitations of any software...ie..too many objects/having programs running in the background that shouldn't be etc.

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depends, as far as i know theres not a single software out there thats totally bugfree. that of course doesnt mean it has stability issues, but i woudnt claim that any application that i know of is perfect. Other then that i very much doubt that something happens if you report a bug, reporting bugs is something every developer i know of encourages, but spamming about the same bugs over and over or talking thrash is another thing. so to answer babas questions, i dont know if his problems are fixed or not, if he has had stability issues with every single vue version hes ever tried he might have the same issues this time around aswell, ive had zero problems with vue4 and pro on my computers as far as stability goes and with a few exceptions rarely been bugged(open gl for one) Vue5 has worked realy nice for me including open gl, exception being one computer rig, and as far as i know most others that has tried it has had a much better experience then with vue4, but ive seen atleast one more vue5 user (cnevian) having the same issues as me on one of his computers while it works perfectly on another, so some issues still exist, but they seem to be quite rare. software,driver,hardware related? no idea.

War2...at least in MY opinion there is a difference between stability & bugs. All software I've had has there bugs....but for ME...I don't have programs crashing all the time..that's what I consider stability :) Sorry, I should have been clearer :(

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RN; If you're referring to bonnyclump...I have nothing personal against himher, but I've been fighting to avoid calling himher 'NaySay Guy' for a few months now (no offense to Dr Geep). Every post that involves Vue in any way, shape, or form is utterly negative, and not in a good way; if a lot of people =don't= have a problem, and only a handful do, then the odds are it is their configuration. If something is repeatable its a bug, like the GL handle issue that ShadowWind isolated a few weeks ago in VuePro. A steady stream of 'It doesn't work for me, it's trash' isn't very helpful in solving any problem. She appently doesn't like Vue or VuePro; I tried Worldbuilder and found to to be the buggiest kludge I ever encountered. I moved on...I didn't feel some imperative to convert the heathens, as it were. At the moment I'm mildly steamed about Vue 5; I haven't gotten a single Rendercow to function on my nice little rendergarden; that runs the gamut from and XP-1700 to and Athlon 64-3000, and Win2kPro SP2 to WinXP Pro release. But I feel it needful to make sure I've done all I can before waving the debug reports at E-on, so that I =know= that it isn't my system's at fault.

Thanks all .. I understand there will always be bug issues, having once programmed in C, I really understand that. I assure you that I am not trying to incite a riot or flame war here. Apparently, from reading some other threads, there seems to be some animosity about 'critiqueing VUE'. I really do not want to be involved in those matters. :) I have clean systems that I run other graphic programs on and these programs run with out crashing and that was the problem I actually had with Vue, the constant crashing and freezing. I suppose if VUE 5 is running much more stable for most people without crashing then I would be satisfied and would feel safe about purchasing VUE 5. Of course I will try the demo first. :) Sooooooo ... bugs aside, are people experiencing less crashing and freezing ? thanks

as far as i know thats the case babalouie, vue5 seems to behave alot better for most persons, but just look around, some poser users seems to have some bug issues, and rendercows seems to cause some problems if youre using a renderfarm. but stability seems to be working like it should, dont know much more then you tho :)

thanks war2, the rendercow issue is something that I am keeping an eye on for now and I am glad to see that folks are having less crashing. I have systems with Win2k Pro and I am sad to say that VUE 4 and World Builder are the ONLY programs to have died a gory and horrid death. I believe that I shall give the VUE 5 demo a shot this weekend. :) thanks

theres no vue5 demo available for the moment as far as i know, so youll have to wait :)

Well, the question has been posted to E-on's tech support; I'm satisfied that no two configs are the same, and they bomb with an access violation just after they start to render a frame. Sounds suspiciously like they may have used an incorrect build of the Cow for the gold master again, like they did with the release of VuePro. However, -Mover 5- works just fine; cloth dynamics import and work properly, and I'm working on a 'strain the system' test scene to throw at the garden when it works (V3, RDNA's Beast Hunter outfit, the skybike, a scaled up grid of Dystopia city blocks with some tweaking of materials a-la Helgard ne. Numanoid, and some serious windforce on the dynamic hair. And since they have a working OpenGL implementation in V5, the issues created by that seem to be no more.

As mentioned above, I heard back from tech support (quicker than I expected, frankly, seeing as it's Friday), and they were able to reproduce the problem. They also said they are working on the fix and hope to have it soon, as this is 'a pretty serious problem' unquote. So anyone contemplating picking up a soldering pencil and morphing into GinzuGeek, Super Nerd.....Don't. Your system is innocent. This time.