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Subject: Erotic Pleasure from Poser
Listen, I'm just telling you how it is, if you want to open the same can of worms that have been discussed here adnauseum you'll get the same responses. The forums are not the galleries. Even the Galleries have certain rules regarding nudity. If you have questions regarding what is allowed where, I'd reccommend you read the site Terms of Service rules. They're fairly self explanitory. You'll see a lot of the same faces and screen names from here over at those sites with much less inhibition in regards to what we'l discuss. I'm a firm believer in "Everything has it's proper place". Those sites are the proper places for erotica discussions, Renderosity just isn't.
I'm not saying you can't broach the subject, but you'll likely get similar responses from most everyone involved. We go to the sites that focus on erotica for all of our erotica needs. Myself included. In fact, I prefer discussing erotica and porn, or whatever you want to call nudity, over at Maleposerotica, my nudes of choice.
Perhaps people don't discuss erotic uses of Poser because that's not really the thrust* of this forum. Renderotica is a more naturally appropriate place for such discussions, although I imagine they'd be permitted here within TOS, so to that end*, you can always start the discussion if you like. :-)
Although I've tried doing some mild erotica in Poser, I can't say that it "turns me on," because ... it just seems so silly to me. I like real people, ya know? However, the popularity of Renderotica shows that many people feel as you do. When I do Poser "erotica," it doesn't always involve nudity, and never involves graphic sexuality. I find cute "tease" sort of images to be more appealing than all-out porn, which to my eye is just plain gross, or boring, or stupid looking more often than not. My ideal is more like the pinups of Vargas ... leave something to the imagination, play, keep it upbeat. Erotica involves all the senses, not just the most base impulses. Too many people think that "erotica" means "pornography." My two cents anyway.
Although obviously there is no literal MPAA rating for Renderosity. I think Miz' metaphor is appropriate. It seems the staff* would prefer this to be more of a PG to "soft R" sort of site. Most of us comply accordingly. The fact that there are so many nudes in the galleries is because members* post them there, not because the staff* encourages it. Although I'm no prude and find truly artistic or incidental nudity to be beautiful, most of the images with nudity that I see in the galleries here are quite crass and unappealing. Oh well, to each their own, live and let live and all that.
asterisk * indicates "no pun intended" :-)
IMVHO poser is a valuable tool* from a neuro-psychiatric viewpoint, as it allows users at the x-rated sites to act out their violent fantasies (rape, murder, torture etc.) without physically harming any actual women. there may be a small percentage who do go on to act out these psychopathic behaviours on actual women, hence it can also be an useful way for law enforcement agents to monitor potential criminals.
Poser is pretty good for making virtual erotica or pornography; it depends on your skill and patience, as well as a good collection of morphs and props.
There is also quite a bit of money to be made from 3D porn, if you have the time and inclination to do so.
Nekkid people is nekkid people, pose them as you will shall be the whole of the law. :D
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
Quote - IMVHO poser is a valuable tool* from a neuro-psychiatric viewpoint, as it allows users at the x-rated sites to act out their violent fantasies (rape, murder, torture etc.) without physically harming any actual women. there may be a small percentage who do go on to act out these psychopathic behaviours on actual women, hence it can also be an useful way for law enforcement agents to monitor potential criminals.
What a load of psycho crap .......... It that the best you could do? How very, very sad!
I have been paid a hefty sum to create a plethora of sexual images using Poser. It was for a book (or ebook or something LOL) that was like the Kama Sutra, so they ranged from the tried and true 'standards' to the all out yoga inspired to the all but impossible. All in all there were about 300 images in total.
