Quote - I believe the material nodes it uses to achieve it's "radiosity" do not exist in Poser 5.

Laurie

Oh.  So much for learning more about poser lighting then.

Ah well, at least I can stop working on it, and stop wasting time.  Thanks.

NO_MAP is a bug in Poser that shows up in every version one way or another. It's caused by a shader (material) with an Image_Map node in it, waiting for you to add an image. Whoever made the material this way (often me) would save it so you could load it and then put whatever image you want or need into the right place. The indication of this is that the words NO_MAP (exactly like that) are supposed to be in the file, and this tells Poser that the Image_Map is supposed to have no map in it. Instead, it stupidly asks you to locate "NO_MAP". This is a bug that won't go away, for a good 8 years now.

As for sky6.jpg, if you would read my extensive writings on my site regarding the EnvSphere, you'd learn I am not allowed to redistribute any of the images I use. You have to get it yourself.

Read this:

https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/environment-sphere/environment-sphere-links

From my page there, you should find your way to pages such as:

http://www.philohome.com/skycollec/skycollec.htm

Sky6.jpg is the 6th image on that page.

As for EnvSphere in P5, it works fine, but won't produce any ambient light - it will just be there for visual background and for reflections. You need IDL to make it contribute to lighting all by itself, and that is P8+.

In P6, you could use an IBL, and I supply a free tool to convert, in Poser, EnvSphere images into IBL images.

https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/genibl---ibl-generator

However, P5 does not even have IBL. P5 predates even the most basic attempts to deal with global (ambient) lighting.

So - with P5 the only way to get decent ambient or omni-directional lighting is to use dozens of lights - sometimes a hundred or more. P5 sucks.

You can get Poser 8 for $30 when it's on sale, which is pretty often. Avoid buying a miniskirt and a hair, and you've got the $30.

Even everyday pricing, it is $60.

http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Micro-Software-Inc-PSR8HBX2/dp/B002KMQ8WU

Quote - You can get Poser 8 for $30 when it's on sale, which is pretty often. Avoid buying a miniskirt and a hair, and you've got the $30.

Even everyday pricing, it is $60.

http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Micro-Software-Inc-PSR8HBX2/dp/B002KMQ8WU

Another way: HDRSHOP and this: http://www.keindesign.de/stefan/poser/

Subsection, "HDRI for Poser 5 and ProPack", 

LightGenplugin

http://gl.ict.usc.edu/HDRShop/lightgen/

Hahah - HDRSHOP is not free anymore. It is $199. Just get Poser Pro 2012.

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As for sky6.jpg, if you would read my extensive writings on my site regarding the EnvSphere, you'd learn I am not allowed to redistribute any of the images I use. You have to get it yourself.

Read this:

https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/environment-sphere/environment-sphere-links

From my page there, you should find your way to pages such as:

http://www.philohome.com/skycollec/skycollec.htm

Sky6.jpg is the 6th image on that page.

As for EnvSphere in P5, it works fine, but won't produce any ambient light - it will just be there for visual background and for reflections. You need IDL to make it contribute to lighting all by itself, and that is P8+.

In P6, you could use an IBL, and I supply a free tool to convert, in Poser, EnvSphere images into IBL images.

https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/genibl---ibl-generator

 

Wow, what a resource, thank you very much indeed for the link to that page.

I'd like to get a higher version of Poser, but simply cannot do so right now.  My circumstances are extreemely limited for a couple of months - after that I might well be able to so indulge, but I daren't right now.

However, I can use such images in Bryce - which does have IBL.  And if you don't mind I would like to do so.

Luckily I already have HDRShop... te he he...

Quote - You can get Poser 8 for $30 when it's on sale, which is pretty often. Avoid buying a miniskirt and a hair, and you've got the $30.

Even everyday pricing, it is $60.

http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Micro-Software-Inc-PSR8HBX2/dp/B002KMQ8WU

What's a minishirt and a hair?

Lol.

Quote - Hahah - HDRSHOP is not free anymore. It is $199. Just get Poser Pro 2012.

Arg!

it was still free in 2011(sic)!

Humm, Picturenaut, http://www.hdrlabs.com/picturenaut/index.html

"Picturenaut's ability to run HDR Shop Plugins natively extends it's capabilities tremendously, because Francesco Banterle has already created complete set of high dynamic range filters and tools, that plug right in."

Someone's still living in the 60's - miniskirt indeed!

