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Subject: What's with the "excellent work!" in the galleries?


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jjroland ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 12:36 AM

Of course they do = )  

And they are welcome to post whatever they would like.  I was just curious as to why it might be - because it is baffling to me.  Many things in the world that are perfectly acceptable are subjects of curiousity and even sometimes annoying. 

/bows for Pjz - 

I was there !!!!!  It was history in the making!


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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 12:45 AM

If you are really interested in the reasons as to why a poster made a certain comment -- then send that poster a site mail and ask 'em.  I seriously doubt that anyone else except for that particular individual can solve the mystery of their motives for saying what they said.  😉

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 1:01 AM

.........just to hazard a guess........and please understand that this is nothing more than pure speculation on my part..........I'd tend to think that the commentators were trying to be nice.

But who knows?  Maybe they even liked the image.  And perhaps they also believe in following the old saw (as has been said): Brevity is the sould of wit.  So they chose to keep things short, succinct, and to the point.

Or perhaps they didn't have the time to say anything more.  Sort of like smiling and saying "Hi!  How ya doin' ?!" to your passing friend as you quickly rush off to some other urgent appointment.  You don't have the time to stop and listen for 30 minutes to how your friend is really doin'.

But this is all pure supposition.

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pakled ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 7:36 AM · edited Mon, 14 May 2007 at 7:40 AM

I've got some people who keep me honest..;) I don't mind...tell me I suck, but you're obligated to tell me why...;)

If I can see a problem, and I have a solution for it, I'll put a 'critique' in, but try to keep it positive. Truth is, after looking at @#$% near every picture since December '01, I've run out of original things to say (which is why I'm 'Pakled the Great (pic)'..;) Sometimes I just take a misspelling, or ironic title, and have fun with it, but that's as 'mean' as I get..;)

Some people have thin skins, or no skins at all...last time I cheesed off someone, I was put in a comfy chair and poked with soft cushions..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


jwiest ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 9:37 PM

Excellent Work!

LOL...ok...so I know what you mean/meant, but I can't help myself (as others couldn't either I see. LOL)

Actually I've noticed that with a few people and even have pointed it out to a few others as well.  I don't think it's a language thing, at least the ones I've seen, but it could be.  It's somewhat annoying, but at the same time sort of nice to know that they liked my stuff enough to bother in the first place.  I know it's not all about the number of comments or favorites or whatever, but it's nice to get them none the less.

So if you'll all go favorite something of mine...preferably the SAME thing so I can get on the charts again it'd be appreciated. :D 

LOL.

(kidding obviously)

Actually I've noticed I tend to offer more positive than negative feedback.  Somewhat 'cause I'm a casual poser addict who mostly just renders for my own amusement, so I don't put tons of effort into most of my work and don't expect others to either I guess.

John


Tashar59 ( ) posted Mon, 14 May 2007 at 11:26 PM

Just join the critique club and you will be back on the charts again.


PerfectN ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 11:57 AM

Jjroland, Acadia and stormchaser have hit the nail on the head. I was actually bitching along these lines with a similiar thread I started yesterday re the art charts. But that thread was reduced to some juvenile comments about chocolate.
At the very least it seems that what people are doing has become apparant and common knowledge - in fact gillbrooks enlitened me to things that were going on that I had no idea of.
Well said people.


KarenJ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 12:16 PM

But that thread was reduced to some juvenile comments about chocolate.

After I'd answered your question, yes.

Sorry, I should have remembered you don't like humour. My bad.


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


PerfectN ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 12:39 PM

I like humor....
When its funny.
And I wasn't referring to your answer.


KarenJ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 12:54 PM

Well we all have different senses of humour.

Which explains why "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" got a theatrical release.


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:09 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:12 PM

Good thing that Karen's humor is funny.

