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Subject: Silo for $20. Is it worth it for poser users?


mamba-negra ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 7:45 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 3:36 PM

There is a macheist bundle featuring Silo for 19.99. I remember Silo was very popular for a while, but my ambitions as a modeler were a bit low, and I never picked it up. I believe that it's no longer being updated, but I wonder if it's worth paying $20 for. Does anyone still use it to create stuff to be used in Poser? Can you both model and create reasonable UV Maps within it without spending weeks to learn how to use it? 


ghostman ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 7:54 AM

Silo got an update last week. And I would say even if it weren't updated anymore it is well worth 20 buck.

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seachnasaigh ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 8:22 AM · edited Wed, 16 July 2014 at 8:26 AM

Yes! yep

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booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 10:46 AM

Yes! Definitely worth it. Modeling and UV mapping can be learned rather quickly. The modeling tools are great. Most everything you need can be found with just a right mouse click. UV mapping is pretty easy and the resulting maps come out pretty good.

I'd suggest you take some time and go through all the tutorials here

http://www.nevercenter.com/silo/?section=tutorials

Pay particular attention to anything by Glenn Southern.

It won't take you too long, and when you're done you'll have a very good understanding of Silo and it's tools.


hornet3d ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 10:47 AM

I am using Silo and have purchased and worked through a number of the tutotials here at Rendo by Fugazi1968 who uses Silo for most of them.  There is one tutorial in Prime, if you are a Prime member and, if not, the tutorials are on sale at the moment.

I found Silo easy to learn, at least the basics, and while I generally have little success learning, particularly by reading, I found the tutorials a great help as I was able to see what Silo looked like in the video and match it to my model in Silo itself.

Tutorials or not, if you want to start doing some modelling I would say it is a steal at $20.

 

 

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ThunderStone ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 11:33 AM

Where is it being offered for 20 bucks??? It's not a crack, is it?


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fictionalbookshelf ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 11:42 AM · edited Wed, 16 July 2014 at 11:43 AM

I absolutely love Silo. I use it all the time. It's well worth that amount. I have made props, plants and clothes for Genesis 1 & 2 figures in it. If you need a way to learn it, I would recommend checking out Fugazi1968's tutorials in his shop. The tutorials he has are done 90% in Silo.

There are also wonderful You Tube videos. It's quick and easy to learn and the interface is not that scary.

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mamba-negra ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 11:46 AM

Quote - Where is it being offered for 20 bucks??? It's not a crack, is it?

No, it's one of those bundles that you see everywhere these days. MacHeist is the one in particular, though, I think all of the programs have mac and PC options. I don't think I'm permitted to post a link, but you can just paste that name in followed by dot com...:)

I bought one of their bundles a few years ago to get Scrivener, which required me to actually register with the vender to receive the serial number. So, unless something has changed, the software in the bundle is legitimate. As is usually the case, it's the only program in the bundle that has any value to me (though, there is another 3D tool that might be useful, but I've never heard of it). 


fictionalbookshelf ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:00 PM

Technically offsite linking is allowed if they are asking for something. For example, if I went in and said.. hey guys I'm looking for this hair (picture). Then its ok for people to post offsite links.

In this situation I think it would be okay to post a link since Silo plays an important role to this 3D community.

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wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:02 PM

Just wanted to add another: yes it is  a great value!!!



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bantha ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:04 PM

Silo is absolutely worth it. Get it.


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mamba-negra ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:15 PM

Quote - Technically offsite linking is allowed if they are asking for something. For example, if I went in and said.. hey guys I'm looking for this hair (picture). Then its ok for people to post offsite links.

In this situation I think it would be okay to post a link since Silo plays an important role to this 3D community.

 

OK. Here is the link, in case anyone else is interested in checking it out. MacHeist deals are generally mac based, so if you are a PC user, you would definitely want to doublecheck that the bundle does include licenses for the PC versions. 


fictionalbookshelf ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:32 PM

Quote - > Quote - Technically offsite linking is allowed if they are asking for something. For example, if I went in and said.. hey guys I'm looking for this hair (picture). Then its ok for people to post offsite links.

In this situation I think it would be okay to post a link since Silo plays an important role to this 3D community.

 

OK. Here is the link, in case anyone else is interested in checking it out. MacHeist deals are generally mac based, so if you are a PC user, you would definitely want to doublecheck that the bundle does include licenses for the PC versions. 

lol, I don't see it

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mamba-negra ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 1:33 PM

Doh! I do that all the time. 

 

Oh, here is that file you asked for (and sending nothing). 

 

http://www.macheist.com/

Here it is...


MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 2:59 PM

here's the 159 dollar version, lol.  www.nevercenter.com/silo



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bantha ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 3:42 PM

,,, and here it is clickable.....

http://www.macheist.com/


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FVerbaas ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2014 at 4:56 PM · edited Wed, 16 July 2014 at 4:56 PM
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Quote - MacHeist deals are generally mac based, so if you are a PC user, you would definitely want to doublecheck that the bundle does include licenses for the PC versions. 

The page says:

'And, just in case you’re having trouble keeping your creative drive confined to one computer, we’re including not only the Mac version, but also the Windows and Linux versions.'

Sounds worth a try.