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my apologies, drafter, if references to sociopathic behaviour are upsetting. anyway, I'd much rather they post violent images than have them actually harm women physically. nobody's forcing me to look at those images, hence I see no overwhelming harm in allowing them to express themselves that way. although they might want to understand that part of the definition of the behaviour is an inability to understand how such images may severely shock and disturb others.
it's funny..I actually bought the Kama Sutra..and I think I only counted about 23 positions or so..;) don't everyone go running to check at the sametime..;)
There are a few artists here who do the works of Eros, but frankly you couldn't go into specifics if you don't want to violate TOS (I like TNG better..;) I've even seen animations, but dag, you can get all the eros you want on the web..still de non gustibus disputatum..;)
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Quote - I hope I am not stepping on any toes but it seems strange to me that there is so little discussing of the erotic possibilities that come from creating adult artwork in poser. I have no qualms admitting that the ONLY reason I spend so much money on poser add-ons is that they allow me to explore an erotic side that can only exist in fantasy.
Poser and the various characters allow me to play out adult fantasies and explore the "other side to my midnight".
Any others share my feelings?
Nothing personal, but if I want to explore my erotic side, I'd rather do it up close and personal with the love of my life and not vicariously through computer generated pixels.
Of course I do realize that there are people out there that find cartoons and other computer generized pixels sexually stimulating. I don't understand it, but I do realize it.
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are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
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heart whatever they might have to
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Quote - > Quote - Yeah, they've all gone to sites like RaunchyMinds and Renderotica. Renderosity is a more PG rated site.
If Renderosity is so PG then I wonder why there are soooooo many nudes here? Seems like a PG site would completely ban all nudity. If a film has nudity it gets an "R" rating, doesn't it?
There is "R" and then there is "XXX". You won't find blatant sex acts depicted in an R rated movie. However in the theater down the street that caters to the XXX crowd, you will find guys in trench coats sitting one per row, LOL
Which is what I think Mizrael was trying to say. Renderosity while allowing nudity, doesn't allow depiction of anything remotely sexual, such as sexual poses or sexual acts being depicted. Renderotica on the other hand caters to the more extreme crowd. They are in essence the XXX theater down the street.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Quote - it's funny..I actually bought the Kama Sutra..and I think I only counted about 23 positions or so..;)
Actually, there are only 10. Any others are variations of those 10 :)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
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"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Poser and the various characters allow me to play out adult fantasies and explore the "other side to my midnight". more power to you. i see nothing whatsoever wrong with that. i don't mind discussing it either. me, i admit to either cringing or laughing out loud when seeing 3D erotica. it's just so very, very bad. no way can that stuff turn me on, or even just aesthetically please me. i realize that 90% of everything is crap, and that includes porn, of course -- but i swear, when it comes to 3D erotica, that percentage goes up to 99.999%. probably because it's hard enough to strike a realistic pose to begin with (sorta ironic, considering the software is called "poser"), but getting two or more people to interact believably is on a whole new level of competency. and, while one can achieve non-touching poses alright, anything where flesh comes in contact with other flesh is problematic because digital mesh behaves nothing like real flesh. another problem is that there's more to believable intimacy than a realistic pose. expressions matter so very much. the vacant gaze of most portrait renders gets occasionally mistaken as deep soulfulness, but that simply won't fly in a supposedly intimate depiction of two people interacting passionately -- i know fake when i see it that clearly. good erotica is damn hard to create. good 3D erotica might just be outside of what most people can achieve with the amount of effort they put into it. do you notice this sort of thing? can you overlook all that? in how much is an erotic depiction a trigger only, and can therefore be somewhat crude? i find that sort of stuff (what makes people tick :) fascinating.
I use Poser to create erotic artwork, but not because it turns me on, especially. I do it for the challenge, for the income (sex sells), for lots of reasons, but "because it makes me aroused" just isn't one of them.
;)
You could probably get a pretty good conversation on this topic at Raunchy Minds, by the way. Very good forums there.
bonni
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I did warn you that you'd opened a stinky old can of worms Drafter. It's best to listen and go talk about these sorts of things where they're welcomed and you won't get responses like the troll comment, which was rather rude.
A Troll usually drops a stink bomb and runs, you at least asked an honest question and stuck around for the responses, even if you don't like the answers you got. A Troll wouldn't have done that most likely. My main reason for replying was to let you know there are places you can discuss these things without recriminations. I do hope you check out those sites if you're really interested in the answers. On top of all the erotic imagry you'll find, I think you'll find some well thought out discussions there too.