Here's a suggested list of rules for commenting in the galleries:

1.  You aren't allowed to comment on the images of anyone that you know.
2.  You aren't allowed to comment on the images of anyone with whom you've exchanged private messages in the last six months.
3.  You aren't allowed to comment on the images of anyone who's commented on your images.
4.  You aren't allowed to leave comments which are short & praiseful -- because that's not what you are supposed to do.
5.  You aren't allowed to leave short negative comments -- because that's trolling.
6.  The only types of comments which are allowed must be no less than 200 words in length, and the comments must be thoughtful, well-written, in-depth, cogent, and witty.  Always keep in mind that the Secret Comment Police are watching you -- so if you don't say what they say that you should say -- in the way that they say that you should say it -- then you'll be in Big Trouble!!!
7.  Anyone who includes the word "excellent", or the phrase "well done" in their comment will be permanently banned from the site.

Others rules can be added to the list, of course.  The rules set will be entitled as The Politcally Correct Speech Code For Gallery Comments, and it'll be printed up in a little red book.  Everyone must memorize the book, and must recite the red book's contents out loud at least five times a day.

Oh, and BTW -- you'll have to trade in all of your clothes for those workman's leisure-suit looking things, too.  Guaranteed equality is the goal here.

Thus it has been written - and thus you must obey.

PS - if you are expected to have an opinion, then we'll give it to you.

This isn't about frivolous things like having fun, folks.  This is Serious Business.

So don't you dare say anything funny. 😠

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:20 PM

Oh, yeah......I almost forgot: you'll have to shave your head, too.  We can't have some people being blonde, and some people being brunette.  Because things like that just aren't fair.

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archdruid ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:23 PM

:lol: ...... Hmmmm..... "if it isn't specifically prohibited, then it's required"> HMMMM.... then..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... Lou.

"..... and that was when things got interestiing."


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:35 PM

I'd put it a little differently: 

If it isn't specifically prohibted, then it isn't specifically prohibited.

Beyond that -- what you do, or don't do -- is up to you.

To coin a phrase:  Excellent.  Well done.

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:38 PM

What, mo more fun???  :blink:
You big Killjoy McMeanie you!  :tt2: 
And here I thought you were a nice guy! Oh, how wrong was I!  :crying:

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:44 PM
KarenJ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:53 PM

Damn, I'll see you guys around, I have to go ban myself. I definitely used "excellent" in at least one comment this week :lol:


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:55 PM
Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 1:55 PM

Quick answers to Xeno's list ;)

  1. I don't know anyone on here so you're all fair game to me ;)
  2. I don't get many private messages
  3. I haven't posted any images as Lucifer so I'm safe on this one too
  4. Wonderful ;)
  5. Utter tosh mate :p
  6. Well I think snip (edited for comedic value)
  7. exce........ wel..........lovely weather we're having today...

I'm off before Xeno hits me with his handbag ;)

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:12 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:15 PM

Was going to leave this one alone because - it had become apparent that the entire thread was not read and I was getting drug into a debate about it.  -  BUT one more time just for giggles _ I was NOT referring to 90% of the people who comment.  I comprehend that someone might not be able to think of something else to say, and might just say "nice job". they might just want to say something nice and not criticise - that was NOT what I made this post about in the first place.

This thread has gotten a tad twisted around to where it would appear that I am actually not appreciative of sincere comments - that is miles from the truth.  I would not implement any gallery comment rules.  I simply wanted to know if there was some concievable purpose to making comments that were not sincere - to better understand it.

I have now said this in every single way that the english language provides me to explain it.  I have probably repeated myself more often than not.  If you have a bee in your bonnet because I was curious, I am sorry, but feel free to make a thread asking why.  Short of learning another language I just can't express myself any more clearly on this one - and for the record at LEAST one person is still greatly misunderstanding me.

Thankfully there have been a couple who did understand and I didn't come across as a total witch = ) to everyone!


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:13 PM

This is most exc... you guys are too funny, oh, oops, no fun either... ***brav, no, not that... 
:blink: :blink: 😕 :blink: :blink:

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:14 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:16 PM

We've already got a candidate for banning.  In fact, we'll need to ban about 80% or so of the people who comment in the galleries, too.........because as everyone knows, they're all a bunch of.......(snip).......

