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Subject: Has anyone gotten good results from photos in the Face Room?

WandW opened this issue on Feb 12, 2014 · 12 posts
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WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 10:59 AM · edited Wed, 04 September 2024 at 10:22 PM

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The Face Room came up in another thread.  My use of it is strictly as a means to dial-morph the Poser native figures, as I've had zero luck with creating faces from photos.  Since it was discussed, I was inspired to give it a try again.  Since this was an excercise,  I decided to create my own mug shots from a V4 character I had handy....

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WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 11:02 AM

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Since the Face Room is allegedly based on an old version of FaceGen, I plugged the mugshots into the FaceGen 3.5 demo.  It involved moving about 20 points corresponding to features around, and in less than ten minutes I had this head; some resemblance...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home

WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 11:08 AM · edited Wed, 12 February 2014 at 11:15 AM

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Finally, I spent about an hour and a half or so playing around in the Face Room.  Roxie ends up with no texture when the mug shots are added; it's hard to work with a black empty void there.  I moved to Sydney, and after about 8 attempts they converged to this; this one actually looked human in the Faceroom, but only in the Face Room... :glare: (BTW, this is Syd's texture, not the Faceroom generated one, which I don't think would improve it much.)

The question is, is there some trick I'm missing, or is it simply a useless tool?

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home

WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 11:13 AM

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Oh, if anyone wants to try it themselves, here's the front...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home

WandW ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 11:14 AM

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...and the side view. (this one needs to be flipped in the Face Room)..

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home

NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 12:14 PM

I use the faceroom often as a starting point to make face morphs for any supported figure. Then, once I have the face in a shape I ca use, I apply shape only. Sometimes I do further work either with the morphing tool outside the face room or in Blender.

The fextures generated by the faceroom itself are very low resolution and could be used for background figures but I have never really found a use for faceroom textures.

Using photos (or as you have done here, rendered images), I haven't had any success. I can never get the texture to line up properly, and the texture ends up looking weird because the lighting is not even. So, on the texture part of the faceroom I have pretty much given up.

 

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basicwiz ( ) posted Wed, 12 February 2014 at 1:40 PM

To answer the OP's original question: No.

MikeMoss ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 11:55 AM

I tried it a long time ago and had no luck at all.

I use photos but do in manually in Photoshop but cutting and stretching the photos on layers until they fit the template then work back and forth between Poser and Photoshop until everything fits correctly.

Mike

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 12:56 PM

I can go in and spin some dials and get a decent looking face, but I can't do it with a photo.



Teyon ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 1:24 PM

That's odd that the texture didn't appear on Roxie. You should think about reporting that with some repeatable steps. I'm fairly certain you should at least see a texture. It may not be good but something should be there.

WandW ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 2:19 PM

Quote - That's odd that the texture didn't appear on Roxie. You should think about reporting that with some repeatable steps. I'm fairly certain you should at least see a texture. It may not be good but something should be there.

Just load the front picture above in this thread in the Face Room and her face becomes a black void...

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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:

"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
“I could buy better software, but then I'd have to be an artist and what's the point of that?"
"The [R'osity Forum Search] 'Default' label should actually say 'Don't Find What I'm Looking For'".
bagginsbill's Free Stuff... https://web.archive.org/web/20201010171535/https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/Home

vilters ( ) posted Thu, 13 February 2014 at 6:31 PM

Confirmed and reported.

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