Oh and as for me? Well the most erotic thing I've seen Poser do is drape dynamic cloth over a figure as it's posing. Sometimes the peep show effect of that grabs my interest as the cloth settles in teh right and wrong places. :scared:
I keep forgetting about rauchy minds site LOL, was there for the Cinema contest a while ago then just sort of stopped stopping by.
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drafter69; Ignore the 'troll' remarks; that always happens these days when ever that 'S' word is invoked around here.... I'm with Bonnie. I like to do erotica not for the "Oooh, I see nekkid Vickie boobies, I gotta go to the bathroom NOOOOOOOOOW!" reason that many seem to not only assume, but have engraved into their ids, but for the challenge of it. I animate, and as mentioned above, one of the hardest things to get right is that interaction, contact and emotion. Some think that animating martial arts is hardest, but there you have a handy cheat; real martial arts motions are fast enough that you can get away with errrors, or hide them behind clothing or props. Two naked meshes is much more unforgiving. You -will- have more enlightened and educational discourse at both Rotica and Raunchyminds, if for no other reason that the self appointed Purity Police won't be all over you every third posting attempting to appear clever and righteous (and managing neither). Renderotica actually was once the sister site to Rosity several ego-quakes ago. Raunchyminds came about through the fallout from yet another ego-quake. And though it isn't an erotic site, Runtime DNA was formed by some of the former big names in Poser, period,after yet another ego-quake. Then again, there is nothing in the TOS forbidding this topic, so said PP really don't have a leg to stand on suggesting you take your marbles and get thee elsewhere, do they....?
Oddly enough, I have never created any erotic art with Poser, for pay or pleasure.
I understand it's quite a lucrative market, so maybe I should try to work on it.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
I appreciate all the input to my question. I seriously doubt that I will post much of anything again as some on the responses are very hurtful and certainly not what I had expected.
"Nothing personal, but if I want to explore my erotic side, I'd rather do it up close and personal with the love of my life and not vicariously through computer generated pixels."
That is the remark that actually hurt the most as in my life I am physically not able to expore my erotic side except through poser and my fantasy. Some of us have serious physical limitations that can never be overcome.
The question was legitimate and I will take it elseware. Thank you and goodbuy.
Quote - I appreciate all the input to my question. I seriously doubt that I will post much of anything again as some on the responses are very hurtful and certainly not what I had expected.
"Nothing personal, but if I want to explore my erotic side, I'd rather do it up close and personal with the love of my life and not vicariously through computer generated pixels."
That is the remark that actually hurt the most as in my life I am physically not able to expore my erotic side except through poser and my fantasy. Some of us have serious physical limitations that can never be overcome.
The question was legitimate and I will take it elseware. Thank you and goodbuy.
I wouldn't get upset about that reply. I know Acadia as a friend and I can assure you she does not say hurtful things.
Your physical limitations are/were not known, so please take the remarks in the spirit they were intended, just as an honest, straightforward reply.
Do not feel you can't post here. People in this forum are generally rather nice.
Hell, they put up with me so they must have a lot of patience. :)
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You simply have the wrong site to post your question.
Try one of the sites that caters more specifically to erotic art.
You would be even less welcomed at Daz3d, they dont even like to admit that people have genitalia.
try raunchy minds , male poserotica or renderotica and you will be welcome.
Rotica also has a chat room that can be entertaining.
If you need specific website addresses I have pmed you with a couple. Mentioning them here gets the same reaction as farting in church.
Actually Dale, I stand on two very good legs and my suggestion that Drafter take his or her questions to site where they'd be more welcome was for his/her sake not because I personally don't care to see erotic stuff here. I was honestly pointing the original poster to sites where that type of question is not only welcomed but also appreciated.. And since Erotica does include stuff like Snuff, Rape Bondage, torture and sexual acts, it indeed does fall under the TOS forbidden discussions:
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Raunchy Minds might be the better site. Renderotica's forums seem to indulge more in EXTREME politics than in erotica. I know, I was flamed for being a voice of moderation in one of them.