My handbag is kinda heavy, BTW.  You're allowed to carry in my state. :biggrin:

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:29 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:32 PM

Quote - and for the record at LEAST one person is still greatly misunderstanding me.

Thankfully there have been a couple who did understand and I didn't come across as a total witch = ) to everyone!

 

jj -- I'm not picking on you -- really, I'm not.  But there are others about who'd stand up and salute a set of rules like those which I've so mildly suggested -- that is to say: they'd stand up and salute so long as THEY were the ones running the show.  And so long as THEIR rules were the ones that thre rest of us would have to obey.

Frankly, my issue with this type of thread revolves around the fact that people should simply be allowed to say what they want to say -- as they want to say it.  Not as I (or anyone else) want them to say it.

As others have complained about elsewhere -- so there are gallery cliques which form and shut others out -- so what?  The only way to prevent such behavior would be to institute a set of choking rules which most of us would never willingly agree to live under.  So......you deal with the reality of the situation as you find it.  The only other thing that anyone can do is to endlessly complain about it -- because people aren't going to stop doing what they do.  No matter how annoying it might be.

I believe that you are a nice person.  And I'd never dream of picking on you.  Nor did I read it that you are among those who'd like to see such a set of rules as those that I've suggested imposed on the rest of us.  Let me make that clear.

But there are people who do want to.  And my posts are intended for / aimed at them.  😉

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:32 PM

""Frankly, my issue with this type of thread revolves around the fact that people should simply be allowed to say what they want to say -- as they want to say it.  Not as I (or anyone else) want them to say it.""

Do you see the contradiction there?  Or am I the only one?


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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:34 PM

Quote - ""Frankly, my issue with this type of thread revolves around the fact that people should simply be allowed to say what they want to say -- as they want to say it.  Not as I (or anyone else) want them to say it.""

Do you see the contradiction there?  Or am I the only one?

 

No, there is no contradiction here.

I've never suggested that you -- or anyone else -- shouldn't be allowed to say what they've said.  I've merely disagreed.  There's a difference.

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SoCalRoberta ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:36 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:38 PM

OK, I read Xeno's rules and would like a bit of clarification please.

 1. Define "know". How can anyone really "know" anyone else?
2.  Big Brother is always watching. No message is truely private.
3.  Does that include telepathically?
4.  I'm dead 👎
5.  See response to #4. 👎
6.  Does copy and pasting The Gettysburg Address qualify? This rule doesn't say  
      APPLICABLE:rolleyes:
7.  Are those words in the Gettysburg Address?

(Sorry, some things just can not be resisted. :tt2: )


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:42 PM

Quote - I simply wanted to know if there was some concievable purpose to making comments that were not sincere - to better understand it.

 

This reminds me of how I used to get myself in trouble/and or misunderstood at times... I would ask a serious question, and vent a little at the same time.

What I found out that people end up focusing on the emotion of the question, and try to calm me down (mostly by sayying, don't feel this way, which is most unhelpful way of trying to calm someone down, by the way, but people do it all the time)

After I had calmed down (which often happened right after I hit "POST"), I was a lot more interested in "Why", and had forgotten the vent.

To my dismay, I would notice that for days, or as long as the thread was alive, people still kept telling me what to do to calm down, and my real question never really got answered. Usually, the more I tried to get the question answered, the more people thought I was still riled up (even if I no longer posted in a vert-like manner)

It seems to turn into a catch 22 or some sort of a group butterfly effect, one you vent, then everyon else's feelings get riled up a tad, and most of logical discussion seems to go out the window, and most participating individual pursues their emotional angle of the discussion - usually somewhat different to the initial post, but closer to something that has riled them up in the past, and the initial post reminded them of it.

It's not that people aren't understanding you, it's that by now, they're talking about something slightly different, and neglect to consider that you're reading it, and may be thinking, uh-oh, I didn't really mean it like that (not realizing they're no longer talking about you)...