 


Faery_Light ( ) posted Fri, 18 July 2014 at 12:59 AM
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I'd love to have Silo but I don't even have the $20.00 right now...sigh.


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obm890 ( ) posted Fri, 18 July 2014 at 2:23 AM

Quote - I'd love to have Silo but I don't even have the $20.00 right now...sigh.

Download a copy of Wings3D, it's a very well designed bit of software, and it's free.



Faery_Light ( ) posted Fri, 18 July 2014 at 12:35 PM
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I have it but when I had a demo of silo it was easier for me to learn. :)

And of course, Blender, the newer one looks much easier to learn.


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Netherworks ( ) posted Fri, 18 July 2014 at 1:04 PM

Just in case any Windows users are having issues with this, I ran into this problem:

I purchased the bundle and once I got the registration I went to http://nevercenter.com/silo/ and downloaded the version for Windows.

When I installed, it cried about settings missing in My Documents and the whole interface was dark (it should be medium-grey) and no widgets anywhere.

If this happens, close Silo.

Go to where you installed it and there will be a .zip, SDCopy.zip.

Go to your Users Directory: C:UsersYOURUSERNAMEDocuments and make a new folder called Silo Data.

Unzip SDCopy.zip to that folder.

Restart Silo. All should be good.

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ThunderStone ( ) posted Sat, 19 July 2014 at 11:37 AM

Thanks for the tip. Got Silo and installed it. It works!


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Nyghtfall ( ) posted Sat, 19 July 2014 at 1:15 PM

Which version of Silo is it?


MarianneR ( ) posted Sat, 19 July 2014 at 1:41 PM

In the Windows version the "About" box says it's 2.3 Professional. I went to the Nevercenter site to download it.


ThunderStone ( ) posted Sat, 19 July 2014 at 3:30 PM

Quote - Which version of Silo is it?

2.3


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OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Poser: Poser 11.3 ...... Units: inches or meters depends on mood
Bryce: Bryce Pro 7.1.074
Image Editing: Corel Paintshop Pro
Renderer: Superfly, Firefly

9/11/2001: Never forget...

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Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday

 


Nyghtfall ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 1:46 AM · edited Sun, 20 July 2014 at 1:48 AM

I generally avoid taking advantage of any kind of deal like this without doing plenty of research, and found a review on cgchannel

I followed that to the Silo forum on CGTalk.  According to a few threads there, this is the first update for Silo in over 3 years.  The original developers abandoned the program some time ago.  And the Windows version is 32-bit only.

I'm gonna save my $20 and continue learning how to use Blender.


WandW ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 10:46 AM

I picked it up.  Thanx for this pointer.  😄

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Meshbox ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 1:13 PM

Attached Link: Silo to Shade 3D Pro Competitive Upgrade

Mirye Software is offering a competitive upgrade from Silo to [Shade 3D Pro](http://mirye.net/shade-3d "Shade 3D") (usually $499) for only $199.

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Netherworks ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 1:36 PM

Love to try out Shade (before making any decision) but the trial download link for Windows is broken (Mac link works).

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WandW ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 10:15 PM

Quote - Love to try out Shade (before making any decision) but the trial download link for Windows is broken (Mac link works).

This one worked fo rme yesterday...

http://downloads.nevercenter.com.s3.amazonaws.com/Install_Silo_2_3_win.zip

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Netherworks ( ) posted Sun, 20 July 2014 at 11:22 PM

Oh, I have the silo installed.  I mean the demo/trial of Shade.

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AmbientShade ( ) posted Tue, 22 July 2014 at 10:24 AM

I spent the 20 bucks and got silo, mainly because it's modeling tools seem to function a lot like topogun, which I like. The ability to draw your topology on the model with a pen is just great, and hopefully wont be as buggy as topogun can be. 

 

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maxxxmodelz ( ) posted Tue, 22 July 2014 at 6:22 PM

Quote - I spent the 20 bucks and got silo, mainly because it's modeling tools seem to function a lot like topogun, which I like. The ability to draw your topology on the model with a pen is just great, and hopefully wont be as buggy as topogun can be. 

 

~Shane

Reminds me of this funny video.  Silo users seem to have mixed feelings about stability though.  Not so much here on Rosity, but from what I've seen in other forums.  The new Linux release should help with stability issues when dealing with higher poly models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9nKqOZjPjk


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tiggersprings ( ) posted Fri, 25 July 2014 at 7:35 AM

Quote - > Quote - Love to try out Shade (before making any decision) but the trial download link for Windows is broken (Mac link works).

This one worked fo rme yesterday...

http://downloads.nevercenter.com.s3.amazonaws.com/Install_Silo_2_3_win.zip

I downloaded from the same link yesterday.  Did you experience any PC oddness after installing? Windows 7 Pro started prompting me to back up my file encryption certificate and key.  I had some internet connectivty problems, and then storms rollled in so I decided to shut down for bed.  After restarting the computer this morning, and letting Silo run for a while, I haven't seen that message again.  Now, i'm really concerned though. I e-mailed a friend that's a bit more tech-saavy than myself, but I thought I'd ask you if you had experienced anything odd...

The only other significant download I completed yesterday was SR 3.1 for Poser Pro 2014, but I hadn't installed it (wanted to read the documentation). 

Really hoping I haven't got a major issue going on... sigh


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