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Subject: Any fix yet for the OpenGL bug?


Darkworld ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 10:56 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 8:46 AM

Unfortunately even in Poser Pro I'm still crashing poser constantly when I use OpenGL for my render previews.

So I use SreeD mostly now, which certainly works, but because of the GFX card I have it runs a LOT slower in preview mode than OpenGL.

Anyone know if there is any sign of a fix for that?


RGUS ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 11:04 AM

I did get he latest nVidia driver for my card and the problems went away.. .haven't crashed the OpenGL thingy for quite a while now...


Gareee ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 11:21 AM

What graphics card, what drivers, ect?

The latest ati vista driver cleared up a LOT of opengl issues in many programs, including poser and lightwave.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.


Darkworld ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 12:40 PM

im not on vista im on Win XP x64.  ill double check my drivers


Darkworld ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 1:02 PM

nope.  just installed the new nVidia drivers from this May; still crashes right where expected.  i load up any Cr2 or Pz3 and then upon my first mouseclick poser just vanishes.

guess I'm back to SreeD :(    unless someone knows of another fix.


Darkworld ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 3:34 PM

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these are the settings i have in preview mode.  am i doing something wrong?

i tried changing Hardware to Software in the poser.ini as someone suggested, but it crashes either way.


adroge ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 4:03 PM

I had the exact same problem and fixed it by:

  1. upgrade to the latest possible nVidia drivers
  2. create a custom profile for poserpro.exe
  3. disable all possible settings for the poserpro profile

later I found out on the Content Paradise message boards (I forget which post) you only need to change one setting in the nVidia control panel. After that, it worked like a charm. I'm on Vista64, but it would likely apply to XP64 as well.


Darkworld ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 4:19 PM

which setting was that do you happen to remember?  also, if i disable ALL settings in the nVidia control panel for PoserPro won't that make it run as slow as SreeD?


Teyon ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2008 at 7:05 PM

Most likely it was anisotropic filtering or antialiasing. This often causes havock in 3d apps while working in preview mode for some reason. It's usually a good idea to set your drivers to allow the program to dictate what the settings will be or turn the features off completely for certain profiles.


adroge ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 12:46 AM

My settings are currently set to:

Conformant texture damp: Use OpenGL specification
Thread Optimization: Off

Thread Optimization was in a solution posted by Netherworks in the Poser Keeps Freezing On Me topic.


Darkworld ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 10:33 AM · edited Wed, 11 June 2008 at 10:38 AM

Poser is currently set to let the program dictate the 3D settings and it's still a crash-fest.

So i turned off anisotropic and antialiasing, changed conformant texture damp as you specified, and turned off thread optimization... and i thought it worked i loaded and figure and no crash, hit NEW and still no crash.

so i turned off poser and restarted (with OpenGL saved as preview) loaded a figure.  and crashed :(

EDIT:  AND THEN i double checked and somehow even though i hit apply the control panel had completely failed to add a profile for poser... so i redid it, hit apply, made sure it saved, and tried again- and NOW it seems to be working :D!!!!

so the question i've been waiting months to ask... if i upgrade my graphics card will i upgrade my preview speed?

thanks a ton for the help!


Gareee ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 12:16 PM

Depends on how old your video card is, and how fast the new video card is... also you might find your system is processor limited.. if that's the case, your processor could be limiting your preview speed as well.

With Vista, you can do a system evaluation, and my slowest componant that needs updating isn't my ati x1950 pro... it's my main processor.

Your memory speed can also be an issue with new systems as well as hd access speed.

Lots of factors all working together for optimum speed.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.


Dave8 ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 12:31 PM

Use this driver "94.24"   solved my OpenGL  crash bugs


jefsview ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 12:39 PM

The new nVidia drivers, 175.16, have solved all openGL problems on the 9000 series. But, as reported in other forums, not so good with the older (based on different architecture) GPU's.