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Quote - [ I wouldn't get upset about that reply.....
Your physical limitations are/were not known, so please take the remarks in the spirit they were intended, just as an honest, straightforward reply.
Do not feel you can't post here. People in this forum are generally rather nice.
Exactly! Thank you :)
And Sam is right. I would never say anything to anyone to intentionally hurt them. I'm not a malicious person and neither is anyone in my circle of friends.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
I agree with hoadley (although I don't recall seeing him at 'rotica when I was there). they might decide to move drafter's thread into thunderdome if he uses terms like "hurt" and "crap", as that's when the sharks tend to move in for the kill. :lol: I recall similar threads on the b-t-k issue at 'rotica, and they're very reasonable about it, explaining why they do it. however, I still would advise against drafter trying to initiate another such thread there, for his own sake.
That's because I refrain from posting in arenas where behave so uncivily as the denizens of 'rotica do, and in fact are egged on in this behavior by a few of their own moderators.
The TOS here at 'rosity may be a little too restrictive for my taste, and the moderators a bit 'prudish' at times, but at least they don't take sides in debates and level insulting epithets at members whose opinions they dislike.
I prefer not to say any more about the particular forum that I was flamed in, other than that the moderator involved still holds a position of respect and trust at that site.
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matt, long time no see! I haven't actually said anything bad about your site, if you check this thread. as I said, I think you're doing a good service providing a place for b-t-k enthusiasts, as it provides an outlet for them, thus possibly preventing them from doing it in real life. however, it's unwise for you to guarantee that some new member won't be flamed, given past performance 
for those interested, matt (one of the mods for an rpg they have at 'rotica) is angry at me because, in their chat room, I asked them to be fair with one of their artists who was suspected of photoshopping some pin-up photos (don't recall his name). when I asked them not to form a lynch mob, and give him a chance to defend himself, they lost their cool and I haven't been back since. however, just to reiterate, I've never said anything bad about their site; quite the contrary - I support their work there. the main reason I haven't been back there is that I found I had lost interest, especially as the members of this site have been far more generous to me, in terms of free models, beta versions of new figures, etc.
Quote - It annoys me when I see people like hoadley & nancy spouting such utter shite about a site they're not welcome at because they are shit stirring, back stabbing troublemakers
Drafter feel free to post this topic at Renderotica, you will not get flamed over it
Sir; you have just proved my point! As for the verbal abuse, I see little call for it. Surely civil debate should allow for the honest exchange of ideas with name calling.
As for what annoys you or not, I really couldn't care less, I do believe in a Democracy that my opinion is as worthy as the next mans.
Drafter is of course free to adopt or ignore my advice as he sees fit, just as any other man.
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No there does not seem to be a site that is sexually themed but unwelcome of violence within sex and sexuality. We've been having that discussion co-currently in another thread.
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I see this thread getting locked down in the very near future. What started out as a discussion has turned into a personal mud slinging grudge match.
Can't we all just get along and leave whatever happened at another forum there? IMHO it is done and in the past and you should all move on and get over it already :)
If you don't like one another, then ignore each other. But for Heaven's sake, stop trolling each other.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Quote - I see this thread getting locked down in the very near future. What started out as a discussion has turned into a personal mud slinging grudge match.
Can't we all just get along and leave whatever happened at another forum there? IMHO it is done and in the past and you should all move on and get over it already :)
If you don't like one another, then ignore each other. But for Heaven's sake, stop trolling each other.