I hope it all makes some sense, I have to run out so I'm not rereading and editing at the moment ;)

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:43 PM

Quote - OK, I read Xeno's rules and would like a bit of clarification please.

 1. Define "know". How can anyone really "know" anyone else?
2.  Big Brother is always watching. No message is truely private.
3.  Does that include telepathically?
4.  I'm dead 👎
5.  See response to #4. 👎
6.  Does copy and pasting The Gettysburg Address qualify? This rule doesn't say  
      APPLICABLE:rolleyes:
7.  Are those words in the Gettysburg Address?

(Sorry, some things just can not be resisted. :tt2: )

 

In response to your #6 above -- as I indicated in my post, the rules can always be added to.  In fact, I fully expect that the list of rules would do nothing except get longer and more complicated with time.  So.....a rule about comments having to be 'applicable' could be added as needed.

As for your #7 -- I dunno.  I'd have to look it up.  Let me go google that................:biggrin:

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:55 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 2:56 PM

It makes perfect sense Connie - a little clarity atm is helpful = )

I like forums - nice to talk to different people 
Sometimes though, I just get the feeling that no matter what you say someone will misconstrue it.  

I had always thought that I had a firm grasp on the language and an excellent ability to express myself - but in the world of internet forums I begin to think I'm  the weak link in that aspect...

p.s. connie Im working on an image in your honor - inspired by the art charts thread as we speak!


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:01 PM

Connie did an excellent job of explaining things.  Well done, Connie.  😉

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:02 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:04 PM

*I had always thought that I had a firm grasp on the language and an excellent ability to express myself - but in the world of internet forums I begin to think I'm  the weak link in that aspect...*It's not the language, it's the whole dynamic and people's feelings and interests, it overshadows the language. Selective hearing and understanding is much more common then people tend to admit, and most of the time it's not consciously done. Who would have thunk communicating could be so complex!

p.s. connie Im working on an image in your honor - inspired by the art charts thread as we speak!

[UH OH....  kitty runs to hide under the bed....]
I'm still waiting for the fallout from the last post I made there. I have a feeling I'll need a really dark corner to hide in for a while!

Xeno, You're welcome... Heh, I speak out of, dare I admit, experience... been on both sides of that interaction more times then I care to admit, and still not immune to it. But when I see it happening elsewhere, gosh, it seems so clear....

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:06 PM

Sounds like I'm needed over in the Art Charts thread.........

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KarenJ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:07 PM

I had always thought that I had a firm grasp on the language and an excellent ability to express myself - but in the world of internet forums I begin to think I'm  the weak link in that aspect...
Don't forget that many people here don't have English as a first language - so no matter how good your English, that may not help them!

I think one other factor here is that these threads do tend to pop up on many many different ocassions, each time with a slightly different twist to the question/comment/suggestion. So some people are kind of rehashing or restating their positions from last time the debate took place.

Of course last time we had one of those, the Critique Group was formed, so it's not all bad 😄


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


svdl ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:16 PM

Xeno, I almost wet my pants reading your posts in this thread. Brilliant humor.

Drat, now I have to be banned for the use of "brilliant'...

The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:20 PM

Oh no!

whew.....actually, you're OK -- "brilliant" hasn't made it onto the list of Banned Words yet.  But of course......it might be made retro-active.........

Better run & hide!

😉 :biggrin:

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 3:55 PM

Quote - Sounds like I'm needed over in the Art Charts thread.........

 

LOL, yea, I may need bailing out!  Although, whew, noone has touched that thread since my last post.  I can just see the mods go, oh, no she's pushing the envelope again... is that her third or fouth offense... 
[man, I'm hyper today...]

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:15 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:19 PM

Content Advisory! This message contains violence

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Here ya go Connie!  Can't put it in my gallery because apparently one is the limit per day for non-members.  Pooey.


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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:37 PM

Quote - > Quote - Sounds like I'm needed over in the Art Charts thread.........