Since this update, I haven't ahad a single opengl problem, not even with V4.2. And it's a 9600. Now I can crank up the GPU to full steam without a single problem.

Some at the CP forums running 8800's haven't received the benefit and went back to older drivers, or use the settings that have been discussed.

-- Jeff


Darkworld ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2008 at 3:38 PM · edited Wed, 11 June 2008 at 3:45 PM

i have a BLAZING computer, 3ghz intel extreme quad core, 8MB super fast ram, and a really good board.  the video is the slowest part because i got them mainly for Poser not for games, i have 2x 8600 GT - 512mb cards.

so if i make a significant video upgrade can i expect a preview speed increase?  that would really improve my business as i sometimes do scenes with 3 or 4 characters for work and preview crawls... although now that i have fixed OpenGL preview its a lot faster than SreeD :D

im just wondering if i should bother upgrading or not.  i will need to get 2 of the same card, which i certainly don't mind doing- cost isn't the issue- it's just that i have no time for games anymore and it would need to be worth it for poser.

Also- i have SLI turned off because one card is hooked to my projector.  does SLI affect poser performance in any way?

thanks!!


rocco_9 ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2008 at 1:25 AM

I have been reading this thread with interest, as my Poser Pro 7 crashes. I have Poser set to open with a blank document window and this crash occurs time after time when I start Poser. Obviously with a blank document window, the first thing I do is either load a new figure from the Library or import a previously saved scene.

If I load a saved scene into the blank document window, which seems to load okay and then as soon as I it opens, the Poser work space ghosts - whites - out and I get an error message.  (BTW, "Use external binary morph targets" is de-selected in General Preferences).

The same thing happens if I load David (or M3) into the empty document window - the main figures load fine, but as soon as I click on Figure then Conform - to conform say, the genitals to the figure -  the Poser workspace goes white and I get an error message.

The error message I get points to nvoglv32.dll as the fault. This file is part of the GeForce 175.16 driver I am using  for Vista 64. I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate 64 with SP1; AMD 64x2 6400+; 8GB memory and Nvidia 9600GT graphics card.

 This is driving me up the wall and down the other side!


StevieG1965 ( ) posted Sun, 29 June 2008 at 4:36 PM

Quote - With Vista, you can do a system evaluation, and my slowest componant that needs updating isn't my ati x1950 pro... it's my main processor.

Where is the system evaluation located?  I've look in the "Damn it to hell!  It should be here!" section of the computer and I can't find it, nor does it come up on any system search for me.  I'd love to run this on my system to see if I need to update or tweak anything.


MikeJ ( ) posted Sun, 29 June 2008 at 7:11 PM

Quote -

Where is the system evaluation located?  I've look in the "Damn it to hell!  It should be here!" section of the computer and I can't find it, nor does it come up on any system search for me.  I'd love to run this on my system to see if I need to update or tweak anything.

if you're talking about the ratings system in Vista, right click on My Computer. that will open a window which shows you basic information.
You should see a Windows Experience Index around the middle and if it says "Unrated", click on that and a new window will open with various options.
It doesn't allow you to change anything, just rates your PC's power and has some interesting information.
Assuming this is what you were looking for, that is.



MikeJ ( ) posted Sun, 29 June 2008 at 7:19 PM

For anyone having that OGL crash problem in Poser 7, try this.
"Prime" Poser first. Seriously, give it a try. Open Poser with a blank document, then rotate the camera a little for a second or two, then load a figure and you should be good to go.
Seriously, give it a try, it worked for me when I was having problems before the latest 64 bit nvidia drivers for Vista. Seems Poser needs a boost to get going or something, sometimes.
There's some sort of configuration file hack, too, but I can't remember what it was.



Silke ( ) posted Sun, 29 June 2008 at 7:25 PM

I've given up on OpenGL, it used to bug out too much, and after a while I was just not prepared to keep losing my work.

Silke


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