I was lucky to get HDRShop while it was still free, thankfully.

evolving into the micro mini skirt. 
i only wear them with opaque tights - to be on the safe side.

Ah well, microminiskirt - that different... lol

Walking home past the nightclubs last night, I'd have to say, I think the trend is away from microskirts...

Now the girls don't seem to wear skirts at all, just wide cloth belts.

Well 'micro' does stand for microscopic doesn't it? lol

Micro = small in Greek, also means 1/1,000,000, as in microgram (mcg). 1 mcg = 0.001 mg.  So a microskirt is 1000 times smaller than a miniskirt, or 1 million times smaller than a skirt. So, yeah, microscopic.

We'll be having nanoskirts next. LOL

Laurie

The next size down from a nanoskirt would be a femtoskirt... apparently ;-)

Quote - NO_MAP is a bug in Poser that shows up in every version one way or another.

It just happened to me for the first time...  Can I just ignore it an move on?  Is there any way to fix it?

Quote - > Quote - NO_MAP is a bug in Poser that shows up in every version one way or another.

 

It just happened to me for the first time...  Can I just ignore it an move on?  Is there any way to fix it?

Quote - this tells Poser that the Image_Map is supposed to have no map in it. Instead, it stupidly asks you to locate "NO_MAP".

So - you can ignore it since no map is required or you can provide a bogus image called NO_MAP and put it somewhere that Poser will find it.

Is  that really a bug?

It only asks for NO_MAP if the file has a "NO_MAP" with quotation marks in the script. As in

reflectionMap "NO_MAP"

but not in

reflectionMap NO_MAP

Most vendors seem to be aware of that these days. But it's always helpful to check every new content with CR Pro before moving it into the Poser runtime.

Quote - Is  that really a bug?

It only asks for NO_MAP if the file has a "NO_MAP" with quotation marks in the script. As in

reflectionMap "NO_MAP"

but not in

reflectionMap NO_MAP

Most vendors seem to be aware of that these days. But it's always helpful to check every new content with CR Pro before moving it into the Poser runtime.

That sounds nice in theory. In practice, some versions of Poser actually ask you to find NO_MAP exactly when the file contains NO_MAP. Poser itself has, at various times, saved such materials WITH AND WITHOUT the quotes. And for each case, there are versions of Poser that will complain WITH AND WITHOUT the quotes.

Please recognize what we're saying - many different flavors of the same problem have appeared in many different version of Poser and many different SRs were released to fix it, only to find it changed to one of the other versions.

For example, in November last year, the only way to ensure it didn't happen was to not say NO_MAP at all, but rather "" (empty quoted string).

A very thorough and long discussion, showing many different conflicting opinions is here:

http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?68014-NO-MAP-error-upon-loading-content

The conflicts are largely due to various people speaking about different versions of Poser, and acting like they were all the same version.

Quoting wimvdb (one of the most thorough and knowledgable testers/users - he's in the splashscreen credits) from November 2012:

Quote - Apparently it is not easy. I filed my first reports about this in 2006 and a couple of others after that. Each time we thought we had them all - all my test cases had it fixed. Then - after a while - you discover another case. New cases were discovered after the introduction of HW Shading, python enhancements, firefly optimizations and a couple of other things. All variations of NO_MAP were corrected as far as we could think of (no_map, NO_MAP, "NO_MAP", "no_map", NOMAP, "NOMAP", "", "  ", '', file "", file NO_MAP, file "NO_MAP" and more which I can't remember.
In the current release I have not seen the problem at all, so I can understand that it is difficult to track down. I use a LOT of old content all the time, so it seems most of the occurrences are handled correctly. I have the suspicion that there is another factor involved. Something like resaving the object to the library or something else which is not very obvious.

Quoting infinity10, same day:

Quote - I also received advice from Smith Micro Tech Support.  I am mentioning it here for benefit of other customers / users who encounter the same problem.
Problem arises if 2 conditions are met:
Hardware shading is turned on, AND content has image node but no image has been added.
So it is a content-driven issue, but NOT a fatal error if hardware shading is turned OFF.

 I understand. And I have to admit I really started to use Poser only with the first Poser Pro version so while the problem still exists I thought the many variations seemed to be a problem of the past (Poser still carries the images for parameters etc. from Poser 6 and before in the*.psd files in the UI folder...the past is haunting Poser in some ways.) Obviously not. But I just noticed that I have indeed a NO_MAP dummy in the Textures folder - beneath the never used Ground Default Texture.tif. LOL. Since four years! I forgot that. :-)