I stand corrected,
David P. Hoadley
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Quote - me, i admit to either cringing or laughing out loud when seeing 3D erotica. it's just so very, very bad. no way can that stuff turn me on, or even just aesthetically please me. i realize that 90% of everything is crap, and that includes porn, of course -- but i swear, when it comes to 3D erotica, that percentage goes up to 99.999%. probably because it's hard enough to strike a realistic pose to begin with (sorta ironic, considering the software is called "poser"), but getting two or more people to interact believably is on a whole new level of competency. and, while one can achieve non-touching poses alright, anything where flesh comes in contact with other flesh is problematic because digital mesh behaves nothing like real flesh. another problem is that there's more to believable intimacy than a realistic pose. expressions matter so very much. the vacant gaze of most portrait renders gets occasionally mistaken as deep soulfulness, but that simply won't fly in a supposedly intimate depiction of two people interacting passionately -- i know fake when i see it that clearly.
I'll stop there. because I think you're describing a general problem with Poser. And I think there are a couple of particularly obvious features: 1: Default Vicky You can get the basic Vicky, with limited morphs, for free. So there are huge numbers of pics with the same Vicky, maybe with free alternative textures. And the breast morphs, which can help show the difference between somebody standing and somebody laying on their back, are a paid-for extra. 2: All or Nothing Expressions Most Poser expression morphs, not just for Vicky, are a bit exaggerated when set to 1. Since people do use exaggerated facial expressions sometimes, you need that option, but too many people set every morph they use to the maximum. Anyway, if you check my gallery, I'm not using Vicky very much. Even this one uses Vicky 2, not the current one, with a lot of tweaking of the face morphs. And I sometimes wonder if the INJ-morph system discourages dial twiddling.
Not only on expressions, Antonia; I found that when sculpting my Aishwarha and Stephanie Swift characters (here in the forums), using Eve 4, that I reach a point where the mesh began to tear. At that point, I've learned by experience that it's best to spawn a morph target, and then set it at between 0.500-0.800 (usually 0.700 is best), and that way a certain softness of the face is preserved.
What goes for sculpting a face certainly applies to basic expressions, ie. less is better.
Yours truly,
David P. Hoadley
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Quote - No there does not seem to be a site that is sexually themed but unwelcome of violence within sex and sexuality. We've been having that discussion co-currently in another thread.
Uhm that depends on what you call violence.
Yes we have some pics on Raunchyminds that may be classified as violent, but PLEASE remember that BDSM isn't about violence - it's about consenting adults doing something they like to do.
Of course, when you render such things it may look more "violent" than fun, especially to the people whho are NOT turned on by such activities, but ...
PROPER BDSM isn't violence by far. Quite the contrary actually. It's alot about trust and care.
No, Rosity is a place where such discussions easily go out of hand, but that's why places like Raunchyminds and Renderotica exists. And Maleposerotica of course, though that one is a bit more specialized ;o)
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i checked out raunchy minds yesterday, and it seems to me well- suited to your interests, drafter69. the denizens seem very friendly to newcomers, and non-judgmental of specific fetishes. trekkie, i think a lot of people view certain aspects of BDSM as violent because they a) don't take the consent factor into account, b) don't grok that for some people pain can be pleasurable, and c) some form of female submission has previously been forced on generations of women and that's still going on in some countries, and it is therefore now very suspect. if one doesn't have that knowledge, or plain doesn't believe people when they talk about consent, or thinks female submission is unacceptably anti-feminist,then BDSM can sure can look violent.
I think it's the same thing that Poser newbies can fall prey to; the idea that an unclothed figure is there for the manipulating. So they do that. Some folks just never get past that part.
There's a crazy**world website out there (substitute the most likely letters) that does a lot of Poser prawnography (shrimp in compromising positions..;) you know what I mean..;), but as often the case..almost all of it is silly or sick, depending on your bent. Call me old-fashioned, but it reminds me of my first visit to a tpless beach; there are a lot of things out there that are better not exposed..;) from each according to their talent, to each according to their kink..;)
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I hope I am not stepping on any toes but it seems strange to me that there is so little discussing of the erotic possibilities that come from creating adult artwork in poser. I have no qualms admitting that the ONLY reason I spend so much money on poser add-ons is that they allow me to explore an erotic side that can only exist in fantasy.
Poser and the various characters allow me to play out adult fantasies and explore the "other side to my midnight".
Any others share my feelings?