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Subject: Poser trueSpace users: Get your 'final' copys, MS is terminating the app


operaguy ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 2:59 AM · edited Sun, 22 December 2024 at 10:57 AM

http://caligari.com/

read the "Letter from the Founder"

Microsoft is ending the life of trueSpace. I guess "free" was too high a price.


shedofjoy ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 6:50 AM

thanks for the heads up, just downloaded.
havent used truespace since version5...

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 7:40 AM

I Don't see the letter on Calagari's site but I found an excerpt here:

http://www.vizworld.com/2009/05/truespace-caligari-close-the-doors/

Odd that's the only link a Google search turns up on web or news even if it's just been announced.

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Khai ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 7:52 AM

Attached Link: http://www.caligari.com/News/news_200905/LetterFromTheFounder.html

it's on the front page under the banner 'Letter from the Founder' but heres a direct link.


operaguy ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 8:37 AM

does trueSpace have soft-body collision detection and deformation?

 


carodan ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 9:17 AM

Sad. TS4.2 was my first ever 3d app. Never really got on with the last free version but then I didn't have time to dedicate to it. Sorry to see it disappear altogether though.

 

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markschum ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 12:38 PM · edited Thu, 21 May 2009 at 12:41 PM

Theres some hints that it may reappear as part of something else microsoft is working on .
As a stand-alone app though its gone .

It seems that several new sites have been created to keep the Truespace community going in the abscence of the caligari website.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 1:51 PM

I tried playing with it for a while after it became free. It crashed on me a lot, and I just couldn't get my head wrapped around the interface. I guess I'm too warped by Poser.


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wolf359 ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 2:48 PM

Not surprising
as it was an old outdated program.



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Khai ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 2:52 PM

Quote - Not surprising
as it was an old outdated program.

yay troll's arrived.

I'm outta here.


wolf359 ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 3:06 PM · edited Thu, 21 May 2009 at 3:06 PM

"yay troll's arrived.
I'm outta here. "

OK bye
just my opinion im very sorry you feel the need to flee the thread like some bitter ex-wife with a silly grudge
because of one opinion about One program in a market saturated with 3D programs at every level.
With the free carrara 6 and other free full programs
MS made a decision not to offer it anymore.... hey its typical MS.

applications come and go but there is usually something in the market thats a viable alternative these days.

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aeilkema ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 3:27 PM · edited Thu, 21 May 2009 at 3:33 PM

Quote - Not surprising
as it was an old outdated program.

It has been around for a long time, but it wasn't outdated at all. While it's not C4D, Maya or LW, it still does a good job, giving you quite some 3D power for a great price..... Once you get used to the interface you can do some amazing things with it. When I used it for game design, it gave me some excellent features needed in modern game design that still to this day both C4D and LW lack.

To say it's outdated clearly shows you haven't really used it.

Quote - ***"***With the free carrara 6 and other free full programs
MS made a decision not to offer it anymore.... hey its typical MS.

Talk about outdated...... even with all the stuff DAZ is adding (which isn't really helping Carrara along) the newest version compared to it's competition is hopelessly outdated.

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Dave-So ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 4:36 PM

TS has been steadily upgraded by Caligari, so I wouldn't call it outdated. More work on it than Carrara for sure. Carrara is basically the same as when it was called Ray Dream.

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bantha ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 4:54 PM · edited Thu, 21 May 2009 at 4:55 PM

Truespace surely isn't the easiest software package to learn, but I would not call it outdated. The last version has the disadvantage that it's a hybrid between the new and the old Truespace - which does not help learning it. 

A sad thing that Microsoft just bought it to slaughter it. 


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pakled ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 7:45 PM

you have to admit, no matter how hard it is to use (I had about 3 versions; from the ancient 'qbert' interface, to 6 or 7, I think...;) it's easier to figure out than Blender...;)

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pakled ( ) posted Thu, 21 May 2009 at 8:02 PM

btw - Free Carrara 6? Haven't gone into details, but a quick search shows the legal version isn't free, and the free versions aren't legal...;)

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Diogenes ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 1:25 AM

Bummer! I've been slowly trying to learn it. Well, mayhap it'll still come in handy from time to time.


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bantha ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 2:11 AM · edited Fri, 22 May 2009 at 2:13 AM

It's still working. Most probably there won't be updates, but the SDK was published IIRC, and the toolset is pretty complete. If you want a better package and dislike Blender, there is a price - and not a small one.


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Dave-So ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 6:26 AM

Carrara 6 Pro is being given away, with a legal serial, on several CG magazines.
It is also on a new book for Daz Studio, along with Hexagon 2.5 plus tons of other stuff, for under $20 at DAZ. The book is at Amazon as well.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 8:24 AM

***"yay troll's arrived.
I'm outta here"...............................

"To say it's outdated clearly shows you haven't really used it etc etc etc.
Talk about outdated...... even with all the stuff DAZ is adding (which isn't really helping .........etc etc etc ."***

Hmm Silly me I thought "Im outta here" actually meant leaving the thread.

Oh well as Operaguy  advised grab your copy of this is discontinued program so you can still use it if you wish ..life goes on.

Cheers

 



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pakled ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 6:16 PM

ah...I thought it might be one of those 'magazine fullpacks'. Actually had a chance to pick up one, but it always happens i don't have the money when it's offered...;) well...just thought there 'might be another way', as the keymaker says...;)

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MikeJ ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 7:17 PM · edited Fri, 22 May 2009 at 7:18 PM

Quote - Truespace surely isn't the easiest software package to learn, but I would not call it outdated. The last version has the disadvantage that it's a hybrid between the new and the old Truespace - which does not help learning it. 

A sad thing that Microsoft just bought it to slaughter it. 

Just a guess here, but by "outdated" I think he might have meant its ui and workflow.
Used to be there was no real "industry standard", but slowly over time industry standards have emerged in all programs, not just 3D.
If you know how to model in 3D... That is, if you know the tools in general, the common terms, the typical functions, the "standard" icons and labels, you should be able to easily make a transition from one app to another.
But for example, if you're modeling in Max, Maya, Lightwave, Modo, and so on and suddenly find yourself in Truespace, you're going to be lost and not be able to get much done until you learn the interface itself and then all the things integral to Truespace.
So in other words, a program that can't deliver that ease of transition to you is, more or less, outdated.

I don't think Microsoft bought it to slaughter it. I think Microsoft has something planned and wanted its code for something else.



Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Fri, 22 May 2009 at 8:39 PM

Attached Link: http://www.caligari.com/downloads.html

tS 7.61 is out the door.



Porthos ( ) posted Sat, 23 May 2009 at 3:28 PM

Quote - btw - Free Carrara 6? Haven't gone into details, but a quick search shows the legal version isn't free, and the free versions aren't legal...;)

I got Carrara Pro 6 free on the CD that came with DigitalArts issue 137. :)

http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/buy/backissues.cfm

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