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Subject: Advice needed regarding trees/forest scene

Ghostofmacbeth opened this issue on Mar 09, 2007 · 21 posts
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Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 11:00 AM · edited Sat, 16 November 2024 at 5:11 PM

I am doing a dense English forest ala Sherwood Forest and I need advice on trees and stuff. A lot of the poser trees out there are too small or not that great. Bryce trees have no way to make big/old trees (that I know of) and I don't meet the requirements for Vue. So, does anyone know of something to make a decent forest scene? Some extra programs are PC only so that could be an issue since I have a Mac. Thanks


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 11:11 AM

Also,  if anyone knows what kind of trees are actually in Sherwood Forest it would be cool if you could list them. Thanks


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 11:20 AM

Check for the XFrog Billboard plants for Poser by greenworks, Ghost.  He's got some in there for England.

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.

nickedshield ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 12:51 PM

Check 3dcommune, EDTA, Fantasy Forrest. Then head over to RDNA and check their trees or get the MPC Woodland Playset from Daz.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.

Miss Nancy ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 2:49 PM

oaks, birch trees et al. the forest still exists, even if robin never did. do a google search using "sherwood forest". do they still make "tree pro"?


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 3:30 PM

There is one tree that is looking good at RDNA but I am looking for a few more. I looked up Sherwood in google but only found birch and oak and I was wondering if others knew of more since I had never been. Thanks for the fantasy forest idea nickedshield ... I don' go there very much anymore and missed those.


mrsparky ( ) posted Fri, 09 March 2007 at 8:45 PM

Attached Link: http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/productdetail.asp?ProductID=241

Try these by SyaPed. They contain the type of British trees mentioned and the pack has both models for closes up, low poly oak and maple props for mid distance and alpha plane versions for backgrounds. 

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.


dolphing ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 10:08 AM

file_371333.jpg

a tip in poser or bryce you can use the default square rotate X 90 de gr. and scale an till you full the screen ,apply in materials room a picture which you can fine in the web from the forest you want .A little sample

Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 4:24 PM

no, wait - I just recalled arbaro, a free java tree-generator app that's pretty good IMVHO.


nruddock ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 4:53 PM

Attached Link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/arbaro

> Quote - no, wait - I just recalled arbaro, a free java tree-generator app that's pretty good IMVHO.

Link for you.

vince3 ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 9:50 PM

Miss Nancy / nruddock:

What is that app please? (arbaro) as there doesn't seem to be any info about it, from the renders there it looks like it is a 3D tree generator and you can render them in different apps but i was curious as to what format / file type  it exports as, as i was hoping it might import into Vue (maybe as .3ds for including as part of an eco-system)

also is it a stand alone or plugin for something else?, is it freeeeeeeeee? and is it stable?
just a bit worried about it as any time anything has ever gone wrong with my computer it has usually had something to do with java things (don't know about java stuff)

Thanks for anymore info about it.

Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 10:40 PM

I tried it for a couple of minutes and it seems to be a decent tree generator if you know stuff. If you don't it might make pretty generic trees. It does have a few presets but not many. Thanks for the link btw Still looking ...


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Sun, 11 March 2007 at 10:54 PM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=2550650&ebot_calc_page#message_2550650

vinnie, it's free, stable, easy to use, stand-alone, starts from command line, saves wavefront.obj files, povray files and dxf. I used it in OS X, but I'm guessing there is a command-line interface in windows, which also uses java. the arbaro readme explains how to use it in some detail. it can make trees nearly as good as treepro IMVHO, which is somewhat more expensive, assuming they still sell it.


infinity10 ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 4:21 AM

I'm really sorry to have to add - the real Sherwood Forest ain't really much of a Forest today !

Eternal Hobbyist

 

vince3 ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 4:24 AM

cool! Thanks Miss Nancy!! i'll have a look at it later then.

AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 7:01 AM

"Forest" in medieval england wasn't dense woodland. It was land managed for hunting, primarily deer. There were villages and farmland in the forst area, but Forest Law applied. Pretty much, you'd have the normal English trees: oak, ash, elm, birch, and a lot of others. The deer would probably lead to fairly open woodland that was short of ground cover. The Woodland Playsets come close to that look. Modern Sherwood Forest is mostly on lighter, sandy, soil, which has some effect on which trees thrive. Places like the Dukeries, to the north, are relatively modern managed landscapes, of the sort associated with Capability Brown.

Tracesl ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 8:00 AM

See Traveller's Old Wood Collection over at RDNA, wonderful detail.

Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 9:42 AM

Thanks for the tree list Antonia Tiger .... I am trying to do a good, accurate render for a friend.

The Park tree at RDNA looks good but the old wood ones aren't as good as I need since it will be a bunch of closeups.


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 11:15 AM

More details on trees in Sherwood (PDF)

Tracesl ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 11:49 AM

Quote - Thanks for the tree list Antonia Tiger .... I am trying to do a good, accurate render for a friend.

The Park tree at RDNA looks good but the old wood ones aren't as good as I need since it will be a bunch of closeups.

here is a close up of the old wood tree I used, just for referance..
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_138/file_1370382.jpg

Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Mon, 12 March 2007 at 12:28 PM

Thanks Antonia Tiger!

Tracesl .. Thanks. I will look at them again. I think I have most of them but the shot in the promo bugged me for some reason :)


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