Im totally beginner here.. both on renderosity.com and the program of POSER i just started few days ago.. but i have been wanting to make poser sign something in american sign language... since im deaf and I think it would be cool. Any suggestions of where i can look for it or maybe some tips on how to do it? I was happy to find out Poser already have one handshape that signs "I Love You" (default handshape) but i want more.. so your suggestions or tips would be extemely helpful. (i just need something to start with and work on it) Also... i heard about challenges.. was wondering where i go to challenge someone to do my picture into a model ya know.. where the model looks like me. (was curious about how it turns out) some comments on this would be nice too. thanks

I have seen a set of hand poses somewhere for American Sign, not sure where but it might be in the freebies here.

You might also try DAZ, www.daz3d3d.com I have a set of hand poses from them. Most of the hand poses are for grasping objects, but included in the set is hands signing each letter.

OOOO thanks!!! ill check it out now.. is excited now WOOT!

Hm... site cant be found?

it's www.daz3d.com :)

oh lol a typo hehe

yeah :) a typo. in any case, if there's no american hand sign - you can always do the hand poses yourself or make someone over here do it for you :D ...

yea i can do that ill have to look for it first if not ill try to make handshapes myself... and hope they comes out good lol if both fails then i definitely will ask someone to do it for me ;-)

Hi, I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but Poser 4 introduced a Hand set of the Sign Language alphabet. In Poser 4 or 5, if you go to the Hands library, the P4 Sign Language set is there. Hopes this helps.

Oops, sorry 'bout that DefaultGuy, ... x-posted. ;=[

awesome... Geep.. that picture you put.. it spelled my name.. real name o.O well not exactly.. it said hi glorio but dang pretty close... how do u know my real name? Dang! i truly appeciate your help this is sooo awesome smiles widely I will be sure to keep you in my mind if i need any more help

this is dang so awesome!!! im amazed lol :-D i cant belp but be curious.. how did u know my name? o.O

Haha. Shall I put Gloria out of her misery?

Clicking on your name takes you to a page where one can look at your artist's page, your freestuff page etc, send you a personal message, or an e-mail. And it's at the e-mail section, right under your user name, that your real name appears.

Welcome aboard, Gloria. I did the set of hand poses at Daz. I didn't include any signing poses because, as already pointed out, there are a load in the default hand pose libraries that come with Poser. Oh, and it's good you've bumped into the good Dr Geep early on. Heed him well, for he has much to teach us all. He probably didn't look up your name, but simply intuited it. I hope 'intuited' is a real word.

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well im sure everyone will have much to teach me.. including my bf who have more experience than i do (hes the one who got me into this hehe) the whole thing is really cool so much to explore, so much to try and to change .. its a good way to put your creativity in use ;-) and to keep me busy heheh whistles i wasnt too bothered by people knowing my name.. i was just wondering how.. since i have looking around for whatever that could have gave it away ;-) no biggie

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There is also a Python plugin that can animate the sign language. Although it does it unnaturally because it only take the letter poses into account. If if going from one letter to another means repositioning a fingure from here to there, it will do that while also going staright through any other fingers that are in the way as opposed to being properly keyframed to go around any fingures that are in the way Pete

faints so much to learn lol

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YOu cant actually be serious about $150 bucks though right? Sure a lot of effort went into creating them but most definatley not 150 bucks worth. Maybe 30 bucks tops if that

What is shown is not a Poser product for sale. These are royalty-free, hi-rez illustrations of each separate hand position.

Don makes a good point about meshes .. but even the latest Unimesh (M3, V3, David, Steph3 etc) leaves a lot to be desired. The problem is mainly the base of the thumb. Take the sign for the number 4, shown above. I can touch the tip of my thumb against the base of my little finger without any effort. Poser figures (so far) can't. As a result, getting the right conjunctions of fingers and thumb in hand poses requires unnatural twists and sideways movements of the fingers. The other anatomical error is that Poser fingers bend where the finger meets the main body of the hand. But, if you bend your own hand, you'll see that actually it's your palm that bends where you've got those creases in the skin running transversely across your palm. Look at your hand sideways on and notice where your knuckles are.

The Unimesh is an improvement over the P4 hand mesh. But, as moochie infers, it still leaves a lot to be desired. Even the Mill 3 hand will not allow all fingers to touch, as in a salute, without really distorting the look of the hand. And yes, the thumb movement is fairly crude. But, I did the best with what I had. Hopefully the next mesh will be gentler on the hands...

yes i just discovered that myself.. its really tough especially trying to make sign for "friend" now thats tough! and yea making signs are pretty good im impressed. i cant imagine how long it would have took you to do that heh :) now i got posers all done ... time for me to finish it up.. is trying to figure how to put Text words with poser that i saved by the way... i wont buy that for 150 bucks.. sorry don :) but thats too high price lol

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re: "Text words with poser ..." Do your text (in your Paint pgm) and then apply it as a texture map (in Poser) to a square prop or box prop or ... cheers, dr geep ;=]

I havent learned how to do texture map yet lol i guess i will learn that today heheh

BTW - Do you have P4, PPP, or P5? ;=]

Poser4 yes... just got adobe photoshop recently Thats all i have heh nothing else ..

Thats sooo cool! it does look like me.... cool! grins widely saving that image

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