 

LOL, yea, I may need bailing out!  Although, whew, noone has touched that thread since my last post.  I can just see the mods go, oh, no she's pushing the envelope again... is that her third or fouth offense... 
[man, I'm hyper today...]

 

Actually, I've been reading the 3DBuzz thread instead.  It's an interesting one, too.

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Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:43 PM · edited Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:45 PM

@JJ diet coke spew     LOL, that's just too funny!

@xeno  I'm afraid to go there, I might raise a ruckuss because I wouldn't be afraid of getting kicked off. Here, I have to be on good behavior.

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PerfectN ( ) posted Tue, 15 May 2007 at 4:56 PM

Karen1573
"Which explains why "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" got a theatrical release."...
...now THAT was funny.


KarenJ ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 5:03 AM

Cheaper By The Dozen 2: This Time It's Even Worse (or something)

I consider it an insult to my backside that I made it sit through 94 minutes of that tripe. 😠

I didn't let my little boy pick the weekend film for 6 weeks after that little excursion. I spent most of the film trying to restrain myself from shouting at the screen, "Hey buddy, ever hear of BIRTH CONTROL??"


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


Khai ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 6:53 AM

there was worse.

try john travolta's 'lucky numbers' - yes. he made a movie worse than battlefield earth..........


PerfectN ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 9:49 AM

NOTHING was worse than Battlefield Earth. My nose bleeds at the thought of that train wreck...
But to enlighten you Karen...they are in production for Cheaper by the dozen 3!
A sign of the acopolypse to be sure....


KarenJ ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 11:16 AM

What's the tagline...

"Cheaper by the Dozen 3: Because we're too cheap for a vasectomy"?

God... the brain boggles, it really does.

It's not that I don't like kids' films. I took littl'un to see Shrek, the ScoobyDoo movie, Happy Feet, Flushed Away, the Spongebob Squarepants movie, Ice Age, Open Season, Little Man, Mr Bean's Holiday, Holes, Click, The Pacifier, and god knows how many more. Most of them, I loved. Nothing approached CBTD2 for suckiness (although Little Man was bad. But it was still 10 times better than CBTD2.)

I can't believe I'm still ranting about how crap it was 18 months later, LOL.


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


archdruid ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 11:21 AM

.... OH!, yeah, the FIFTH horseman.... the one that the writers had edited out.  the one that goes something like, "... and they shall all become mindless formula imitators, for they shall have no original ideas." That one?  :laugh:  Lou.

"..... and that was when things got interestiing."


Khai ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 11:52 AM

beware.

Travolta has said he wants to make..........................

BATTLEFIELD EARTH 2!


stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 12:09 PM

karen1573 - Oh, I'm totally with you on this one. A few months ago I was ill so I had to spend the weekend in. I had seen all the latest movies  so I asked my young sister if she would lend me a DVD as I was really bored. Guess what the flim was? I generally like Steve Martin films but this was a pile of poo!  But the worst thing is that I actually watched it through to the end, it was embarrassing. My, I must have been ill, LOL!



PerfectN ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 1:58 PM

I don't think you were ill Stormchaser - you were in a coma
That said I LOVED happy feet


Rodma_Hu ( ) posted Wed, 16 May 2007 at 4:51 PM

"wow wow wow..........cool;)"

"passes for beautiful day, much deserving of stars"

"Excellent image!!!!
SUPER*"

And others...

I have to admit that I thought up this technique all on my own shortly after becoming an active gallery member, but then I discovered that I was just finding out about it. Now I call the practice "trolling for fans." You know who they are...Master trolls can hit the entire gallery in under 15 minutes - 90 to 95% of all posts, except the gay images.

Guess what? It works. You see them almost everyday on the favs.

The only problem is there are no troll filters currently available to determine authentic response. Thus, your own stats may become gamed as a result.

I have other rants, like miscategorized images (Poser vs. Mixed Media). Same phenomenon - a need to be loved. No time for it now.

I must learn to become more tolerant of the human condition.


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